To think visiting the US is justifiable in these circumstances?

I didn’t know this was even a thing 🤣 I’m going to Cape Cod this summer to stay with one of my oldest friends who lives there.

I’ve never given a fuck about what anyone else thinks of me so it wouldn’t cross my mind to consider what anyone else thinks of my holiday choices.

I won’t be holidaying there while the tangerine felon is in office, but I would visit in your circumstances. At 93 your FIL can’t afford to wait 4 years to see his son.

I wonder whether companies will start giving travellers to the US burner phones like they do for China after recent events. We are living in very strange times.

No one in my social circle would give a crap

I wouldn't holiday in US right now but yes, I would go to US and visit family.

How can your friends possibly think they hold the moral high ground when they would deny a very elderly man the chance to see his son for perhaps the last time?

Virtue signalling bullshit.

They'd almost certainly visit the dying father if it was themselves, Userlosername, but it isn't so they're quite safe dumping their virtue signalling on someone else

Had to smile at the idea of getting rid of iphones if they're made under another filthy regime though ... as if

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/19/germany-tightens-travel-advice-to-us-after-three-citizens-detained

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Travel/wireStory/detentions-european-tourists-us-borders-spark-fears-traveling-120011457

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-academic-denied-entry-united-states-donald-trump-personal-opinion-messages/

https://apnews.com/article/border-tourists-german-canadian-detention-immigration-408cd27338e8065268fabc835f8b0c34

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80y3yx1jdyo.amp

So yeah make sure your ESTA is in order and do the right thing or it can go very wrong for you.

I know many many many people who have had torrid times crossing the border when everything is in check (hours of being questioned etc).

Please don’t be ignorant. The US isn’t the same place it used to be.

Thanks for the stats but that still doesn’t refer to people who wouldn’t have gone anyway. Which was my point. The people who aren’t going (which the stats are showing) are people who would have gone otherwise, or they may not be going for many, many, many other reasons. But no stats that you find on google will show how many of the people vocally exclaiming that they’re not going to the States WOULD have actually booked a trip in different circumstances.

It's one thing to refuse to visit the US as a expression of opposition to Trump (I'm of the same mind myself), quite another to let him deprive your family of meeting up with an elderly relative. Doesn't sound like you'll be spending wildly and contributing much to their economy, so that's a plus.

Your friends are being unreasonable.

A simple google would help you..
Right now it’s about 5% but most don’t travel at this time of the year - but this amounts to 64 billion so not insignificant

www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/16/international-tourism-travel-trump-canada/

Also for those questioning the easy border crossings be aware…

abcnews.go.com/amp/Travel/wireStory/detentions-european-tourists-us-borders-spark-fears-traveling-120011457

Absolutely. The fact that her friends would apparently not visit their dying father to make a stupid political point that no one will notice is extraordinary

Both my and my DH's parents are now in their early 80s and still live in America. Every moment we're able to spend with them is precious. We lost a few years during COVID travel restrictions so there's no way I'm missing my annual visit, no matter who is running the show.

What “innocent people” have been detained? Do you mean the British woman who was working illegally?

Of course you can. You can make an exception for the trip and maintain a boycott at all other times. A boycott is an active choice. Why are you quilting someone for visiting an elderly man?

If any of them have an I phone I hope they are going to get rid of it as it was probably made in China.

@pourmeawine I agree, I do have family in America and will visit them next year. If demand for seats falls then maybe the fares will drop. Every cloud.

As others have said @AnnaQuayInTheUk make sure your socials and phones are clear of anti Trump etc content or you could be refused entry.

I honestly think a lot of people have nothing else to worry about in life. It’s madness.

I meant people from Europe to be honest.

Yes I'd go in your circumstances but I'd make sure all your phones and tablets were clean of any anti-Trump posts as we know people are being detained for this.

I am not going on a long planned holiday to meet up with friends while all this crap is going on.

Honestly I don’t see why they would even consider it being an issue, especially in your circumstances.

I’ve got holidays booked to the US this year, I’m still going. I enjoy the places and people in general, love the cities and things to do - that doesn’t change for me depending who is in the White House.

Your friends are insane.

Stop letting yourself be influenced by their virtue signalling crap

Here’s a stat from the Independent…

Canadians, the most common international visitors to the U.S., have stopped coming to the country. in droves. Last month, visits by car from Canada to the U.S. plummeted by 23 percent compared to February 2024, Statistics Canada data shows. Similarly, U.S. car trips to Canada decreased by 7.9 percent from the year prior.

Flight Centre Canada spokesperson Amra Durakovic said interest in U.S. travel began to wane in November. That trend saw explosive growth in February, with leisure travel bookings to the U.S. plunging 40 per cent year over year.6 Mar 2025

https://globalnews.ca

Yeah people are cancelling. Bear in mind lots of people live extremely close to the border and go back and forth for work so it won’t stop totally.

I know many many many Canadians who will NOT travel to the US right now.

So while a reasonable question I have infer if you ask this to make a point that people are just virtue signaling when clearly they aren’t.

Good. What’s going on somewhere else in the world or what your friends think isn’t your problem.

Oh we will definitely go. I was just taken aback at the strength of feeling about not visiting the US

IME it's mostly virtue signalling, OP; if someone offered them an all expenses paid trip there I can almost guarantee they'd be off like a shot

It's not as if Trump's going to stomp up their drive, and believe it or not most Americans are just getting on with their lives as they always have - though never try telling that to the shroud wavers