Feel this country has become rotten - benefits

All the kids getting diagnoses with ND issues tend to find their parents have it too.
More ND adults meeting and having kids means more kids are ND.

Just on the PIP question. I've got bipolar and EUPD. I work part time, and have had to change roles to a lower paid, part time, position because of my diagnosis and the affects of my medication.
I use my PIP to fund therapy as the NHS lists are long and invariably only offer CBT.
Under the new proposals I won't be eligible for PIP at all, so I won't be able to fund my therapy, (I pay full rent and council tax, can't afford therapy without PIP)
My diagnosis won't change but my eligibility will. And I won't be able to go for the higher paid roles in my company because it's shift work with heavy machinery which occupational health won't sign off on while I'm on my bipolar meds.

Why don’t you educate yourself and read about how difficult it is for parents to get EHCPs for children? Most councils will say they won’t assess a child unless they are 3 years ‘behind’

We’ve had 14 years of a government who cut, cut cut resources from schools, leaving teachers demoralised which caused many of the best to leave the profession. Class sizes have gone up and resources have gone down.

i don’t think it’s at all surprising that more young people are leaving school ill equipped for work and mentally unwell under these circumstances.

I don’t know what you mean by ‘mildly disabled’ and tbh it doesn’t sound like you do either.

Why are there so many people claiming? Are more parents carrying a disability gene. Are parents not looking after a mildly disabled child properly and providing provisions for a mildly disabled child when they reach adulthood. Personal responsibility. Yes harsh but true.

The severely disabled needing full time care should be looked after.

Well nobody gets PIP for something minor. They just don’t. I don’t know anyone who didn’t have to go to tribunal to get PIP except my severely disabled dd who has 2:1 care 24/7 and a very detailed care plan.

Thank you. The lady with MS I mentioned does work. She has a WFH role but has to go into the office every so often for whatever reason.
She can not lift her arms above her head, so goes to the hairdressers every week to get her hair washed. Being able to wash your own hair is something many people take for granted. Wait until you can't do it. Maybe then, you might accept that my friend spends her PIP on such a basic thing.
Not aimed at you Lyannaa

All disabilities have a sliding scale. MH, mild depression is very different to schizophrenia

Tbh it's Government selling off all sorts of assets. Eg Gas, gold and housing

No one said about feeling anxious and depressed.
Why do people keep banging on about anxiety and depression?
I am unable to work due to a few complex issues including anxiety and depression and they are the absolute least of my worries.

Which ‘relatively minor’ disabilities are you talking about?

Nobody is immune to disability or illness. Including people who see themselves as superior because they don’t currently claim anything. I think it is now 1 in 2 people who get cancer?

The reason people feel aggrieved is because they’ve seen their own standard of living slip and they are looking for a scapegoat.

No matter how many times those of us with direct experience of disability benefits try to explain that you have to provide a lot of evidence to get these benefits, there are people determined to double down with the incorrect notion that loads of people are pretending to be disabled.

It’s wild to me that someone is actually trying to argue that a woman with MS shouldn’t be allowed to get her hair done and should be working when they know f* all about her life. MS is a very difficult condition to live with. And it also causes pain.

And by all accounts, feeling anxious, worried and depressed can be added to that list of things we should all feel humble and understanding about too 🙄.

Fuck it, let’s all just throw in the can. Why fucking bother.

Just addressing the initial replies to your post OP, I agree and it's so frustrating that people can't see it.

People are literally telling you left right and centre that yes, working so hard and still not being able to manage what has long been considered a "normal" life, house, family etc, is hugely detrimental to wellbeing and motivation.

And yet posters refuse to see that and insist that's not the problem and therefore, adding the incentive of an actually affordable life will not help.

You are just wrong.

Those taxpayers need to stay humble and remember they are a stroke/accident/breakdown away from needing benefits themselves.

I think tax payers are allowed to feel aggrieved at what is a broken benefits system, no ifs, and no buts. And they are certainly allowed an opinion.

The larger the disability net grows, the higher the benefits bill. We have reached a point were relatively minor disabilities are included.

It seems that the non claimants will be one the minority soon. Where will it stop.

Yes this lady is early 60s and her MS is sadly rather progressed now.

Quite. Some people with MS use a wheelchair and can’t walk at all whilst for others it’s a hidden disability.

She uses a wheelchair at home and a scooter out in public. She can not walk at all.
Buses are all well and good if there is space for your scooter, otherwise you are left at the bus stop hoping the next bus has space for you.
She gets higher rate PIP and swaps it for a car. She is entitled to do that.
People using their wages are not using it to get their hair washed because they are not so disabled that they can't do it themselves. She goes to the hair dressers to get her hair washed.

PIP isn’t means tested and has nothing to do with work.

It will be possible for some, and not for others. No two people with MS are the same!

Working isn’t just about making money, but brings routine, stability and self respect. I could have easily sat at home on benefits as a single mum, and for years I probably didn’t make a huge amount more. But I stuck with it, worked hard and got promoted a few times, my kids grew up. I now earn decent money and love my job. It’s part of who I am, I can’t imagine how i’d ever feel fulfilled sitting at home all day. I also have a disability so understand how hard it can be keeping hold of your job.

I really don’t think that people who have no day to day experience of a disability should be saying what should happen and talk over people who do understand what it’s like with comments like ‘no ifs or buts’.

I worked with someone who had MS and they used the train. Is that not possible?

Plenty of people pay for hairdressing out of their regular wage.

OK, I have a friend who has MS. She relies on PIP to to go to work and for her self care. She uses her PIP to go to the hair dressers and get her hair washed. She can not do it herself. She uses her PIP to have a car on the motibilty scheme so she can go to work.
If you make it so that PIP is for people not in work then she will not be able to work. How does that make sense?