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Is there cultural differences between the 4 countries of the UK?

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Lynsey953 · 20/03/2025 20:59

I often see a lot on the news about British Culture and UK culture but I know that Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales as well as higher taxes paid to the government and a lot of "free" things paid for by these taxes i.e. free prescriptions, free university tuition etc ... A lot of people in Scotland also identify as Scottish, not British. Do you think this means Scottish people have a different cultural identity than English or Welsh people?

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glittercunt · 21/03/2025 00:20

Cofiwch Dryweryn. Enough said.

And yes. Ditto Cornwall and Isle of Man, too.

Separate cultures to English culture.

Yellowhammer09 · 21/03/2025 00:16

I think of myself as British, but I suppose I'm English. I moved from London to East Anglia a few years ago and it's a very different culture. I love it.

Contrary to PPs, I'm proud of our long, rich & varied history. A seafaring nation that really did rule the waves!

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/03/2025 00:13

I'm from NI, there are very distinct cultural differences in this tiny region alone. Nevermind the rest of the UK.😂

BeastAngelMadwoman · 21/03/2025 00:13

latetothefisting · 20/03/2025 21:15

I'm surprised you've put Scotland vs Eng & Wales, I would think Wales and Scotland (and to some extent NI but due to its specific history that has its own very distinct culture that is separate again to any of the other 3) have more in common than either of the others and England - Wales also has things like free prescriptions, most people I know would identify as Welsh over British if given the choice, we also have our own parliament and representatives rather than 'just' Westminster, etc.

Even in terms of the education system, while E&W have the same system of GCSEs/A levels etc, Wales is more similar to Scotland in that there are no grammar schools (and far fewer private schools) which I think is much more relevant/impactful in terms of social class/diversity and therefore overall 'culture' than starting/finishing school a few months later and having slightly different exams

Wales is also different in that Welsh is compulsory, and there are lots of welsh medium/joint language schools, whereas Scots Gaelic may be taught in some schools but afaik isn't compulsory - a different language (even if not all of the population is fluent) has a huge effect on culture.

No read the full thread but just to say, Wales has different GCSEs to England too- we've not gone over to 1-9s.

ChessorBuckaroo · 21/03/2025 00:07

IVFmumoftwo · 20/03/2025 23:33

Google the Ulster plantation by James VI. Often conveniently forgotten by the Scots. Plus it was the British government that made many of these actions so not just the English. I don't deny they happened but it is not just the English that should the blame. Mainly the aristocrats across the British Isles. For example the Highland clearances were often caused by Scottish landlords.

I will concede English did a lot but let's not blame ourselves totally. It seems a convenient rewriting of history at the moment.

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Im Irish in Northern Ireland and I concur.

When people say "the English" (or "the Scots") did such and such, that's unfair as its specifically the minority who make up the elites as you say, not everyday folk.

A regular English person has nothing to do with actions of an aristocrat or a colonial governor.

When I comment on the white settler entity that is america with its ethnic cleansing of the Natives and enslavement of Africans, I'm referring to the elites who carried it out, ie. the planter class (racist, genocidal slave owning tyrants like george washington and thomas jefferson), not everyday folk.

In regard to OP's question, there are minor differences among the nations of the two islands but there is far more common than not. In Northern Ireland we are a hybrid of Irish and British culture (although even the Republic of Ireland its a hybrid of the two as its a shared culture in the two islands). I was at uni in Liverpool and I might as well have been in Belfast or Dublin.

Think the one big difference can be seen during Prime Ministers Questions as the commons goes eerily quiet whenever a Northern Ireland politician gets up to speak (as opposed to the usual noise with barbs being thrown around) as the other MPs have no idea what they are on about. Politics in Northern Ireland is very tribal/backward (orange vs green) which regular politicians cannot relate to.

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mathanxiety · 20/03/2025 23:54

IVFmumoftwo · 20/03/2025 23:33

Google the Ulster plantation by James VI. Often conveniently forgotten by the Scots. Plus it was the British government that made many of these actions so not just the English. I don't deny they happened but it is not just the English that should the blame. Mainly the aristocrats across the British Isles. For example the Highland clearances were often caused by Scottish landlords.

I will concede English did a lot but let's not blame ourselves totally. It seems a convenient rewriting of history at the moment.

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While nominally "British", the House of Parliament and House of Lords were overwhelmingly composed of members from England during the 18th, and 19th centuries. And no, obviously before universal suffrage those bodies weren't made up of a representstive sample of English people, and therefore "not all English", but to say it was "British" is disingenuous.

mathanxiety · 20/03/2025 23:50

YABU to omit Northern Ireland from your OP.

Genevieva · 20/03/2025 23:42

The best way I’ve heard it described is that the United Kingdom is a premodern state. The Act of Union came about a century after the union of the crowns under King James I and preserved all of the Scottish institutions except 2: the royal mint (no longer needed as a shared currency was agreed and brought enormous economic opportunity) and Parliament (which was absorbed into Westminster until Tony Blair started devolution). This is largely because Scotland requested the union, so it came about as an act of collaboration. By contrast, most modern states have come about because of conquest or revolution.

I have a Scottish parent and an English parent, so I grew up with both sets of grandparents. The cultural differences were subtle and I’d say that Glaswegians traditionally had more in common with Liverpudlians, as big industrial port cities, than with folk from Edinburgh.

PrimitivePerson · 20/03/2025 23:36

The Scots were also hugely involved in plundering the British Empire, and the Act of Union was brought about because of a Scottish attempt at colonialism that went badly wrong.

Tallerandtall · 20/03/2025 23:35

@Lynsey953 yes three of them didn’t fall for the lies of or support the Farage.

IVFmumoftwo · 20/03/2025 23:33

Middleagedstriker · 20/03/2025 23:28

It's not ridiculous it's quite true. We English have a history of treating our neighbours badly. Ad the dominant nation we suppressed the Welsh And a Celtic languages almost to extinction at one point. We contributed hugely to the death of a million Irish people during the potato famine, stole northern Ireland and #ubject Irish to centuries of abuse.

Google the Ulster plantation by James VI. Often conveniently forgotten by the Scots. Plus it was the British government that made many of these actions so not just the English. I don't deny they happened but it is not just the English that should the blame. Mainly the aristocrats across the British Isles. For example the Highland clearances were often caused by Scottish landlords.

I will concede English did a lot but let's not blame ourselves totally. It seems a convenient rewriting of history at the moment.

PrimitivePerson · 20/03/2025 23:33

The cultural differences between the Scottish and the English are nowhere near as big as some people (mainly Scottish nationalists) like to make out that they are.

Mistyglade · 20/03/2025 23:30

MasterBeth · 20/03/2025 22:17

It seems strange to me that you would consider four neighbouring countries that have been tied together in a political union for hundreds of years "very different."

Cuba. Morocco. Laos. The Netherlands. That feels more like four countries with very different cultures.

Exactly.

Middleagedstriker · 20/03/2025 23:28

BatchCookBabe · 20/03/2025 21:10

Speak for yourself. I am English and proud of it. Just like the Welsh, Scottish, and Irish are proud of what they are. I am not ashamed of anything.

What a ridiculous comment from you!

It's not ridiculous it's quite true. We English have a history of treating our neighbours badly. Ad the dominant nation we suppressed the Welsh And a Celtic languages almost to extinction at one point. We contributed hugely to the death of a million Irish people during the potato famine, stole northern Ireland and #ubject Irish to centuries of abuse.

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Catsandcheese · 20/03/2025 23:24

My village outside Glasgow has a cricket club, I don't recognise your gravestones, but then I am Catholic not Presbyterian and I speak English not Gaelic or Scots, though obviously I can understand Scots. I would say Glasgow is entrenched in football, while rugby is important elsewhere, but I know a fair few who play curling.
I totally agree the water is much better 😀

IVFmumoftwo · 20/03/2025 23:23

SpottedDonkey · 20/03/2025 23:19

I always think there are 5 distinct nations in the UK : Scotland, England, NI, Wales & London.

As someone who grew up in the north of England, has also lived in Scotland then moved to London, I found that northern England, Scotland & Wales all have more in common with each other than they do with London, which really does exist within its own bubble.

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Depends on what part of London as well.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 20/03/2025 23:23

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Odras · 20/03/2025 23:22

I’m Irish but I have lived in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland. They have shared things but are also still different. Scotland and the Republic of Ireland feel the most similar. Northern Ireland has a unique flavour and England was different again.

IVFmumoftwo · 20/03/2025 23:22

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Class doesn't factor at all in my life or for many other English. You still get the aristocrats, lairds etc in Scotland. Maybe not so much in Wales. You seem to be stereotyping English as snobby types. I bet some English are much more friendly than Welsh to be honest.

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SpottedDonkey · 20/03/2025 23:19

I always think there are 5 distinct nations in the UK : Scotland, England, NI, Wales & London.

As someone who grew up in the north of England, has also lived in Scotland then moved to London, I found that northern England, Scotland & Wales all have more in common with each other than they do with London, which really does exist within its own bubble.

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LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 20/03/2025 23:19

Yes of course. I think that it’s probably even more specific than that; I’m a Londoner and definitely feel that my culture and identity as a Londoner is quite different to that of someone from- for example- Cornwall or the Midlands, despite us all being English.

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