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Is there cultural differences between the 4 countries of the UK?

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Lynsey953 · 20/03/2025 20:59

I often see a lot on the news about British Culture and UK culture but I know that Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales as well as higher taxes paid to the government and a lot of "free" things paid for by these taxes i.e. free prescriptions, free university tuition etc ... A lot of people in Scotland also identify as Scottish, not British. Do you think this means Scottish people have a different cultural identity than English or Welsh people?

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Serpentstooth · 14/05/2025 18:49

Scotland, Wales and Ireland have all been fought over, and oppressed by, the English. So yes, many differences, and we English have finally learned it's more expedient to shut up about it these days. If you listen to Prime Ministers Question Time, the barely suppressed contempt for Scotland and Wales can come as a surprise if you're unaware of the history. Northern Ireland is currently being treated carefully due to its unique EU situation.

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 14:57

Hortus · 14/05/2025 10:16

I'm in Wales, have lived here since I was 1 year old, and when I talk to my grandchild about school I certainly don't ask what areas of learning and experience she's studied that day, I talk about subjects and she knows perfectly well what I mean.
Of course there are more similarities than differences in the education systems, it's certainly much more similar to the English system then the education system in Scotland is.
I don't know why the Welsh government keeps changing things given that Wales consistently has the worst educational outcomes in the UK. They'd do better to do the same as the English system.
But in my opinion the Senedd mainly does things differently to make a point that it can, not because the outcome is actually better for Welsh people.
It's yet another demonstration of the huge chip on the shoulder that so many Welsh people have about England. We would do better as a nation to stop banging on about oppression that took place hundreds of years ago and move forward. It's utterly pathetic to me that, for example, in any multi country sporting competition like the world cup, euros etc, so many Welsh people are open about their support for any other country playing England, even if England is the only home nation left in the tournament.
I've had discussions with people about why they're so openly anti English and they drone on about princes and battles and oppression a thousand years ago. It's laughable, how many English people do you hear regularly talking about hating the French because of William the conqueror? It's the same thing but so many Welsh people make it their be all and end all.
This type of sentiment exists even amongst educated Welsh people which I find even more ridiculous.

Oh, dear. The English education system is an extremely awful way to teach and no, ours is absolutely nothing like it. Thank goodness.

Seymour5 · 14/05/2025 12:08

sparrowflewdown · 14/05/2025 10:46

I agree. It's when they live in England and you can tell they hate us! Grin I love the Welsh and the Scots!

No we don't hate the English! Or not all of us. As I said earlier most of us are hybrid anyway. DH is English, and we live in England. He had a hard time as a kid though (long time ago) moving to Scotland with his southern accent.

Reonie · 14/05/2025 10:49

I think that there are some cultural differences that kind of get reinforced by a form of negativity - but there are within England, too. And within the other countries. I'm Scottish, and there's a cultural difference between Highland and Lowland Scots.

Sometimes I think part of it is what you can sell to tourists, that the population then takes up as part of its identity. Whereas the real identity is in the trades that people did/do, the opportunities they took. That's kind of what lasts and makes us proud of past generations. As a Scottish person I'm not really interested in kilts and clans, they are just Victorian stories. I am interested in how people shaped and worked the land and why they emigrated.

sparrowflewdown · 14/05/2025 10:46

KimberleyClark · 14/05/2025 10:29

it’s not just the Welsh in this regard is it? It’s Scotland too.

I agree. It's when they live in England and you can tell they hate us! Grin I love the Welsh and the Scots!

CantHoldMeDown · 14/05/2025 10:45

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Reonie · 14/05/2025 10:44

Sminty2 · 20/03/2025 21:07

I feel, that the Scots, Welsh and Irish are proud of their history and culture. The English seem ashamed of theirs; the empire, etc. Could be wrong but my Gaelic relatives are proud of their heritage.

I'm Scottish, and well aware of the Scots' involvement in Empire. We do not come out of it with anything much to be proud of!

373849595d · 14/05/2025 10:42

Yes, without the smallest doubt. I've lived in England and Scotland (as well as abroad) and I would say the cultural differences between England and Scotland are about as substantial as between either country and the other nation I've lived in.

You can see it in the way people vote (Scotland consistently votes for more left wing parties than England), the way Scotland polls on issues like immigration and environmental policies, the art and cultural events produced in each country, etc.

I have no doubt it's the same for Wales and Northern Ireland.

Toootss · 14/05/2025 10:38

I would like to see a union of NW Europe- Norway, Uk, Denmark, Sweden, Finland.Probably not Ireland due to past differences but we would need to get the UK financially viable first .

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Toootss · 14/05/2025 10:35

im Scottish from the south of Scotland. I would say I have more of an affinity with Cumbrians than western islanders or Glaswegian. I would see us as a group of regions rather than separate country.
Perhaps the Cornish have a greater affinity with Orcadians. Etcetc

KimberleyClark · 14/05/2025 10:29

Hortus · 14/05/2025 10:16

I'm in Wales, have lived here since I was 1 year old, and when I talk to my grandchild about school I certainly don't ask what areas of learning and experience she's studied that day, I talk about subjects and she knows perfectly well what I mean.
Of course there are more similarities than differences in the education systems, it's certainly much more similar to the English system then the education system in Scotland is.
I don't know why the Welsh government keeps changing things given that Wales consistently has the worst educational outcomes in the UK. They'd do better to do the same as the English system.
But in my opinion the Senedd mainly does things differently to make a point that it can, not because the outcome is actually better for Welsh people.
It's yet another demonstration of the huge chip on the shoulder that so many Welsh people have about England. We would do better as a nation to stop banging on about oppression that took place hundreds of years ago and move forward. It's utterly pathetic to me that, for example, in any multi country sporting competition like the world cup, euros etc, so many Welsh people are open about their support for any other country playing England, even if England is the only home nation left in the tournament.
I've had discussions with people about why they're so openly anti English and they drone on about princes and battles and oppression a thousand years ago. It's laughable, how many English people do you hear regularly talking about hating the French because of William the conqueror? It's the same thing but so many Welsh people make it their be all and end all.
This type of sentiment exists even amongst educated Welsh people which I find even more ridiculous.

it’s not just the Welsh in this regard is it? It’s Scotland too.

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Hortus · 14/05/2025 10:16

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 08:00

There are six Areas of Learning and Experience.

I'm in Wales, have lived here since I was 1 year old, and when I talk to my grandchild about school I certainly don't ask what areas of learning and experience she's studied that day, I talk about subjects and she knows perfectly well what I mean.
Of course there are more similarities than differences in the education systems, it's certainly much more similar to the English system then the education system in Scotland is.
I don't know why the Welsh government keeps changing things given that Wales consistently has the worst educational outcomes in the UK. They'd do better to do the same as the English system.
But in my opinion the Senedd mainly does things differently to make a point that it can, not because the outcome is actually better for Welsh people.
It's yet another demonstration of the huge chip on the shoulder that so many Welsh people have about England. We would do better as a nation to stop banging on about oppression that took place hundreds of years ago and move forward. It's utterly pathetic to me that, for example, in any multi country sporting competition like the world cup, euros etc, so many Welsh people are open about their support for any other country playing England, even if England is the only home nation left in the tournament.
I've had discussions with people about why they're so openly anti English and they drone on about princes and battles and oppression a thousand years ago. It's laughable, how many English people do you hear regularly talking about hating the French because of William the conqueror? It's the same thing but so many Welsh people make it their be all and end all.
This type of sentiment exists even amongst educated Welsh people which I find even more ridiculous.

KimberleyClark · 14/05/2025 08:47

SquashedSquid · 13/05/2025 22:20

Oh my gosh. There's so much wrong with this comment, I can't be bothered to even start 😂 Just no.

Yes for a start Wales has its own exam and curriculum setting body, the Welsh Joint Education Committee (WJEC).

ThatAgileCoralBird · 14/05/2025 08:38

I thought we were all Europeans until Brexit took that away!

The agenda of a unique Scottish identity in every way has been pushed by the independent movement in Scotland and is in contrast to what is happening in the rest of mainland Europe who are generally very negative of a nationalist movement with its historical connotations to fascism.

I feel my Scottishness has in no way been repressed or controlled by being part of Great Britain.
In many ways I am thankful (recent Supreme Court ruling).

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 08:00

Angrymum22 · 14/05/2025 04:05

What do you teach then?

There are six Areas of Learning and Experience.

ThatAgileCoralBird · 14/05/2025 07:02

There is cultural difference across Scotland though: dialect, foods, music etc.
when I was at uni in central belt ceilidh were so popular amongst the students;
where grew up and live now, it’s only pensioners that indulge.

Rural parts of England and wales have more in common with rural Scotland than the central belt.

often I think that cultural icons are heavily played upon for money making, othering and an obsession with identity (here is Scotland anyway).
My eyes where opened when I went to the celts exhibition at the national museum of Scotland about a decade ago and realised these torque wearing people of the past reached across to Germany and what we associate today with Celtic nations really was a 1920s construct to boost tourism.

I quite like how each nation in GB is different and that there are regional differences within each country.

Seymour5 · 14/05/2025 06:52

FurierTransform · 13/05/2025 17:04

Yes, for sure there are distinct cultures in wales / scotland / NI. We are more united than we are different though & that's the main thing.

I agree. Lots of us, whilst identifying mainly with one part of the UK are hybrids. I consider myself Scottish, still have the accent after 2/3 of my life spent in England. My DNA says I’m just over half Scots, quite a bit of English and Irish, and a few % Scandinavian. One DGC has had theirs tested, much more English plus some Welsh. DH would say he’s English, athough a lot of his childhood was in Scotland.

In all the places I’ve lived, people have just been people. Economic and class related differences are often more noticeable than national ones. Having said that, I like pipe bands and kilts. 😁

Serpentstooth · 14/05/2025 06:37

Differences? Try buying a deep fried pizza anywhere other than in Scorland. You'll soon be put straight.

WhereIsMyJumper · 14/05/2025 06:26

Of course there are differences.
There are differences even within each nation.
There is a different culture in, for example, Cornwall than there is in Birmingham and a different one again in the north

WonderingWanda · 14/05/2025 06:02

I think there are cultural variations and certainly clear cultural identities between the different nations. However, I would say that are similarities and many aspects if the individual cultures that are shared or perhaps have spread so that people from the UK will identify with them. One small example is Scottish bag pipes or haggis. I know these are Scottish but I do also identify with them as someone from England. I've listened to bag pipes outside Buckingham Palace, have eaten Haggis on Burns night etc. The same with the other nations. Cornwall, which despite it's best efforts is still part of England has many cultural similarities in terms of celtic heritage such as language and folklore. I think it's really fascinating how we can have such distinct regions and nations but that it all forms a larger identity.

Angrymum22 · 14/05/2025 04:05

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 03:29

Educate yourself. It's not my job to educate a grown adult who can do their own research. No, our system is nothing like England's. We don't teach subjects, so there's your first one.

What do you teach then?

MayaPinion · 14/05/2025 03:51

There’s no such thing as ‘British culture’ and when we refer to it we’re actually talking about English culture.

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 03:29

latetothefisting · 13/05/2025 23:02

forgive me if I interpret this as 'I can't actually pick out what's wrong so I'll just make a snarky comment.'

if you really are a teacher aren't you inspired to, you know, educate me?

do kids in England not start school until 7?
do they not study maths, English, science?
if you get a degree from Bristol are you not allowed to teach in Cardiff?
am I mistaken and the school year in Wales actually starts from August like in Scotland or ends in June like in Ireland?

come on, you know you want to get that red pen out....

nobody has said that the two systems are completely identical. Just that they are more similar than different, and have more in common with each other than pretty much any other country's educational systems.

If you're going to say they aren't similar "at all" and cry with laughter to indicate how ludicrous the very idea is, the onus is on you to explain why....

Educate yourself. It's not my job to educate a grown adult who can do their own research. No, our system is nothing like England's. We don't teach subjects, so there's your first one.

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