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Is there cultural differences between the 4 countries of the UK?

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Lynsey953 · 20/03/2025 20:59

I often see a lot on the news about British Culture and UK culture but I know that Scotland has a different education system to England and Wales as well as higher taxes paid to the government and a lot of "free" things paid for by these taxes i.e. free prescriptions, free university tuition etc ... A lot of people in Scotland also identify as Scottish, not British. Do you think this means Scottish people have a different cultural identity than English or Welsh people?

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SarfLondonLad · 23/05/2025 12:14

Given that there are cultural differences within the 4 countries of the UK (i.e. North and South Wales, Highlands and Lowland of Scotland etc), of course there are cultural differences.

MarkingBad · 23/05/2025 12:11

celticnations · 23/05/2025 11:06

So if I said that Lachlan/Morag from the Highlands were meeting Pat/Saiorse their BFFs from Cork in a Wegie pub, vs Nigel/Penelope from Newbury meeting Tristan/Drusilla from Salisbury in a Chelsea wine bar, you would all instantly identify with the intrinsic cultural differences implied. :))

How, both are couple going out for an evening where alcohol is served. You could even throw in French and Spanish couples going to meet in a taverna into the mix and it's pretty much the same thing

Of course there are cultural differences but some of the perceptions of culture are really not so very different as people love to think.

Snickersnack1 · 23/05/2025 11:12

Massively so! They have their own history and languages and all the literature, art, music and cultural norms and traditions that come with that. It’s incredible to me that so many English people don’t have a clue about the variety of cultures within our own Island!
Any day of first week of August, please come to the National Eisteddfod in Wrexham for a taste of Welsh culture!

(We do have free prescriptions in Wales, but we do also have to pay tuition fees. It’s Scotland that doesn’t have tuition fees.)

celticnations · 23/05/2025 11:06

So if I said that Lachlan/Morag from the Highlands were meeting Pat/Saiorse their BFFs from Cork in a Wegie pub, vs Nigel/Penelope from Newbury meeting Tristan/Drusilla from Salisbury in a Chelsea wine bar, you would all instantly identify with the intrinsic cultural differences implied. :))

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Jellycatspyjamas · 21/03/2025 07:50

Thanks for the replies! I’m just surprised that it would still be boy/girl, could you have a same sex pairings?

Given classes rarely have equal numbers of boys and girls I’m sure there are often same sex partners. They’re there to learn the dances though, not to express a sexual preference aged 10.

Of course you could have same sex pairings….you never heard of the Gay Gordon’s!? Honestly, these are kids at primary school, let’s leave the pc nonsense behind for five minutes 🙄

Seymour5 · 15/05/2025 07:37

I grew up in Dundee and still have some extended family there. There was a clear distinction between those who said ‘eh’ and ‘peh’ etc., and those who didn’t. It still exists. My mother was from a large W/C family, none spoke in the vernacular. They sounded more like my father who went to private school. Pretty standard Scots English.

My great aunt was a weaver in a Dundee mill, but the next generation of women, my mum’s siblings, went into offices. They had to speak ‘properly’ to get those jobs back then, and it was instilled into my generation of the family, 1940s and 50s. I’ve never had a problem being understood since I moved to England, although it’s still obvious where my origins are.

ThatAgileCoralBird · 15/05/2025 06:48

most people speak a colloquial dialect of English that is specific to their county/region/ city;
Dundee famous ‘eh and peh’ doesn’t seem to be permeate into Angus. these dialects are more akin to English than Scots.
I think Doric is the only official dialect of Scots.

Scotland does have Cathedrals; St Giles in Edinburgh,
Dornoch and Brechin for example.

TheOriginalEmu · 15/05/2025 03:32

Givesoner · 15/05/2025 01:02

  1. 1% of Scotland speaks Gaelic. 7. Is the same in England.

Id say most Scottish people speak at least some Scots, even if they don’t realise it.

TheOriginalEmu · 15/05/2025 03:31

Of course. It would be hard not to have differences when we have different languages. Speaking another language changes more than just what you say, but your whole world view is different.
I think it’s great that we have those differences, diversity is a great thing.

Gettingamixedresponse · 15/05/2025 03:24

IVFmumoftwo · 20/03/2025 23:15

You are aware that the English have Celtic ancestry too?

Yes, I think people forget the warrior queen Boudicca was Celtic. From around Norfolk I think. The Celts settled as far east as Russia and all the way down into southern Europe.

Givesoner · 15/05/2025 01:11

latetothefisting · 21/03/2025 01:44

Hmmm can't agree with most of this

Yes it varies by area but you could say the same about anywhere else - the culture of Tower hamlets is going to be pretty different to the culture of Oxford or Brighton.

You could break "different lifestyles and experinces" down to different neighbourhoods only streets away from each other in pontcanna vs Riverside but that wasn't what the op was asking - they were talking on a national level/ the countries as wholes and it is undisputable fact- there are NO grammar schools in the whole of Wales and, while YOU might know a number of people who went/go to private school but statistically,, in the country as a whole, that's unusual - according to This there are only 19 private schools in the whole of Wales- and those are concentrated in certain areas (mainly Monmouth and cardiff) so there are whole counties in Wales without any private schools at all. The same article says that 5 counties in Wales didn't have any children educated privately.

So instead of 7-10% of kids going to private school and another 10-15% going to grammar, 99-100% of kids in many many areas will go to the local state school regardless of their family background. That is going to have a huge impact on the way people interact and grow up.

As for the rest - that's your experience -I can only report my own and say that, despite of course understanding growing up that some families were richer/poorer than others and some parents did different jobs, I didn't have anything like the concept of defined social "class" that ALL the new English friends/acquaintances I met at uni seemed to have an inherent understanding of, and even now that I "get" it, it's not something that figures in my daily life or I ever discuss and think about - whereas the extent to which the topic is discussed on here (not to mention all the newspaper articles, books etc) on it suggests there are a lot of people in England who are still very interested in it.

Just one example -it's weird to me that riding/keeping horses is seen as a middle or upper class activity when every single person I know who rides regularly is very much not posh or well off at all, just live in the countryside!

There are no grammar schools in north east England either. This isn’t a difference between countries, it’s a difference between areas of the UK.

Givesoner · 15/05/2025 01:02

JaninaDuszejko · 20/03/2025 23:03

So I'm Scottish but have lived in England for most of my adult life. There are multiple cultural differences.

  1. Language. Scots speak Gaelic or Scots.
  2. Education. In Scotland you start school later, and finish earlier. University is 4 years and St Andrews, Aberdeen, Glasgow and Edinburgh are all older than Durham. The principles behind the Curriculum for Excellence are very different to the principles behind the National Curriculum. Children sit different exams at different ages, and breadth is maintained for longer so there isn't the same two cultures you get in England between the sciences and the humanities. The Scottish private schools are not as elitist as the English private schools and there's a longer history of people bettering themselves through education and empire.
  3. Law. There is the Children's Panel system for children. There are Advocates not Barristers. There's the 'not proven' verdict. The qualifications to practice law are different.
  4. Religion. Scotland is a Presbyterian (Calvinist) protestant country. The church is not hierarchical, there are no bishops and no cathedrals.
  5. Sport. Scots play golf, shinty, curling. We don't play cricket
  6. Politics. The government is devolved in Scotland. Scotland is generally more left leaning than England. Scotland didn't want Brexit.
  7. Marriage. Gravestones have the surname women were born with. The profession of the mother of the bride and groom is included on the marriage certificates.
  8. Most importantly, the water tastes amazingand the Scots talk to everyone
  1. 1% of Scotland speaks Gaelic. 7. Is the same in England.
Ellephanting · 15/05/2025 00:09

I’ve moved around England a fair bit. Cultural differences exist between counties, never mind countries.

Hortus · 15/05/2025 00:04

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 23:07

Why do you think a single, standardised, written test is an accurate measure of attainment?

There has to be a way of comparing performance. PISA is an international testing system. But on any public exam measures or percentage of young people going to university Wales is always behind England. You simply cannot have an education system where no comparisons are made of attainment either between students or between different areas/demographics etc.

celticnations · 14/05/2025 23:18

One new difference: Assisted Dying.

celticnations · 14/05/2025 23:08

LlynTegid · 14/05/2025 19:04

Some of the cultural oppression of Wales and Scotland is not ancient history of hundreds of years ago.

The Welsh not (punishment for speaking Cymreag) was in existence until Victorian times and those of my family who started teaching in the 1890s were not allowed to teach in Welsh, having to do remedial English lessons for the local mining families.

The Highland Clearances in Scotland continued until at least 1855, and were not formally outlawed until 1886.

There are things in common, but many cultural differences between the four countries of the United Kingdom.

And Partition in Ireland in 1921.

The arbutrary removal by Westminster of 6 Irish counties from their 26 fellow counties to make "Northern Ireland".

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 23:07

Hortus · 14/05/2025 19:30

Well, here in Wales we have got the lowest rankings of all 4 nations in PISA tests, so something's not working.

Why do you think a single, standardised, written test is an accurate measure of attainment?

ThatAgileCoralBird · 14/05/2025 19:53

Highland clearances were not the oppression of the Scots by the English.
Many Scottish landlords wanted to depopulate the highlands for their own gain. Yet again the poor people received the shitty end of the stick.

Whilst I do not agree with the brutal highland clearances I imagine the Highlands and Islands of Scotland would look very different today if they had not happened; perhaps not as much nature and biodiversity but better infrastructure and increased population? Who knows. As flower of Scotland says; those days are gone now and in the past they must remain.

There was an interesting article in the critic a few months ago about grooming gangs suggesting that the problem stems from the tribal areas the ethnic minority males come from which have been translated to a micro community here in the U.K. rather than their faith.
It made me ponder if the tribal Scottish clans implemented the same behaviour.
elder men implement their laws, having final say so on many everyday matters;
outwith the clan is seen as not one of us so any atrocities done are not that bad and there are not many repercussions from your clan;
waring clans can have blood feuds for generations;
within the clan any crimes committed need to be dealt with fairly and swiftly as there is strength and success in keeping a harmonious clan together.

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Toootss · 14/05/2025 19:44

LlynTegid · 14/05/2025 19:04

Some of the cultural oppression of Wales and Scotland is not ancient history of hundreds of years ago.

The Welsh not (punishment for speaking Cymreag) was in existence until Victorian times and those of my family who started teaching in the 1890s were not allowed to teach in Welsh, having to do remedial English lessons for the local mining families.

The Highland Clearances in Scotland continued until at least 1855, and were not formally outlawed until 1886.

There are things in common, but many cultural differences between the four countries of the United Kingdom.

But let’s face it the ones who were ‘cleared’ or chose to clear (and there were lowland clearances too) went mostly to the US and a better life.

Hortus · 14/05/2025 19:30

SquashedSquid · 14/05/2025 14:57

Oh, dear. The English education system is an extremely awful way to teach and no, ours is absolutely nothing like it. Thank goodness.

Well, here in Wales we have got the lowest rankings of all 4 nations in PISA tests, so something's not working.

MarkingBad · 14/05/2025 19:09

Serpentstooth · 14/05/2025 18:49

Scotland, Wales and Ireland have all been fought over, and oppressed by, the English. So yes, many differences, and we English have finally learned it's more expedient to shut up about it these days. If you listen to Prime Ministers Question Time, the barely suppressed contempt for Scotland and Wales can come as a surprise if you're unaware of the history. Northern Ireland is currently being treated carefully due to its unique EU situation.

You and I didn't do any oppressing. Ancestors of the ruling classes did, people living in poverty had a choice to do the bidding of those people or starve like everyone else but they didn't make the decisions

My ancestors came from all over, most were not in positions to make big decisions, just to carry out the grunt work, even the wealthy higher born ones. Some worked on their doorstep for a pittance, some had to buy their food with tokens from the factory shop and lived in a warm bed system, some spent their lives working on the land and had to pay for any help out of their own wages, quite a lot of them died in battles or of the usual military ailments. Those people were English or lived in England, not people who made big decisions and oppressed people off their own back. I get fed up of people labelling all English as one big oppressive mass, most English were just normal people going about their day, raising their families and dying for their country in wars they didn't start in places under different stars.

Serpentstooth · 14/05/2025 19:09

Correct, I'm amazed the Welsh language has survived. Completely discouraged well into the 1970s.

LlynTegid · 14/05/2025 19:04

Some of the cultural oppression of Wales and Scotland is not ancient history of hundreds of years ago.

The Welsh not (punishment for speaking Cymreag) was in existence until Victorian times and those of my family who started teaching in the 1890s were not allowed to teach in Welsh, having to do remedial English lessons for the local mining families.

The Highland Clearances in Scotland continued until at least 1855, and were not formally outlawed until 1886.

There are things in common, but many cultural differences between the four countries of the United Kingdom.

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