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To think it's very depressing that school children need to learn this

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Eastie77Returns · 20/03/2025 15:04

DD's school is producing a video showing children what to do in the event there is an intruder in the school and they need to go into 'lockdown'. I found out as she has been asked to take part in the video production.She is in Y7.

DS is in Y4 and he told me they did a practice drill at his primary school where they followed the steps they needed to take in a similar situation.

Honestly it makes me feel very sad. I understand in the current climate it's necessary and in countries like the US it's standard but I never thought I'd see something like this here.

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5en5uou5 · 20/03/2025 19:32

I teach at an inner-London primary, and it’s very much part of our safeguarding policy now. Depressing but, sadly, potentially necessary.

Tandora · 20/03/2025 19:32

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2025 19:30

Again, don't be silly.

The government recommendation is that schools have a procedure in place for various scenarios. It's not hysteria, it is utterly common sense.

Schools do have to use lockdown procedures occasionally.

They don’t have to use procedures that involve children hiding under tables. They really don’t . That is silly- and potentially frightening for small children. . I don’t care if the government recommend it - they recommend all kinds of ridiculous things - eg sending asylum seekers to Rwanda.

ShinyWorthKeeping · 20/03/2025 19:31

I'm a nursery teacher and we do this too, weve even needed to use it once.

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2025 19:31

elliejjtiny · 20/03/2025 19:27

I think it's a good idea. The school will be talking to the dc about it in a calm, non scary way so that if something happens (much more likely to be an angry parent than a stranger with a gun) then the children won't panic.

Unfortunately, 'child with knife' is also not an uncommon scenario.

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2025 19:30

Tandora · 20/03/2025 19:27

Personally I think the drills are completely ridiculous and no I wouldn’t want my child doing them. Thankfully she’s at a school that doesn’t buy into the hysteria.

Again, don't be silly.

The government recommendation is that schools have a procedure in place for various scenarios. It's not hysteria, it is utterly common sense.

Schools do have to use lockdown procedures occasionally.

elliejjtiny · 20/03/2025 19:27

I think it's a good idea. The school will be talking to the dc about it in a calm, non scary way so that if something happens (much more likely to be an angry parent than a stranger with a gun) then the children won't panic.

Tandora · 20/03/2025 19:27

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2025 19:21

Don’t be silly.

Personally I think the drills are completely ridiculous and no I wouldn’t want my child doing them. Thankfully she’s at a school that doesn’t buy into the hysteria.

exLtEveDallas · 20/03/2025 19:25

We have 3 different drills at our Primary:

The fire drill (evacuation) which takes the children from classes to the school playground/field.

The lockdown which takes place when the children are in class and involves locking the doors and moving away from windows/under tables.

The invacuation that takes place when the children are outside (ie lunchtime) and involves either bringing them inside to classes or going to their class space on the playground for a head count.

We do all 3 a couple of times a year. The children barely notice, and do them as a matter of course, including the nursery. They all have their place, and aren't necessarily for 'depressing' reasons - ie we had to do invacuation recently when one of our automatic gates failed and we needed to be sure that none of the children had escaped!

The lockdown drill is explained to children as 'someone coming into school who shouldn't be there' - our children are taught to challenge any visitor that isn't wearing a visitors lanyard and photo badge - as a few of our Governors have discovered! We've never had a child scared of it in all the years we've been doing it (and in this day and age when so many parents complain about every little thing, we've never had a parental complaint either).

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2025 19:21

Tandora · 20/03/2025 19:09

To my knowledge we’ve never had a drill like this in my kids’ school in south England and I’d be horrified (/complaining) if they did!

Don’t be silly.

noodlebugz · 20/03/2025 19:21

I agree that it’s sad they’d need to but sensible that they do these drills.

Sheeparelooseagain · 20/03/2025 19:19

"Most schools didn't have secure fencing and keypad entry system prior to 13 March 1996 either but they all do now."

I was teaching at the time and I remember the school installing keypad entry and lockable doors soon afterwards.

Applesarenice · 20/03/2025 19:17

My child’s school doesn’t but I wish they did

Dogsbreath7 · 20/03/2025 19:16

Eastie77Returns · 20/03/2025 15:04

DD's school is producing a video showing children what to do in the event there is an intruder in the school and they need to go into 'lockdown'. I found out as she has been asked to take part in the video production.She is in Y7.

DS is in Y4 and he told me they did a practice drill at his primary school where they followed the steps they needed to take in a similar situation.

Honestly it makes me feel very sad. I understand in the current climate it's necessary and in countries like the US it's standard but I never thought I'd see something like this here.

Sorry which stone have you been living under? It has started here.

Look up recent history- Dunblane. Can you be so ignorant?

Never mind what happened with the girls killed at the Dance class.

witwatwoo · 20/03/2025 19:13

Tandora · 20/03/2025 19:09

To my knowledge we’ve never had a drill like this in my kids’ school in south England and I’d be horrified (/complaining) if they did!

Complaining about a drill that would safeguard your children in an emergency ?

BreastfeedingWedding · 20/03/2025 19:13

Crunchymum · 20/03/2025 15:56

Doesn't happen in my DC's London (Zone 1) schools. One primary and the other is a very cenrally located Secondary. It doesn't happen the school my sister works at or the one the SiL teaches at.

Doesn't happen at any of the schools my [19] neices and nephews attend.

Doesn't happen at any if the schools my friends kids attend.

Where are these drills happening?

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Our children’s nursery is next door to a migrant hotel with hundreds of residents. They do these drills. With 0-4 year olds.

I think about it all the time. If they were in the garden then they can’t grab them all. Who would they grab. It’s terrifying.

HappySheldon · 20/03/2025 19:12

That's so strange. Why would you complain? It's different from a fire drill where you have to leave the building. If there is a threat you need people to stay put. And they need to know what to do.

It does not benefit anyone to hide yourself from the reality of the modern world.

TickingAlongNicely · 20/03/2025 19:12

What is more likely...

  1. An irate parent shouting at the headteacher, and they want the children out of the way.
  1. The school burning down during the day.
Tandora · 20/03/2025 19:09

SnoozingFox · 20/03/2025 16:41

Every few months there are threads like this with parents saying that "every school in the UK" does this regularly.

Just popping on to reiterate that it's not common practice in Scotland and never has been. That's not to say the teachers and staff don't plan and run scenarios, and modern secondary schools I have been in have doors which can be locked to seal off parts of the building or corridors. But Scottish kids don't practice for it.

To my knowledge we’ve never had a drill like this in my kids’ school in south England and I’d be horrified (/complaining) if they did!

brunettemic · 20/03/2025 19:09

It’s not really that different to a fire drill. How to act in a dangerous situation…I don’t get the issue.

HappySheldon · 20/03/2025 19:06

No, OP as I said on a pp the first I had heard of lockdown drills on MN I asked my 2 Dcs if they knew what it was. They were like 'Yeah mum. WTF. Of course we know what they are!'. They had NOT told me. It's as much a bread and butter event as the fire drill. And we are in a very rural school. And as I have said we have had 3 occasions IRL to use it in the past 10 years. (angry parents- police chase- man with machete outside the school)

People are making too much of it IMO. Do your children come home and tell you every time they have a fire drill? of course not. Because it's normal.

Bristollocalknowledge · 20/03/2025 19:03

Dunblane was 1996. Lock down procedures are not new.

Eastie77Returns · 20/03/2025 18:59

Swiftie1878 · 20/03/2025 18:18

Then their kids just didn’t tell them.
At primary it is described as ‘if an animal gets into school etc’.

Of course it’s sad that the world is not perfectly safe, but I’m grateful schools do this.
Different mindset.

No, it’s not that their kids “didn’t tell them”. It didn’t happen.

It’s already been widely noted on this thread that many, many schools do not do Lockdown drills whether it’s disguised as be prepared for a wild animal, a swarm of bees or whatever.

My school didn’t. My kids last primary school didn’t. Their current school does.

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EdithBond · 20/03/2025 18:49

Eastie77Returns · 20/03/2025 16:48

Perhaps it’s a decision taken by school leadership as it seems schools in the same location (e.g. London) approach this differently.

I’m certain the school my DC attended in East London up until 3 years ago didn’t do this. I know some parents actually asked the HT what the safety protocols were in case of an intruder as the school was overlooked by a housing estate with high levels of crime and on one occasion a man who was being chased by the police ran into the playground. On another occasion a woman was shot dead outside the school and the children were sent home early as part of the school entrance was a crime scene. Despite this there were no drills or anything.

My DC never had to do these drills at school. And they went to London schools until recently. I assume the staff were trained.

Brokeandold · 20/03/2025 18:49

I work in early years and lockdown practice is now part of our policies,like a fire drill. Tend to practice without the children inside although when they’re outside we practice getting them in quickly
very very sad part of life now…..

Lovelysummerdays · 20/03/2025 18:41

I’d agree depressing but necessary. The sentencing of the young man who killed his family and planned to massacre a class of school kids made me think about how important security is at school.