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To think all schools should ban the use of smartphones entirely during school day?

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90sseemedsomucheasier · 20/03/2025 12:52

I would welcome a ban on smartphones in my child’s secondary school.

At present, in my child’s school they are allowed to take them in, but the rule is that they are to be kept at in their bags and not be seen at all. I think they get a couple of behaviour points if seen, and if seen for a third time then it is confiscated.

I know that, had smartphones existed when I was in school, I would have been a master a checking it without getting caught. I would have been on social media, messaging my friends, secretly listening to music with one AirPod under my hair, looking up answers to questions I didn’t know. I’d have never got in trouble because I would have been stealth like in my use of it. But it would have distracted me, it would have called out to me all day. I’d be waiting for my next check of it and thinking about it. I would therefore not have worked as hard, or chatted to friends as much. It would have fed me a horrible narrative about what I should look like, what my life should be like, how everyone appeared better than me and I’d be full of anxiety and not feel good enough.

This is what is happening to our children today. They don’t have the strength to stay away from them - they may not be seen doing it but they are constantly on them. Even the best behaved kids.

Even if teachers do notice a child having a quick look at their phone, they’ve got so much other stuff to do with the demands of their job - are they going to challenge the child and make more work for themselves or are they going to pretend they haven’t seen it.

Children take secret photos and videos and send them to one another to ridicule and bully. Inappropriate contest is airdropped and shared via WhatsApp groups.

As a parent, I am on it with internet safety (as is dh). We use parental control tools and my year 7 child is not allowed social media,free access to the internet and we monitor their use of their phone each evening. There are screen time limits and phone switches of at 7pm and is not allowed in bedroom.

I often feel like we are going against the grain in doing this. I feel alone and like other parents don’t see the issue with handing our children a device where they can access ANYTHING and absolutely will access anything because they are naturally curious. Curiosity is normal, but the level of information, the horrors, the ideologies and the algorithms that form as a result are not. They are extremely damaging.

I know, when I look online (I know, the irony) that there are other parents that feel the same way. But it is hard in real life. When you’re child goes to secondary school and makes new friends who went to a different primary you have no idea what their parents, and their parenting choices, are like.

Whilst I know my child is safe online in my home, I don’t know when I send them out to school. They can be exposed to all sorts of horrors / porn / ideologies because other parents send their child to school with unrestricted smartphones, whether that is because they don’t understand the dangers, or simply do not care.

do any other parents agree with me that schools should be made to ban smartphones entirely? And by ban I mean asking students to hand them in - either a locker or a faraday pouch on arrival. I get that they are a part of life and needed for safety on journey to and from school (although I would argue that for many they don’t actually even need it for that!). But during school hours they simply do not need them and should not have access to them.

This has been rolled out in some schools already and the benefits are already being seen. I would welcome it in a heartbeat if my child’s school did this!!

What do you think? Would really love to hear people’s opinions -

YABU - children should be allowed access to their phones throughout the school day

YANBU - all schools should ban smartphone access on school sites entirely by asking students to leave them at home, place them in a phone locker or in a faraday pouch

OP posts:
ChocHotolate · 20/03/2025 15:47

My son is at one of the schools which has banned smart phones this year, the head teacher has been in the national press talking about it.
I was sceptical at first but agree with the ban now

ShaunaSadeki · 20/03/2025 15:43

When DD had hers confiscated she asked us to go to the school and demand her phone back as her human rights were being violated and it was theft 😂. We obviously told her to do one.

neverbeenskiing · 20/03/2025 15:41

Jade520 · 20/03/2025 13:11

Yes i think it would be great to have them removed at the beginning of the day and given back at the end - those that need them for medical reasons can obviously keep them just as they do in exams.

They trialled this at a school where I worked. There were definitely some positives but it also caused a lot of problems.

Kids refusing to hand phones in- this is to be expected of course, but what we weren't anticipating was the number of parents who kicked off when their child was given a sanction for refusing.

Kids would say they hadn't go their phone on them, that they'd left them at home. Then they'd skip lessons to sit in the toilets going on their phones. Again, this was expected but parents weren't always supportive of consequences being put in place and it took a lot of staff time to deal with it.

We were told by parents that we were "violating their child's human rights" by not allowing phones and a couple even refused to send their kids into school.

We agreed medical exemption for the small number of children who use their phone as a medical device. Cue an influx of children who apparently needed their phone on them all day "for their Mental Health", including children who we had never been informed had any Mental health concerns previously. We were accused of causing or worsening anxiety, traumatising children and taking their only coping strategy away from them.

One Dad threatened to call the Police as in his opinion we had "committed theft". Another parent accused us of only coming up with the policy :so teachers could snoop through kids phones"...because their child is so fascinating obviously.

LoztWorld · 20/03/2025 15:41

Do the posters who support phones in schools feel they themselves are able to adequately regulate their phone use?

I know I am not. And every other adult I’ve ever discussed this with considers their phone addiction a major drain on their quality of life too.

If you don’t feel your world at least slightly diminished by your excessive phone use that’s great. But you are in a tiny, tiny minority even among adults. Never mind children.

Pippa12 · 20/03/2025 15:40

@OldTiredMum1976 its a shame your posts are so angry and offensive resulting in name calling (ie. Parents being Numpty’s etc). I actually think you make some good points, but you lose moral high ground with your aggressive writing.

Im sure you teach your pupils to debate without resorting to derogatory terms when people’s opinions differ. Perhaps you should try it.

kingcake · 20/03/2025 15:39

FKAT · 20/03/2025 15:26

Sure @kingcake . My arguments are it's authoritarian, unrealistic and pompous to expect everyone you have to 'share decision making powers' with to align with your 'values' (if you can call a child having unfettered 24 hour access to a £600+ internet device a 'value') and if you don't like an institution's rules, alternatives including home schooling, are available.

Edited

Well I never said anything about unfettered 24 hour access. I simply don't want institutions stepping in and making blanket decisions that affect f my child, when I want to be the one to decide what is best for my own child. I accept that that sometimes means opting out of institutions and doing things like homeschooling. As I said, fortunately my child attends a school where I am on board with the rules and if I weren't we would look elsewhere. I just don't like blanket bans and confiscations when there are a lot of human individuals involved with different needs and ideas about things. I respect that you feel differently. I've lived in a lot of different countries and I find that in Britain there is a different attitude toward personal liberty than what I feel comfortable with. But it's a very interesting discussion.

FKAT · 20/03/2025 15:26

Sure @kingcake . My arguments are it's authoritarian, unrealistic and pompous to expect everyone you have to 'share decision making powers' with to align with your 'values' (if you can call a child having unfettered 24 hour access to a £600+ internet device a 'value') and if you don't like an institution's rules, alternatives including home schooling, are available.

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 15:26

TheSippyCupSociety · 20/03/2025 15:19

I absolutely would not trust my sons school with his phone

Maybe if school wasn’t spending so much of the day dealing with phones then it wouldn’t be so shitty that it couldn’t be trusted to monitor children locking phones away safely.

Honestly, this thread is the perfect example of why state schools will never improve…all the numpty parents who believe that their feelings and beliefs matter more than children getting a good education. Us teachers are absolutely sick of you all. Do you know how many specialist maths teachers many of the schools I supply at have? None! That’s right! Just me on supply. All 20 of the maths teachers I qualified with have left the profession for many reasons but dealing with parents who wouldn’t support the school trying to do their best for all of the children was high up there. It’s just a shame that the children will suffer.

Parker231 · 20/03/2025 15:25

TheSippyCupSociety · 20/03/2025 15:19

I absolutely would not trust my sons school with his phone

Well he doesn’t take it to school then or would face it being confiscated

UnPetitCochon · 20/03/2025 15:24

My children’s school collects them in the morning and gives them back at the end of the day. They moved afternoon registration to the end of the school day to accommodate this.

kingcake · 20/03/2025 15:22

FKAT · 20/03/2025 15:17

I don't want to work together with a collective of adults who may have values different to mine.

😂

Oh my Christ.

Why not argue your point rather than just sneer at mine? When it comes to decisions made about the upbringing of my child, I don't want to share decision making powers with institutions.

TheSippyCupSociety · 20/03/2025 15:19

Eyerollexpert · 20/03/2025 13:04

Most high schools in our area already have banned them . Hand in before lessons collect after.

I absolutely would not trust my sons school with his phone

FKAT · 20/03/2025 15:17

I don't want to work together with a collective of adults who may have values different to mine.

😂

Oh my Christ.

miniaturepixieonacid · 20/03/2025 15:17

They're almost completely banned where I teach. Exceptions are:

  • children who come to school on the school mini buses - they hand them in at reception at the start of the day, they get locked in a special phone safe and then given back to them at the end of the day (but that's only about 10 children out of 300)
  • boarders - but their phones stay on the boarding floor, they don't come down into the main school. They are locked in the boarding office 95% of the time and the children get them for half an hour in the evenings then sign them back in.
  • The 1 child we have with T1D. He has had a phone since Year 3 and is now Year 8 and has never abused it. All he can do on it is monitor his levels and phone his parents if needed. No other apps or anything on it, It's not his 'social' phone, just a medical aid.
But our children age out of the school after Year 8 so it's much easier to control them.

I imagine it would be really, really hard to have it in your bag all day and not look at it once. I don't think I could do that and I'm 40! I'd be sneaking looks all the time.

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 15:13

GoneOffTheRails · 20/03/2025 15:12

You’re very rude.

Well you’re also very rude for not bothering to read the thread before storming in an accusing me of saying that wealthy parents are better than those with less money.

GoneOffTheRails · 20/03/2025 15:12

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 15:07

Try and actually read my posts 🙄and removing that large chip from your shoulder. It has nothing to do with parenting apart from the fact that the parents at private school agree to the phones being locked up every day or they choose another school. The phones in private schools are locked away all day! This means that I don’t have to deal with them at all in lessons.

Honestly, if you have read the thread and your takeaway was that then there really is no hope. Absolutely stupid.

You’re very rude.

OldTiredMum1976 · 20/03/2025 15:07

GoneOffTheRails · 20/03/2025 14:32

EVERY lesson in every state school I supply in has phone issues. I can spend from 10% to 100% of the lesson time dealing with it. I then go and supply in the private schools and 0% of every lesson is spent dealing with it. Can you spot the difference???

Wealthy people are better parents than those who can’t afford private school fees?

Try and actually read my posts 🙄and removing that large chip from your shoulder. It has nothing to do with parenting apart from the fact that the parents at private school agree to the phones being locked up every day or they choose another school. The phones in private schools are locked away all day! This means that I don’t have to deal with them at all in lessons.

Honestly, if you have read the thread and your takeaway was that then there really is no hope. Absolutely stupid.

snugasbuginarug · 20/03/2025 15:04

@tiswapeople should say what they want to happen and not be quiet because they don’t think it could happen, right?
I actually think most parents are just giving in to peer pressure (other parents) rather than thinking it’s the right thing to do.

Tiswa · 20/03/2025 14:57

snugasbuginarug · 20/03/2025 14:46

@tiswa
You’re right, of course. I think you get the gist of what I’m saying.
We need to focus on getting the parents’ backing - absolutely. Hopefully threads like that are helping.

And I just don’t think that will happen in tje state system!

Parker231 · 20/03/2025 14:53

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/03/2025 14:47

Parents need to respect the school policies, when they don't, the children won't.

Confiscating for one day wouldn't be a deterrent, if DD was caught on her phone, losing it for 3 days, that is her problem. She is aware of the consequences.

Don't use it, if you don't want to lose it.

Parents are at fault.

Edited

Agree - DT’s knew the school rules and if their phones were confiscated for a week and I had to go into school to collect it at the end of week - their problem being without a phone!

ShaunaSadeki · 20/03/2025 14:52

Thank you @OldTiredMum1976!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/03/2025 14:47

Parents need to respect the school policies, when they don't, the children won't.

Confiscating for one day wouldn't be a deterrent, if DD was caught on her phone, losing it for 3 days, that is her problem. She is aware of the consequences.

Don't use it, if you don't want to lose it.

Parents are at fault.

snugasbuginarug · 20/03/2025 14:46

@tiswa
You’re right, of course. I think you get the gist of what I’m saying.
We need to focus on getting the parents’ backing - absolutely. Hopefully threads like that are helping.

PonkyPonky · 20/03/2025 14:41

I would support them being handed in when they arrive then given back at the end of the day but not a complete ban. My brother was badly beaten by bullies as a teenager and he had to wait for help while his friend ran to the nearest phone box, luckily had the 20p required and knew our landline number to call our mum for help. That situation would be better with mobiles. There’s a lot of buses not showing up, young people walking home alone etc, that would all be helped with phones. Surely it’s better to teach when it is and isn’t appropriate use than to just ban altogether.

Tiswa · 20/03/2025 14:41

snugasbuginarug · 20/03/2025 14:31

People saying we cannot have a blanket ban because you can’t implement it remind me a little bit of people in the USA who cannot imagine having guns banned, even though the rest of the world is already doing it successfully…

Of course, it can be done. We just need to decide.

well no because

(a) there isn’t a blanket ban on guns

and more importantly

(b) it is around the buying of them.

(c) you need the public behind it - it’s why a ban in the US doesn’t work. You would need parent backing and at the moment I don’t think that exists
yes we could ban mobile phones but in order to manage it it would be an overall ban

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