To not pay for an unwanted child?

Or just not have sex with random men

I had a pregnancy from a ons and he won't pay. Won't be involved in his daughter's life.

Kinda sad really...

But his choice.

I get money from him or else I would have starved.

I'm now married with three children

Regarding ‘more research for male birth control’, Gabrielle Blair comments in her article:

“But what about birth control? If a woman doesn’t want to risk an unwanted pregnancy, why wouldn’t she just use birth control? If a women can manage to figure out how to get an abortion, surely she can get birth control, right? Great questions.

Modern birth control is possibly the greatest invention of the last century, and I am very grateful for it. It’s also brutal. The side effects for many women are ridiculously harmful. So ridiculous, that when an oral contraception for men was created, it wasn’t approved because of the side effects. And the list of side effects was about a third as long as the known side effects for women’s oral contraception.”

No contraception is 100%

I have a great deal of sympathy for decent men who find themselves in the position of reluctant fatherhood. Abstinence as a method of contraception is simply not grounded in reality.

I firmly believe that men should NOT be able to opt out of supporting a child that they have fathered, and that the current system for child support in this country is not fit for purpose and that children are suffering as a result.

These things can both be true simultaneously. You can acknowledge that yes, it is a crappy situation for a man to be in, whilst also making sure that he pays for his child, for the sake of that child.

This

Ok probably should've said "carry a child to term" then instead of conceive. But we have enough forms of contraception to make conceiving a child we don't want very unlikely.

Do you think it is so easy just to get an abortion or give a child away for adoption?
The burden of contraception falls so much on women, it's always our fault when it fails and men should be allowed to shag whoever they want without any regard to the consequences.
Men have choices, I don't know why that's so hard to accept.

I think even Solomon would find it hard to judge this situation correctly! Because, you know, people don’t always tell the truth about their actions (especially when ‘carried away’ by lust).

To reply to the several who have quoted my post and asked questions, like i said, unpopular opinion.
Also i know it would never actually be workable as a law because there's no way to prove if contraception was used or not and he said she said. It's just what i personally think would be the fair way to let BOTH genders have some say in becoming a parent or not. If a woman cannot be forced to be a parent and can choose abortion men should be able to choose not to be held responsible for babies they dont want because they obviously cannot force a woman to have an abortion. When pregnancy occurs women hold all the cards, can choose to keep when partner doesnt want to be a parent, or abort even if partner desperately wants the baby.

Basically we need more research for male birth control, women have tons of options, men get condom or the snip. They need something less parmanent than sterilisation, but more reliable than a condom.

To the person who said how would it be fair to the child as it only focuses on parents wants not childs needs, that would fall on the mother who knows she'd be going it alone financially. Her ability to provide for the child should be part of her decision to keep as solo financier, or abort if she cannot afford it by herself.

Only if you were misled. I.e hole in condom, or they had sex with you without consent.

How?
Women who don't want their baby abort it or give it up for adoption. They're not expected to continue paying for a cold they don't want.
They had sex just like a man with an unwanted pregnancy, but they're not punished with child support for a unwanted child. They're allowed to give it away

Fertility issues aside, how can you know you will never conceive a child from sex??

@Bertiel33 but as a woman I can have as much sex as I like and know I will never have to conceive a child. Not really the same is it?

Men and women do have the same choice over what happens to their bodies.

The difference is where the choice ends. Mens choice ends when the sperm leaves his body. No contraception is 100% effective so he can choose to accept the risk if pregnancy or solely have sex with women he wants to procreate with.

@Ghosttofu99 thanks, glad you read/found it interesting.

It’s very thorough in addressing all the “Yeah, but…” arguments! 💥

I have said this on other threads.
Yes any man that gets a woman pregnant should be paying for their child.

Here is the bit that people don't like, DNA testing should be standard at birth, that way the Father cannot get out of it and the CM should be garnished straight from their wages.

So true. The only consideration here should be the innocent one, which is the child. Disgusts me that anyone can think otherwise.

“There’s a lot to be unpacked just in that story, but I’ll simply point out, in case you weren’t aware, that as a society, we really don’t mind if women suffer, physically or mentally, as long as it makes things easier for men.”

Brilliant article, thanks for sharing

You can teach them they are wrong, it's not something to do,...

Two: he has no responsibility towards the child or the woman if he has been clear that he doesn’t want the child brought into existence.

At the risk of getting a deletion that has to be one of the stupidest things I've read on here.

Rather than teaching them ONS are wrong, I would rather they have all the information to make an informed decision. Teens (and many adults…) have poor impulse control. That’s why it’s important they know the facts - and the law - beforehand.

ONS can also be very satisfying if both parties are consenting. I don’t agree that they are fundamentally “wrong”.

The only foolproof way of a bloke being “clear that he doesn’t want the child brought into existence” is to refrain from intercourse.

Which way round is it supposed to be?

Anyone who thinks a man can opt out of paying to support children he created is so unreasonable it's not even worth debating. If men don't want children, get a vasectomy or don't have sex.

Common sense answer ^