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Help! She's standing on the toilet seat!!

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Crazyworksituatio · 19/03/2025 20:35

Help! I've no idea how to deal with this without offending. Since a new female employee has started working with us there are shoe prints on toilet seat. It's a corporate office but only a few females use this toilet so obvious who the culprit is. The lady is from India and new to country. She's very professional and I think this is a cultural difference but I'm horrified she thinks this is ok? What would you do??

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FrodoBiggins · 19/03/2025 22:54

Mischance · 19/03/2025 21:32

If you squat on it (as per pic) surely you piss or shit on your legs/feet -- that is gross.

And how the hell do they get up there/balance for a long hard log exiting?

She probably has much better balance & core strength than you. Western people are on average very bad at squatting

Violinist64 · 19/03/2025 22:52

Squatting over toilets is very common in many parts of Asia and they have toilets at ground level with no seat. It is also very common for people when encountering Western toilets for the first time to put their feet on the seat and squat in the way they know. The problem is not only one of hygiene, but of breaking the seat, which has happened many times. I agree with pp that notices in the cubicle are a good idea.

SpringIsNearlySpringing · 19/03/2025 22:51

ChompandaGrazia · 19/03/2025 22:46

DP’s cousin struggled to use western toilets, if you went to another country with unfamiliar toilets you’d be the same.

Quite. All these people who are shocked that anyone does this but equally shocked at the existence of squat toilets. What would you do with faced with a squat toilet if you had no idea such a thing existed.

No, when I first went to Turkey there were holes in the ground. It was pretty obvious what I had to do. Same as this lady probably knows how to use our loos but doesn’t want to.

She could have at least wiped her footprints off after.

Emptyandsad · 19/03/2025 22:50

100PercentFaithful · 19/03/2025 22:46

Having just been pondering this interesting thread whilst going to the loo, I do wonder why people would actually balance on the seat.
It’s pretty obvious that’s not the thing to do.
If I were unexpectedly to encounter a floor level toilet I wouldn’t think I should actually sit on the floor to use it.
Why wouldn’t someone just naturally work out they needed to sit on a raised toilet rather than try and balance on a very thin rim with a lift up seat?
Surely they would just work out the need to sit and if they didn’t fancy sitting, the natural alternative would be to hover over it.

You might think that it's obvious what to do, but here is clear evidence that it isn't as obvious as you think. Expressing disbelief at her phenomenal stupidity is, perhaps, not the way to go here...

katepilar · 19/03/2025 22:49

Mischance · 19/03/2025 21:32

If you squat on it (as per pic) surely you piss or shit on your legs/feet -- that is gross.

And how the hell do they get up there/balance for a long hard log exiting?

No.

100PercentFaithful · 19/03/2025 22:48

ChompandaGrazia · 19/03/2025 22:46

DP’s cousin struggled to use western toilets, if you went to another country with unfamiliar toilets you’d be the same.

Quite. All these people who are shocked that anyone does this but equally shocked at the existence of squat toilets. What would you do with faced with a squat toilet if you had no idea such a thing existed.

I think it would be pretty obvious to work out I needed to squat over it!
Infact I think that’s exactly what happened when I first encountered one. I didn’t sit on the floor!
Most people are intelligent enough to reason it out.

DonnaDonna0 · 19/03/2025 22:48

Our toilets aren’t meant to be stood on.
It doesn’t matter what people are use to in their home country, their toilet facilities are different to ours.
I really can’t understand why anyone would stand on a toilet seat, it’s obvious that this could cause damage and/or injury.
Either signs or HR.

SpringIsNearlySpringing · 19/03/2025 22:48

StumbleInTheDebris · 19/03/2025 22:31

This has never happened to me but I've always had regular bad dreams about this situation. Needing the loo then going and then realising there are no walls or you're in public somehow.

You beat me to it. I was going to reply I have bad dreams exactly like that. Bursting for the loo and the only ones are ‘communal’ 😱😭😭😭

ChompandaGrazia · 19/03/2025 22:46

DP’s cousin struggled to use western toilets, if you went to another country with unfamiliar toilets you’d be the same.

Quite. All these people who are shocked that anyone does this but equally shocked at the existence of squat toilets. What would you do with faced with a squat toilet if you had no idea such a thing existed.

100PercentFaithful · 19/03/2025 22:46

Having just been pondering this interesting thread whilst going to the loo, I do wonder why people would actually balance on the seat.
It’s pretty obvious that’s not the thing to do.
If I were unexpectedly to encounter a floor level toilet I wouldn’t think I should actually sit on the floor to use it.
Why wouldn’t someone just naturally work out they needed to sit on a raised toilet rather than try and balance on a very thin rim with a lift up seat?
Surely they would just work out the need to sit and if they didn’t fancy sitting, the natural alternative would be to hover over it.

RaininSummer · 19/03/2025 22:45

Sure its a cultural thing but it isn't British culture and our loos are not designed for it. I'm not a sensitive soul re hygiene but I wouldnt want to sit where their shoes had been. Also its a heath and safety issue as isn't it a bit acrobatic to blance on a possibly wobbley, weak loo seat?

TeaRoseTallulah · 19/03/2025 22:44

Crazyworksituatio · 19/03/2025 20:42

Really do you not think this is unhygienic? Not being sarcastic, I'm just interested to understand the viewpoint where this is a reasonable thing to do for the next user of the toilet.

Toilet seats are gross at the best of times with or without shoes. It's just different to what you're used to. I never sit anyway in public loos.

FurFangsPawsAndClaws · 19/03/2025 22:43

It’s a serious health and safety risk.

My DP is Asian and when we first started seeing each other his cousin visited my house and tried to do this on my toilet seat.

My toilet seat was loose and broke completely with the weight, he went flying forward and knocked himself out, that was a fun afternoon.

Is it possible you can talk to this lady one to one and say you are aware this is happening and you are worried about her safety. Be matter of fact so it’s not embarrassing and don’t skirt around things. Ask what you can do to make her feel more comfortable but make sure she knows you will be discreet and the conversation will go no further.

You could offer a squatty potty as mentioned above, is there anywhere private to keep it in the toilets? (I’m not familiar with them as DP uses the toilet as intended!)

Is she washing afterwards? You can get a portable bum washer off TEMU or Amazon, we have a bidet attachment at home that’s discreet and fitted into the toilet seat.

I know it’s an awkward conversation but it’ll be more awkward if she hurts herself, every time she stands on that toilet seat it’ll be loosening and she might be adept at keeping balance but not if the seat moves suddenly.

Don’t put up a sign, she’s going to know it’s directed at her and would you want it bringing to everyone’s attention? It sounds like you are genuinely looking for a diplomatic solution and to be discreet which will be appreciated.

DP’s cousin struggled to use western toilets, if you went to another country with unfamiliar toilets you’d be the same. DP takes the attitude he lives here so he follows our customs but he appreciated the bidet so much because it’s what he’s used too. I couldn’t be without it now, it’s so much more hygienic!

Don’t risk a serious injury over a possibly awkward conversation, the conversation will be over quickly but if this lady hurts herself the implications will be far longer lasting.

As for people commenting about the hygiene aspect, it’s not pleasant to sit on a toilet that’s been stood on, if there is no other solution can you at least get seat covers? If the aim isn’t accurate it can be messy as well.

Emptyandsad · 19/03/2025 22:41

ShockedandStunnedRepeatedly · 19/03/2025 21:12

Think two holes in the ground . A la 1980s French camping holidays as a child…

2 holes?

There's no way of dealing with this in a way that won't cause embarrassment to the poor woman, but it does have to be dealt with, I think, otherwise it is likely to blow up as an issue in the office.

I think the kindest way is for HR to have a very discreet and gentle word with her

holycrumpet · 19/03/2025 22:40

Oh god. I used to work somewhere lots of people used to do it.

The seats used to get broken SO often, that the company (global company!) had a squat toilet installed!

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 19/03/2025 22:39

Crazyworksituatio · 19/03/2025 20:35

Help! I've no idea how to deal with this without offending. Since a new female employee has started working with us there are shoe prints on toilet seat. It's a corporate office but only a few females use this toilet so obvious who the culprit is. The lady is from India and new to country. She's very professional and I think this is a cultural difference but I'm horrified she thinks this is ok? What would you do??

We had this at our work. Very common in some countries. Company had to put heir foot down after too many broken toilet seats.

Why are you horrified - such hyperbole.

Calm down and mention it to HR about a health risk.

You are horrified about this when I have seen all kinds on women’s toilet seats - pee, poo, volition, blood.

Calm down and deal with it like a grown up.

tachetastic · 19/03/2025 22:36

Crazyworksituatio · 19/03/2025 20:35

Help! I've no idea how to deal with this without offending. Since a new female employee has started working with us there are shoe prints on toilet seat. It's a corporate office but only a few females use this toilet so obvious who the culprit is. The lady is from India and new to country. She's very professional and I think this is a cultural difference but I'm horrified she thinks this is ok? What would you do??

I am 50 years old, have several degrees, have held down many jobs and have lived in three countries and before tonight I never knew this was a thing.

We're all learning.

Devianinc · 19/03/2025 22:36

As long as she’s hitting the mark and it’s not all over the place I don’t really know what you can do. Maybe put a sign up to please wipe foot prints off toilet seats. Lol

WearyAuldWumman · 19/03/2025 22:33

StumbleInTheDebris · 19/03/2025 22:31

This has never happened to me but I've always had regular bad dreams about this situation. Needing the loo then going and then realising there are no walls or you're in public somehow.

I had the dreams beforehand...you can imagine the effect of meeting the situation in real life!

FrodoBiggins · 19/03/2025 22:32

RatedDoingMagic · 19/03/2025 22:30

Universities with a lot of overseas students have notices in every cubicle explaining how to use british-style toilets. Some countries mainly have squat-toilets and they are used to a completely different position. No judgement, just a lack of info.

The office should buy a stool like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Foldable-7inches-Bathroom-Squatting-Anti-Slip/dp/B0B174QP14/
to enable her to get a comfy position (can be left in the appropriate area. No instructions needed) and signs like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samuliy-Toilet-Squat-Warning-Stickers/dp/B0D5VJTZ9T
for each cubicle.

"Normal" in some countries is a very low toilet bowl that you are supposed to straddle and squat over, no sitting. If that's what you're used to our toilets seem unreasonably high and the idea of sitting on them seems gross.

Edited

AFAIK it's not just more comfortable it significantly reduces your chances of getting bowel cancer

StumbleInTheDebris · 19/03/2025 22:31

WearyAuldWumman · 19/03/2025 22:16

Some of my fellow students from Glasgow Uni did their Russian placement at Voronezh Uni.

One lad had us in hysterics in the common room one day, recounting the time he had Voronezh tummy and had to use the hostel loos urgently. He landed the one with the broken lock.

The loos there were bricked around. He described trying to balance, whilst holding onto his trousers and his dignity and trying to hold the door shut with one leg...

Believe you me, when you were heading to the Soviet Union for a placement, one of the first things you did was to check whether any of the older students could tell you what the loos were like.

My first time, a group of us were in Krasnodar during the 1980 Olympics. We were taken on an excursion to the Russian Black Sea resort of Gelendzhik.

We were taken for lunch in a restaurant. Afterwards, there was the usual queue at the ladies'. There were only two, we were told.

As we waited in line, we asked the first girls to come out "Are they proper toilets?"

They nodded in affirmation, but had a weird look on their face.

When it came to my turn I got there the same time as a rather posh spoken middle-aged lady who was there as a mature student.

We entered. The toilets were indeed 'proper toilets' and beautifully clean.

Instead of a door, each toilet had what appeared to be a transparent pink shower curtain. There was wall between the toilets - only a three inch high pink porcelain divider.

I looked at it dumbly, wondering what to do. My companion went ahead so I followed.

I tried to look straight ahead, but then heard the mature student intoning: "Well, it's certainly one way of getting to know your fellow traveller!"

This has never happened to me but I've always had regular bad dreams about this situation. Needing the loo then going and then realising there are no walls or you're in public somehow.

ChompandaGrazia · 19/03/2025 22:31

Jabberwok · 19/03/2025 22:22

They are still common in France and also called Turkish

I used one in Santorini only a couple of years ago!

RatedDoingMagic · 19/03/2025 22:30

Universities with a lot of overseas students have notices in every cubicle explaining how to use british-style toilets. Some countries mainly have squat-toilets and they are used to a completely different position. No judgement, just a lack of info.

The office should buy a stool like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Foldable-7inches-Bathroom-Squatting-Anti-Slip/dp/B0B174QP14/
to enable her to get a comfy position (can be left in the appropriate area. No instructions needed) and signs like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samuliy-Toilet-Squat-Warning-Stickers/dp/B0D5VJTZ9T
for each cubicle.

"Normal" in some countries is a very low toilet bowl that you are supposed to straddle and squat over, no sitting. If that's what you're used to our toilets seem unreasonably high and the idea of sitting on them seems gross.

Pigeonqueen · 19/03/2025 22:30

I have literally never, ever heard of anyone squatting on a toilet like this. Just seems incredibly unsafe balance wise! Would never occur to me that someone would do this. I’ve clearly had a sheltered 44 years!

WearyAuldWumman · 19/03/2025 22:30

Tiddlywinkly · 19/03/2025 22:19

This. I work in a uni and we get this every new academic year. We also have signs that say sanitary bins are for sanitary products only as in some countries, used toilet tissue is not put down the toilet, but in a bin.

That's a good point. The facilities in our student accommodation in Russia had plastic, open weave baskets.

Yeuch.

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