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To not use proper spellings when naming your child

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Catterpillarsflipflops · 19/03/2025 18:17

Am I being unreasonable to think it's ridiculous to use a funky spelling of a normal name. I spent today dealing with lost paperwork for a child as the person that took the details didn't think to check the spelling as there is no other spelling of the name.

It looks silly and just causes no end of problems for the child. It also disadvantages them as straight away people get an image of what the child is like.

I've seen

Jaymz
Ezmay
Lil-leigh

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OchonAgusOchonOh · 20/03/2025 09:06

MidnightMillie · 20/03/2025 01:32

Yes, Cork.

They couldn't have heard an Irish pronunciation and spelt it like that if they're Irish as there is no r in Siobhán. So either the parents were English, heard an English person pronouncing it or whichever of them heard it had hearing difficulties.

CrystalSingerFan · 20/03/2025 09:05

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 20/03/2025 08:48

Our DS's name is Pledge - it's like Barry, but it's polish.

Took me a while, but I got it! Need more coffee... 😂

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 20/03/2025 09:03

Greentrilby · 20/03/2025 08:18

I hope this hasn’t been said before …..
but can this thread be added to Classics simply because of @tulippa
she’s a ledjund.

Ledjund is the Norwegian version of Linda.

CrystalSingerFan · 20/03/2025 08:57

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 20/03/2025 08:32

Not to derail, but Schopenhauer always makes me think of QVC!

Interesting! When I Googled "Schopenhauer QVC", the AI looked like it was trying to work a connection out but then gave up and said: "An AI Overview is not available for this search" 😥

I'm guessing that you're making some punning connection with Schop/shop? Or a more carefully thought out link with the basic tenets of his philosophy? Along the lines of "the world is driven by an insatiable, blind "will to live," leading to constant striving, suffering, and ultimately, the futility of existence." I'd love to know.... 😋

SnoozingFox · 20/03/2025 08:50

Does anyone REALLY have a problem with parents choosing Huw not Hugh, or Ana not Anna, or Oleksandr not Alexander (or indeed, Kacper not Casper)? I mean, I'd roll my eyes at an Oleksandr whose parents had never left the suburb they had been born in and had no family connections overseas.

Or a problem coming across names like Zimchikachim or Trayaksh which are clearly reflective of the parents' heritage or ethnicity. (both real names given to boys in Scotland, google tells me the first is a common name in Igbo, the second in Sanskrit).

The issue is people who take a standard name like Alastair and spell it Alyster, or Archie and spell it Artchie, or Rory and spell it Roraigh. (again, all real names from the Scottish list).

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 20/03/2025 08:48

Our DS's name is Pledge - it's like Barry, but it's polish.

Americano75 · 20/03/2025 08:37

Recently seen an Oliviah and an Avah which is just so beyond stupid.

googleyourheartout · 20/03/2025 08:37

MidnightMillie · 19/03/2025 18:56

I wouldn't assume that.

I'm Irish and for many years a lot of us have been moving away from Gaelic spellings.

I have a cousin named Shinaed and she's in her late 40s.

That’s just wrong plain and simple.

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 20/03/2025 08:35

villanova · 19/03/2025 23:36

Had a friend whose mum only found out, later in life, when she got her first passport, that her name wasn't Tina, but actually Tena on her birth certificate.

Does she wonder why everybody she meets (over a certain age) sings the Tom Jones song to her "Wo, wo, wo, she's a lady!" ?!

BeholdOurButterStinketh · 20/03/2025 08:32

CrystalSingerFan · 19/03/2025 23:23

I don't get a chance to share this often, but God bless Mumsnetters.

"[Arthur] Schopenhauer’s father carefully chose his son’s first name on account of its identical spelling in German, French and English." Who knew?

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/schopenhauer/

Not to derail, but Schopenhauer always makes me think of QVC!

Hollowvoice · 20/03/2025 08:31

I have RTFT and I have learned Kacper wants to change his name. Possibly to Ajay.

Swonderful · 20/03/2025 08:24

My kids have completely normal names but many teachers still pronounce them wrong!

Greentrilby · 20/03/2025 08:18

I hope this hasn’t been said before …..
but can this thread be added to Classics simply because of @tulippa
she’s a ledjund.

gannett · 20/03/2025 08:13

The trouble with mocking others for perceived ignorance is that most posters are just revealing their own ignorance about how languages, naming conventions and formal spelling rules have evolved. Yes, "Jaymz" gave me pause as well while I tried to work out what it was, but you'd be shocked at how many "normal" spellings were originally mistakes. Imogen springs to mind - it's a misspelling of the original Innogen. Curtis was brought up earlier - it derives from "courteous" so perhaps "Coeurtis" is closer to the original than we think?

The list of "correctly" spelled English words that have been mangled over the centuries, or from whatever original language we nicked them from, could fill this entire board.

(However in the spirit of the thread, while this has obvious class connotations in the UK, I've noticed deliberately-misspelled names is a huge thing in Australia, where it seems to cut across all class divides, and have always wondered why.)

Delphin · 20/03/2025 08:09

@Perculiar " I’m mostly baffled by Abigayil"
That spelling looks like the parents wanted to keep the Hebrew pronounciation of the name, where "-gail" is two syllables "ga-yil".

I am in my mid-50s and only two days ago I heard my name pronounced properly for the first time 💜 (my phone (!!) has a new ringtone, that reads out the entry of the caller in your addressbook, and I called from my mobile to test it). It's Brazilian and ends with a d, so "-dji", while everyone just says "-d".

Mookie81 · 20/03/2025 08:08

tulippa · 20/03/2025 07:54

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new yesterday. 🙂

Now read the thread, you're being a good sport @tulippa 😊

Miaowzabella · 20/03/2025 08:06

BinChicken1 · 19/03/2025 18:40

There’s no law around this I don’t think? I don’t think the registrar can do anything about it?

I’m sure France has laws around this. I don’t think it’s a bad thing at all.

You'd think they could at least take a stance against punctuation marks and capital letters in the middle of a name. Calling a child D'Zheim'z is really not in his interest or anyone else's.

HurdyGurdy19 · 20/03/2025 08:06

I often wonder what is behind the spellings of names, as phonetically, they are just the same as conventionally spelled named.

I have visions of parents in the parks calling their children to come back to them - "James, spelled J-A-Y-M-Z, come here please".

I feel for the poor children, having to go through life constantly correcting the spelling of what should be a straightforward name

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/03/2025 08:00

Mama2many73 · 20/03/2025 07:46

We foster and have had children with very unusual names . We were told in our training that parents in these cases often choose an unusual name to help 'find' the child at a later date.
It's scary, and very real, to know that parents who could be dangerous can find you x x you do what you need yo keep your DC safe ❤️

Frightening also that these people take into account the possibility of searching for their children in the care system as soon as they are born when they name them.

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/03/2025 07:58

Mydadsbirthday · 20/03/2025 07:29

@Notsosure1 but those aren't "unique" spellings of the kind people are talking about in this thread.
Huw is the Welsh spelling of Hugh for example, not someone trying to be different!
Leslie and Lesley are the male and female spellings of the same name respectively.

Some of your other examples are just personal preferences eg. "ie" instead of "y" which is pretty inoffensive rather than the frankly ridiculous spoiling of perfectly good names like Jacob - JayCub?!!

There is no doubt in my mind that the parents who name kids things like this are the ones causing havoc at the school gates, picking fights with teachers and generally being a PITA.

I agree although I have to say that the Jaymz I taught was a lovely boy with very nice parents. I wouldn't necessarily expect it but I wouldn't be surprised if they were rule breakers in other ways than spelling.

tulippa · 20/03/2025 07:54

Mookie81 · 20/03/2025 06:42

That's an eastern European spelling. So let's keep this to actually ridiculous spellings, and not display ignorance towards other cultures?

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new yesterday. 🙂

MellowPinkDeer · 20/03/2025 07:46

All terrible spelling does is make the parents looks stupid and the child sound common. must be horrible to spend your life spelling out you name too!

Don’t just change a ‘y’ to an ‘ie’ to be different , I also dislike it when people essentially call their kids almost identical names but switch the y and ie in!

Mama2many73 · 20/03/2025 07:46

Rufus27 · 19/03/2025 18:36

There may be more to it. One of my DC has a v unusual name. We adopted DC as a baby, weren’t allowed to change the first name, but knew it made DC v identifiable (birth family are potentially dangerous) so we decided to change the spelling to something ‘unique’ but safe. I expect we are judged but, if it keeps DC safe, I don’t care.

I can think of at least four other instances I know of locally where this has occurred for adoption related reasons; one of the changed spellings is similar to one you quote in your OP.

We foster and have had children with very unusual names . We were told in our training that parents in these cases often choose an unusual name to help 'find' the child at a later date.
It's scary, and very real, to know that parents who could be dangerous can find you x x you do what you need yo keep your DC safe ❤️

RominaDina · 20/03/2025 07:44

Also....do these posters think that no-one else has spotted it in 12 hours??🙄

RominaDina · 20/03/2025 07:43

@Namechangetry 😂😂😂

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