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What is your household income, how much is benefits, and how are you coping?

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Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:16

Genuinely curious after so many threads on here about benefit changes. Please feel free to name change!

I’ll start:

Salaries for both of us total 90k. Only benefits are £102 month child benefit, though we also get tax-free childcare and 15hrs free at nursery.

Total income is about 6k a month, mortgage and bills 3k, nursery 1k, commuting costs £500, groceries cost £500, husband pays CMS and other bits to his children totalling about £500 leaving us about £500 for everything else.

Feels like we’re constantly penny-pinching.

OP posts:
Cholulita · 19/03/2025 12:29

Cholulita · 19/03/2025 12:24

Household about 56k plus 170 CB.

Mortgage 2100
CT 250
Car etc 200
Energy bills about 250
Food 100 - 300 depending on if we are being careful.

We really, really struggle.

Oh I forgot the water and car insurance and stuff. I wondered why I was so skint.

frillygillymilly · 19/03/2025 12:29

Also a massive part of disposable income is when & if you bought. An income of 90k if you bought decades ago will go a lot further than a couple trying to rent today.

LBFseBrom · 19/03/2025 12:29

£500 a month after you've paid everything is not bad. I wouldn't call that penny pinching. You can buy clothes and go out on that.

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 12:29

frillygillymilly · 19/03/2025 12:27

@HerOopNorth how have you worked that out? 2 people on 45k will take home 3k before any pension or student loan deductions

when I read the first post she said a combined income of £90K. It didn't break it down into who earned what.

Money saving Expert gives the £7500 figure but clearly that is for one earner.

That's why I asked what the income split was. Still no info on that from her.

Student loans- she's not mentioned.

JHound · 19/03/2025 12:28

Your income sounds good - that must be the tax applicability. My gross salary is 90k a year (not including bonus) but after pension and other deductions my take home is about 4600 a month.

Single woman, no kids / no partner so obviously no benefits. Obviously not “struggling” but far from wealthy and need to budget very carefully each month. Definitely don’t feel as rich as I imagined I would feel when I earned a fraction of this salary! I cannot afford to travel much - just about 1 trip a year overseas mainly weekend somewhere in Europe.

Rent and fixed expenses are about 2000 per month. Currently spend 400 on average a month on groceries but trying to reduce that dramatically. Now finally debt free for the first time in my life since 19 so that’s good.

ZigZagJigsaw · 19/03/2025 12:28

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:53

Our “luxury” is DH’s children, really. We have to stay in an expensive area to be close to them, we have to pay CMS, we have to have a big enough house and car for them. We can’t cut back on any of their costs so here we are.

I guess a few years ago I’d have thought our salaries would mean having a far higher quality of life.

Children are expensive and the nursery years are tough financially.

I guess, as you are supporting more children than average, then earning 90k between you isn’t going to afford you a better quality of life than average quality of life. And by average quality of life, I mean you can afford day to day expenses but luxuries are limited.

How about applying for jobs on a higher salary? Would that give you a bit more headway?

I became a single parent unexpectedly when DD was 11 and it took me a couple of years of study, exams and promotions to get to a point where we could easily afford luxuries again.

rosemarble · 19/03/2025 12:27

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:23

£160k household income with two kids is about the top 10% of households.

Oh, I got that stat by a crude Google.

"With a salary of £160,000, you are likely in the top 1% of earners in the UK.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Top 1% Threshold:
To be considered in the top 1% of income earners in the UK, you generally need a personal taxable income of around £160,000."

I'm not sure how the number of children impacts where you place on household income.

frillygillymilly · 19/03/2025 12:27

@HerOopNorth how have you worked that out? 2 people on 45k will take home 3k before any pension or student loan deductions

BeHere · 19/03/2025 12:27

It's actually quite reasonable that people have noticed their income, whatever it is, doesn't buy what it would've done a few years back.

frillygillymilly · 19/03/2025 12:26

Wanting a ‘better quality of life’ on 90k is ridiculous. If you want a ‘better quality of life (whatever that means) then make changes, move, smaller mortgage etc. You are better off than most people in the uk. It’s not about your QOL, it’s about your choices

The old race to the bottom.

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 12:26

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:16

Genuinely curious after so many threads on here about benefit changes. Please feel free to name change!

I’ll start:

Salaries for both of us total 90k. Only benefits are £102 month child benefit, though we also get tax-free childcare and 15hrs free at nursery.

Total income is about 6k a month, mortgage and bills 3k, nursery 1k, commuting costs £500, groceries cost £500, husband pays CMS and other bits to his children totalling about £500 leaving us about £500 for everything else.

Feels like we’re constantly penny-pinching.

Total net income on £90K is around 7,500 pm.

Unless one of you is a higher tax payer and the other much lower. Like 70/20 split.

Your main extra outgoings are commuting and his other children (which is not an insignificant amount) .

How much is your mortgage and how much are 'bills'?

If you're paying subs for TV, phones, gym etc, that will all add up and aren't 'essentials.

2024onwardsandup · 19/03/2025 12:25

How’s you husbands ex going with his £500 I wonder when you’re struggling on £5500…

frillygillymilly · 19/03/2025 12:25

90k is the equivalent to 72k in 2020 & 59k in 2010.

Wage stagnation & inflation plus frozen tax bands have really done a number

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:25

MellowPinkDeer · 19/03/2025 12:23

We have 4, I have 2, he has 2 :)

I agree on paper it should be loads , but it doesn’t feel like loads anymore and I guess that is what the OP was about

I know - I was just replying to the statement you were in the top 1%, as you aren’t.

With four kids that makes you in the top ~18% of households.

JessieLongleg · 19/03/2025 12:24

Ilovecakey · 19/03/2025 12:16

Why don't you get benefits for your son if you're only on 10k?

Apparently I'm not allowed on legacy benefits, the DWP operative laughed at me for even asking. I rang CA for a household support grant they have all gone. They went through my benefits and no entitlement to anymore. I'm not having more than one child have a SCI I can't cope with more than one by myself. Im 44 unfortunately I couldn't wait till back at work. As have no idea if I will be able to. It 12pm already the spine migraine has started, feet are going numb.

Cholulita · 19/03/2025 12:24

Household about 56k plus 170 CB.

Mortgage 2100
CT 250
Car etc 200
Energy bills about 250
Food 100 - 300 depending on if we are being careful.

We really, really struggle.

MellowPinkDeer · 19/03/2025 12:23

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:23

£160k household income with two kids is about the top 10% of households.

We have 4, I have 2, he has 2 :)

I agree on paper it should be loads , but it doesn’t feel like loads anymore and I guess that is what the OP was about

Roseyposey11 · 19/03/2025 12:23

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:41

Not looking for sympathy, but I’d have expected a better lifestyle on 90k.

We get by but can’t afford holidays or to get my hair dyed at a salon. MOT months are very stressful (car is seven years old). Clothes are mostly second hand from Vinted.

Kindly, I’d delete this post. Wanting a ‘better quality of life’ on 90k is ridiculous. If you want a ‘better quality of life (whatever that means) then make changes, move, smaller mortgage etc. You are better off than most people in the uk. It’s not about your QOL, it’s about your choices

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:23

rosemarble · 19/03/2025 12:20

You're in the top 1% of earners in the country and it sounds like you're spending within those means - large mortgage, large family, cars for children.
People spending to the limit of their income are indeed noticing that costs have gone up.
I would argue that people earning so much should have created a big financial 'just in case' buffer so that they could absorb the rising COL costs.

£160k household income with two kids is about the top 10% of households.

MellowPinkDeer · 19/03/2025 12:22

rosemarble · 19/03/2025 12:20

You're in the top 1% of earners in the country and it sounds like you're spending within those means - large mortgage, large family, cars for children.
People spending to the limit of their income are indeed noticing that costs have gone up.
I would argue that people earning so much should have created a big financial 'just in case' buffer so that they could absorb the rising COL costs.

Our mortgage increased by 1k overnight when our term ran out. We didn’t see such a huge increase coming when we moved into the house, we did have a buffer and still do so and I’m starting a higher paid job soon. We are lucky but as the OP originally said - I did think I’d ’feel Rich’ when I was younger at this point!

MurdoMunro · 19/03/2025 12:21

55K total household income, partner disabled but not enough to qualify for benefits he’s self employed and PT plus house husbandry. Mortgage 800, food, energy, car etc same as everyone. Used to foster but they’re all grown up now, support some of them when we can (deposits, first month rent, those sorts of things). We get by but it would be great if I could get back to relative wage value of about 10 years ago before stagnation and inflation bulges.

rosemarble · 19/03/2025 12:20

MellowPinkDeer · 19/03/2025 12:10

I do agree to an extent OP , our income is around 160k . But with a mortgage of over 3k per month, over 800 going out in CMS and still having to have enough room in houses and cars for the step kids we don’t have loads of disposable income anymore. When I was younger I’d think this was ‘rich’ but it isn’t when you have a large family and the cost of things now. We do also have to watch spending a lot closer than we used to. I think everyone does because whatever your lifestyle is , it costs more now than it ever did!

You're in the top 1% of earners in the country and it sounds like you're spending within those means - large mortgage, large family, cars for children.
People spending to the limit of their income are indeed noticing that costs have gone up.
I would argue that people earning so much should have created a big financial 'just in case' buffer so that they could absorb the rising COL costs.

LilacPeer · 19/03/2025 12:18

Single parent to 3.

Salary £1350 (Monthly)
CMS £648 (Monthly)
Child Benefit £238 (4 Weekly)
Universal Credit £1610 (Monthly)

Rent is £1300

Jessica5678 · 19/03/2025 12:17

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 12:08

I had more disposable income as a student than I do now! More holidays, more expensive clothes. I got max loan, a scholarship and had a part time job.

Of course you did - you presumably didn’t have children, didn’t own a property and were living in a houseshare or the like. Plus you were living off loans from the taxpayer, which require paying back.

It’s a bit crass complaining that making choices to own an expensive house and have multiple children and have other nice things is expensive. There was nothing stopping you being single, living in a house share in a cheaper area, not having children and instead having money for haircuts and holidays.

You can’t have everything.

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:16

I’m in London and have about £8k a month of direct debits at the moment.

~£3k in mortgage
~£4k in childcare
~£1k in household bills inc council tax, energy, water, internet, insurances etc

Our household income looks very high but our outgoings are astronomical.

I thought we would buy a bigger house at some point but even less the childcare costs at this level, the mortgage would just be too ridiculously huge.

In terms of benefits received - just the 15 hours.