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What is your household income, how much is benefits, and how are you coping?

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Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:16

Genuinely curious after so many threads on here about benefit changes. Please feel free to name change!

I’ll start:

Salaries for both of us total 90k. Only benefits are £102 month child benefit, though we also get tax-free childcare and 15hrs free at nursery.

Total income is about 6k a month, mortgage and bills 3k, nursery 1k, commuting costs £500, groceries cost £500, husband pays CMS and other bits to his children totalling about £500 leaving us about £500 for everything else.

Feels like we’re constantly penny-pinching.

OP posts:
JHound · 19/03/2025 13:25

CoralOP · 19/03/2025 13:14

My little cousin is just buying her first house.
It's a lovely new build for £120k.
He morgage was around £700 a month if I remember correctly.
It goes without saying lots of young people are struggling to buy in expensive areas but there's still plenty of places they can buy at a lower cost.

I wish I lived somewhere the housing was that cheap! I would have to retrain and shift industry though.

Digdongdoo · 19/03/2025 13:25

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:21

I mean, he’s on 45k, that’s 50% higher than the average salary. But he doesn’t get any of the child related benefits as his ex is the resident parent (4 nights vs 3 each week).

Sounds like he needs to work a bit harder to support all his children. That's not a high income for 3+ kids at all. Perhaps he can seek a promotion, or a second job on the days he doesn't have his kids?

Redhairandhottubs · 19/03/2025 13:24

75k, take home after pensions is 4k. Single adult with young adult DC (1 still at home). Bills come to about 2k, food about £500. I'm in a much better positon now than I ever have been, but that is because my DC are older and I've progressed in my career as they became less dependent on me.

thecherryfox · 19/03/2025 13:23

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:53

Our “luxury” is DH’s children, really. We have to stay in an expensive area to be close to them, we have to pay CMS, we have to have a big enough house and car for them. We can’t cut back on any of their costs so here we are.

I guess a few years ago I’d have thought our salaries would mean having a far higher quality of life.

Don’t marry someone with children if you resent having to pay for those children. Him paying to his children is not a luxury, it’s a standard of living.

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:22

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:21

I mean, he’s on 45k, that’s 50% higher than the average salary. But he doesn’t get any of the child related benefits as his ex is the resident parent (4 nights vs 3 each week).

He's not on anything like 50% higher.

ONS

Median gross annual earnings for full-time employees were £37,430 in April 2024, compared with £35,004 in April 2023, an increase of 6.9%.29 Oct 2024

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:22

Silentdream · 19/03/2025 13:19

I think people often don’t realise just how much higher earners have to pay out without getting anything in return.

I earn a decent salary so have never received a penny in benefits other than 15 hours funded nursery for just over a year as that is universally available to all. I don’t qualify for child benefit, tax free childcare or any other benefits.

I do however pay income tax rates of up to 60% as I receive no personal allowance. I also have no allowance for tax free interest on savings outside of ISAs meaning I lose 45% of all interest earned.

I once received a £20k bonus and didn’t benefit by a single penny due to sky high marginal tax rates plus loss of nursery funded hours and tax free childcare.

I’m not after sympathy but people need to appreciate that many of those who are bankrolling the majority are being forced into situations where it really isn’t worth earning more and in fact in many cases makes sense to earn less.

It’s a ridiculous system that does that and if it doesn’t change the pressure on those relying on benefits will get a whole lot worse. If I earn a 20k bonus I’d accept keeping 10k and giving 10k to claimants however the system required me to give it all to claimants. Why would I bother to earn it under such circumstances?

Agree, if it wasn’t for SC we would leave the country and be paid far more elsewhere.

OP posts:
JHound · 19/03/2025 13:21

Silentdream · 19/03/2025 13:19

I think people often don’t realise just how much higher earners have to pay out without getting anything in return.

I earn a decent salary so have never received a penny in benefits other than 15 hours funded nursery for just over a year as that is universally available to all. I don’t qualify for child benefit, tax free childcare or any other benefits.

I do however pay income tax rates of up to 60% as I receive no personal allowance. I also have no allowance for tax free interest on savings outside of ISAs meaning I lose 45% of all interest earned.

I once received a £20k bonus and didn’t benefit by a single penny due to sky high marginal tax rates plus loss of nursery funded hours and tax free childcare.

I’m not after sympathy but people need to appreciate that many of those who are bankrolling the majority are being forced into situations where it really isn’t worth earning more and in fact in many cases makes sense to earn less.

It’s a ridiculous system that does that and if it doesn’t change the pressure on those relying on benefits will get a whole lot worse. If I earn a 20k bonus I’d accept keeping 10k and giving 10k to claimants however the system required me to give it all to claimants. Why would I bother to earn it under such circumstances?

I also don’t get the sneering at high earners given they bankroll the government spending people are demanding more of.

LilacPeer · 19/03/2025 13:21

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:15

This is why the country's in a mess.

Edited

Because I claim for help with my living expenses after being left to raise four children when my husband had an affair? Possibly. I don't think I can take responsibility for the country's economy, but happy to shoulder my portion.

If I could have access to cheaper housing, I could pay my own way. But as it is, I'm stuck.

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:21

thecherryfox · 19/03/2025 13:19

It’s so degrading watching people saying they’re struggling on £6k a month. Firstly you own your home, you're not poor. Secondly mortgage and bills at £3k, you likely have a lovely home and what have nice car payments or top of the range phones etc? Most people have to have less than £3k for EVERYTHING.

Kindly, you are ignoring a lot of facts like the cost of housing in some areas. They don't own a home- it's mortgaged.
You know nothing about the age or type of car or their phones.

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:21

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:18

The issue is a man on a relatively low income, supporting a lot of children- how many? 3? 4 ? 5 ?

I mean, he’s on 45k, that’s 50% higher than the average salary. But he doesn’t get any of the child related benefits as his ex is the resident parent (4 nights vs 3 each week).

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MillicentFaucet · 19/03/2025 13:21

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:10

You’re right, I worry about pensions. Mine isn’t bad (used to work in public sector until I was made redundant) but DH has barely anything. Right now we just can’t afford to pay more though.

At least it's on your radar and you know you'll need to sort it as a priority when funds allow.

thecherryfox · 19/03/2025 13:19

It’s so degrading watching people saying they’re struggling on £6k a month. Firstly you own your home, you're not poor. Secondly mortgage and bills at £3k, you likely have a lovely home and what have nice car payments or top of the range phones etc? Most people have to have less than £3k for EVERYTHING.

Silentdream · 19/03/2025 13:19

I think people often don’t realise just how much higher earners have to pay out without getting anything in return.

I earn a decent salary so have never received a penny in benefits other than 15 hours funded nursery for just over a year as that is universally available to all. I don’t qualify for child benefit, tax free childcare or any other benefits.

I do however pay income tax rates of up to 60% as I receive no personal allowance. I also have no allowance for tax free interest on savings outside of ISAs meaning I lose 45% of all interest earned.

I once received a £20k bonus and didn’t benefit by a single penny due to sky high marginal tax rates plus loss of nursery funded hours and tax free childcare.

I’m not after sympathy but people need to appreciate that many of those who are bankrolling the majority are being forced into situations where it really isn’t worth earning more and in fact in many cases makes sense to earn less.

It’s a ridiculous system that does that and if it doesn’t change the pressure on those relying on benefits will get a whole lot worse. If I earn a 20k bonus I’d accept keeping 10k and giving 10k to claimants however the system required me to give it all to claimants. Why would I bother to earn it under such circumstances?

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 13:18

Blondiebeachbabe · 19/03/2025 13:13

I think it's due to your outgoings, isn't it?

DH and I bring in £95k between us : about £5500pm. Our mortgage is only £235pm, so that, plus all other bills, totals about £1300, then we need food on top.

We drive second hand cars that are 9 & 11 years old, and all paid for, so no car loans. Even though the cars are 13 & 15 plates, they are lovely. Don't see any need for a new car.

When the kids were in Nursery, I was only bringing home £140 a month after fees paid. It's such an expensive time! Kids are adults now, and financially independent.

Hang on in there, it will get better in time. I would project forward to when yours are in school and his older kids are 18 and see what the figures look like - you should be really well off.

I genuinely hope we never get to a position where the amount our mortgage costs seems as low as two hundred and odd quid does to us now.

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:18

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:18

I guess mine is a cautionary tale against getting together with a single parent.

The issue is a man on a relatively low income, supporting a lot of children- how many? 3? 4 ? 5 ?

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:18

Ritzybitzy · 19/03/2025 13:11

Your issue is not your income. Your issue is your OH decided to have more kids than he can afford.

I guess mine is a cautionary tale against getting together with a single parent.

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TheAmusedQuail · 19/03/2025 13:18

40K before tax. Paid my mortgage (modest terraced house) off last year which has eased things up quite a lot.

Try to save around £400 a month as house needs around 20K of work doing to it for maintenance rather than titivation.

Old car. Hair cut 4 X a year. Private tutor for my son once a week. Will increase this as he gets older.

I survive on a lowish income but have savings so don't worry too much. I'm happy being frugal. Don't really buy clothes/make up.

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:17

Gogogo12345 · 19/03/2025 13:14

Well that depends when you bought it doesn't it? I bought my first 2 bed flat in London for 35k back in 1993

How relevant is what you paid 30+ years ago?

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:15

LilacPeer · 19/03/2025 13:10

Yes, its more than my wage.

I had no idea how much it was until my husband left, had no experience of benefits prior to that. It includes an £800 contribution to my rent. People in social housing have their full rent covered, people in private rentals have their a contribution to their rent based on the lowest market rental in the area. In reality its never close to what you can actually rent for but its very much appreciated all the same as I couldn't afford to live without it.

This is why the country's in a mess.

SP2024 · 19/03/2025 13:14

We get around £150k in per year. Not entitled to child benefit but we do get the tax free childcare and 15 hours for our two nursery aged kids. Mortgage, bills and childcare comes to £6k per month then we have to add food etc on top. Our mortgage is £2600 per month in itself (very average 1950s terraced three bed house but in outskirts of London), nursery is £2500 for the both of them even with the free hours. We are ok but definitely still have to check before we buy and the likelihood of a third child or being able to reduce my hours is pretty small. I do earn more than nursery fees are per day, so we’d be worse off if I went part time

CoralOP · 19/03/2025 13:14

Josiezu · 19/03/2025 13:06

@CoralOP I sometimes think I live on a different planet to most (probably quite happily).
Morgage is £467.

Well yeah you do live on a different planet to most young people. You’re not even getting an 80k mortgage at 467 a month these days, so the vast majority of people buying their first home are paying around 3 times that!

My little cousin is just buying her first house.
It's a lovely new build for £120k.
He morgage was around £700 a month if I remember correctly.
It goes without saying lots of young people are struggling to buy in expensive areas but there's still plenty of places they can buy at a lower cost.

Gogogo12345 · 19/03/2025 13:14

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:03

Bloody hell where on earth can you get a 2-bed house for £80K?

Edited

Well that depends when you bought it doesn't it? I bought my first 2 bed flat in London for 35k back in 1993

Blondiebeachbabe · 19/03/2025 13:13

I think it's due to your outgoings, isn't it?

DH and I bring in £95k between us : about £5500pm. Our mortgage is only £235pm, so that, plus all other bills, totals about £1300, then we need food on top.

We drive second hand cars that are 9 & 11 years old, and all paid for, so no car loans. Even though the cars are 13 & 15 plates, they are lovely. Don't see any need for a new car.

When the kids were in Nursery, I was only bringing home £140 a month after fees paid. It's such an expensive time! Kids are adults now, and financially independent.

Hang on in there, it will get better in time. I would project forward to when yours are in school and his older kids are 18 and see what the figures look like - you should be really well off.

Zebedee999 · 19/03/2025 13:12

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:41

Not looking for sympathy, but I’d have expected a better lifestyle on 90k.

We get by but can’t afford holidays or to get my hair dyed at a salon. MOT months are very stressful (car is seven years old). Clothes are mostly second hand from Vinted.

To be fair £3k on mortgage and bills is a lot, you could downsize for more disposable. Plus when kids no longer need nursery you'll be better off. But I agree not much left for living a relatively ordinary life. Money goes nowhere nowadays.

Ritzybitzy · 19/03/2025 13:11

Your issue is not your income. Your issue is your OH decided to have more kids than he can afford.