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What is your household income, how much is benefits, and how are you coping?

814 replies

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:16

Genuinely curious after so many threads on here about benefit changes. Please feel free to name change!

I’ll start:

Salaries for both of us total 90k. Only benefits are £102 month child benefit, though we also get tax-free childcare and 15hrs free at nursery.

Total income is about 6k a month, mortgage and bills 3k, nursery 1k, commuting costs £500, groceries cost £500, husband pays CMS and other bits to his children totalling about £500 leaving us about £500 for everything else.

Feels like we’re constantly penny-pinching.

OP posts:
Dinoswearunderpants · 19/03/2025 13:43

Combined household income of husband working full time, me part time and rental income of £139,000. Also child benefit but I have to pay that back.

I earn more than my husband (only by about £5k as he also has the rental income) but he pays a fortune for three other kids so he's always broke.

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:43

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:34

Why has he dropped £15Kpa from his salary compared to when you met him?

That doesn't sound good especially as you now have children together.

It does make him seem as if he's not faced the reality of the costs of two families and isn't doing much to increase his salary.

It was a company that went under during Covid. The role required him to work abroad for weeks at a time, during Covid his eldest started having mental health / behaviour issues and his ex asked him to change work to be more consistent which he agreed to. Local work doesn’t pay as much.

OP posts:
FiveBarGate · 19/03/2025 13:42

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 12:05

I put luxury in inverted commas, because obviously SC are not a luxury, but an essential responsibility. Ultimately having SC is the reason we can’t downsize, move areas, get a cheaper car, all the stuff that’s usually recommended to save money.

It is what it is, but I suppose people would assume we are doing well financially because of our salaries. And that’s not really true!

@Gabrilla I think this was perfectly clear. You have just committed the Mumsnet cardinal sin of being a step parent and having a relatively high income.

Our household income is 46k. Get child benefit but nothing else.

I expect that my spare cash is greater than yours though as I have a small house in a cheap area. We have holidays but I try to budget 1k a year to cover Easter, summer and October (,in total, not each!) so we are talking cheap caravan holidays and premier inns.

I think this is an interesting thread and you sound entirely reasonable. You are in your high outlay phase while we go through a cost of living crisis. I think people see the numbers only but take little account of regional differences in housing cost and the impact of childcare.

BeHere · 19/03/2025 13:42

MananaMananaPenelope · 19/03/2025 13:30

I rarely venture into AIBU ..... but I'm stuck on a train.

YABU OP, really you are. I have a similar level of income as a long time single parent to two kids. Never had any benefits, currently supporting my DC through uni (which the system expects through reduction of loan amounts) to the tune of more than your nursery fees each month, despite the fact that they both have p/t jobs because they need to study more than they need to work imo.

We live a nice life and I feel thankful every day.

You never had any child benefit or maternity pay? Most people with DC your age would've been entitled to both. Were you not in the UK at that time or was it a visa conditions thing?

Punzel · 19/03/2025 13:41

I’d love to show you all my financial spreadsheets. Absolute works of art, colour coded, formulas everywhere, linked cells, various scenarios played out with various amounts of dividends etc….
BUT it’s too personal and also everyone would be cross because DH earns lots of money.

BeHere · 19/03/2025 13:38

thecherryfox · 19/03/2025 13:19

It’s so degrading watching people saying they’re struggling on £6k a month. Firstly you own your home, you're not poor. Secondly mortgage and bills at £3k, you likely have a lovely home and what have nice car payments or top of the range phones etc? Most people have to have less than £3k for EVERYTHING.

Not sure many people who have less than 3k a month for everything are also paying 1k a month nursery bills out of that.

RampantIvy · 19/03/2025 13:37

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:03

Bloody hell where on earth can you get a 2-bed house for £80K?

Edited

You could get one in many parts of the North of England. I'm in South Yorkshire and there are loads of properties in or under that price range.

Digdongdoo · 19/03/2025 13:35

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:26

Fair enough, I thought it was 30k.

Still, when we met he was on 60k. I (wrongly) assumed he could afford to pay for his DC from his salary without me needing to supplement it then.

I would caution my friends against getting together with single parents. I don’t resent SC themselves, we all get on very well, but it’d be amazing to be able to afford a weekend away once a year.

Why has his income dropped so much?

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:34

Why has he dropped £15Kpa from his salary compared to when you met him?

That doesn't sound good especially as you now have children together.

It does make him seem as if he's not faced the reality of the costs of two families and isn't doing much to increase his salary.

Aitchtee · 19/03/2025 13:34

Our income is about 132k and we still get child benefit as I have pre tax car payment that gets below threshold.
fairly large mortgage payment but house feels ‘worth’ it.
Three teenagers- enough said - they cost a lot!
Holidays are a big expense, we usually go abroad once per year and maybe 2 holidays in UK.

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:33

Saveusernsme · 19/03/2025 13:30

Its all relative; we couldn’t afford any date nights when out DC were babies. In 5 years things will free up, you’re at the most expensive point in your life. Enjoy the decisions you made because they won’t be around for ever (I mean the SC).

You’re right! The children each have one extra curricular and all they need. I’d love to be able to give them a better lifestyle than I had but their needs are met.

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Josiezu · 19/03/2025 13:32

MananaMananaPenelope · 19/03/2025 13:30

I rarely venture into AIBU ..... but I'm stuck on a train.

YABU OP, really you are. I have a similar level of income as a long time single parent to two kids. Never had any benefits, currently supporting my DC through uni (which the system expects through reduction of loan amounts) to the tune of more than your nursery fees each month, despite the fact that they both have p/t jobs because they need to study more than they need to work imo.

We live a nice life and I feel thankful every day.

Of course a similar income with less outgoings will feel better off.
If your kids are at uni then you likely bought your home at least a decade before the OP, possibly even two which is the largest difference in lifestyles.
How much is your mortgage payment on your home taking out of your income?

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:31

lalaloopyhead · 19/03/2025 13:27

I understand where you are coming from, I think things are tough for younger people/families and those not on the housing ladder. When I look at the cost of houses and mortgages now its is hard to see how a lot can get started.

Our household income is about £75k, but that has only been that high for the last couple of years.

If I had household income of 90K I would feel pretty well off, BUT i bought my house 18 years ago and have pretty much paid my mortgage off...kids are grown up and no particular child related expenses.

When I bought it I was a single parent and on a part time wage - the interest rate was about 5% and my repayments felt high at the time of about £530 per month but have gone as low as £300ish. Its nothing fancy (3 bed terrace) but I have a colleague who has just bought a similar house and her mortage payments are over £1k, I just can't imagine having to pay that much!

I'm making myself sound ancient now but when I first went back to work after maternity leave I pretty much paid all my wages in nursery fees, even back then, however my partner at the time earned say £30k and our house cost £50k - the difference between wages and housing costs are massively different now.

Once your kids are older and at school things will get easier - financially, these are probably the toughest years of your life!

I agree things are getting tougher. Luckily I’ve paid off my student loan but I worry for the next generation.

Sometimes I think “only x years til we can move and downsize” but then I read threads on here about how young adults can’t afford to move out. SC’s mum and her partner are low earners, presumably on UC, so maybe we will be expected to house SC into their 20s and beyond.

OP posts:
MananaMananaPenelope · 19/03/2025 13:30

I rarely venture into AIBU ..... but I'm stuck on a train.

YABU OP, really you are. I have a similar level of income as a long time single parent to two kids. Never had any benefits, currently supporting my DC through uni (which the system expects through reduction of loan amounts) to the tune of more than your nursery fees each month, despite the fact that they both have p/t jobs because they need to study more than they need to work imo.

We live a nice life and I feel thankful every day.

Saveusernsme · 19/03/2025 13:30

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:26

Fair enough, I thought it was 30k.

Still, when we met he was on 60k. I (wrongly) assumed he could afford to pay for his DC from his salary without me needing to supplement it then.

I would caution my friends against getting together with single parents. I don’t resent SC themselves, we all get on very well, but it’d be amazing to be able to afford a weekend away once a year.

Its all relative; we couldn’t afford any date nights when out DC were babies. In 5 years things will free up, you’re at the most expensive point in your life. Enjoy the decisions you made because they won’t be around for ever (I mean the SC).

Josiezu · 19/03/2025 13:29

Grammarnut · 19/03/2025 13:28

90k and thinking you are on the bread-line isn't going to go down well. You are well-off and if you are penny-pinching you are budgeting badly and need to go through your spend with a fine tooth comb.

She didn’t say it put her on the breadline.

roshi42 · 19/03/2025 13:28

That really shows how much harder it is to be single… I don’t earn far off your household income (£80k) but that equates to 4.5k a month for a single salary and I don’t qualify for child benefit.

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 13:28

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:26

Fair enough, I thought it was 30k.

Still, when we met he was on 60k. I (wrongly) assumed he could afford to pay for his DC from his salary without me needing to supplement it then.

I would caution my friends against getting together with single parents. I don’t resent SC themselves, we all get on very well, but it’d be amazing to be able to afford a weekend away once a year.

I understood your post to be an explanation for outgoings that could not be cut back on, an explanation as to why you can’t move to a smaller house with a smaller mortgage and why you can’t move to another area to get a cheaper house.

Grammarnut · 19/03/2025 13:28

90k and thinking you are on the bread-line isn't going to go down well. You are well-off and if you are penny-pinching you are budgeting badly and need to go through your spend with a fine tooth comb.

Almostwelsh · 19/03/2025 13:27

My household income is 3150 per month , plus child benefit for 1 child. I support 3 children on that - one is a university student on a full loan, one is an 18 year old NEET and one is still at school. I have a mortgage, but no childcare costs. I feel I have plenty. I don't watch what I'm buying at the supermarket and I always have money left at the end of the month. I don't drink, smoke or eat out and I don't shop for clothes etc for pleasure, but other than that I don't really restrict myself.

lalaloopyhead · 19/03/2025 13:27

I understand where you are coming from, I think things are tough for younger people/families and those not on the housing ladder. When I look at the cost of houses and mortgages now its is hard to see how a lot can get started.

Our household income is about £75k, but that has only been that high for the last couple of years.

If I had household income of 90K I would feel pretty well off, BUT i bought my house 18 years ago and have pretty much paid my mortgage off...kids are grown up and no particular child related expenses.

When I bought it I was a single parent and on a part time wage - the interest rate was about 5% and my repayments felt high at the time of about £530 per month but have gone as low as £300ish. Its nothing fancy (3 bed terrace) but I have a colleague who has just bought a similar house and her mortage payments are over £1k, I just can't imagine having to pay that much!

I'm making myself sound ancient now but when I first went back to work after maternity leave I pretty much paid all my wages in nursery fees, even back then, however my partner at the time earned say £30k and our house cost £50k - the difference between wages and housing costs are massively different now.

Once your kids are older and at school things will get easier - financially, these are probably the toughest years of your life!

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:26

HerOopNorth · 19/03/2025 13:22

He's not on anything like 50% higher.

ONS

Median gross annual earnings for full-time employees were £37,430 in April 2024, compared with £35,004 in April 2023, an increase of 6.9%.29 Oct 2024

Fair enough, I thought it was 30k.

Still, when we met he was on 60k. I (wrongly) assumed he could afford to pay for his DC from his salary without me needing to supplement it then.

I would caution my friends against getting together with single parents. I don’t resent SC themselves, we all get on very well, but it’d be amazing to be able to afford a weekend away once a year.

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Loveduppenguin · 19/03/2025 13:26

This is mine right now, I’ve just had a promotion but not been paid yet but my budget up to now is
Wages-2750
CB-280
Benefits-177

Total: 3,207

Rent 1400
Electricity 120
Life insurance 40
Internet/tv/2 phones 86
Bin charge 23
Apple 20
Disney 10
DS club 25

Total 1,724
Leftover 1,483

1483 goes to
300 food
240 fuel
200 savings
50 kids clubs/school trips etc
100 treats/coffees/takeaways
100 clothes/shoes
50 birthdays/gifts
50 prescriptions/medicines
150 holidays/trips (either as a payment off a booking or as savings)
I know this essentially leaves over 243 but it gets eaten up somewhere usually and if not it’s put into savings.

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 13:25

thecherryfox · 19/03/2025 13:23

Don’t marry someone with children if you resent having to pay for those children. Him paying to his children is not a luxury, it’s a standard of living.

I don’t think she resents it. She’s just acknowledging it.

MoneyInMoneyOut · 19/03/2025 13:25

Just totted my money in and money out up.

(Single, live alone with 2 cats)

Money in:

Income based ESA support group £12,500 per year
PIP Enhanced Daily Living and Enhanced Mobility £9,500 per year

Total money in (all from benefits) £22,000 per year.

Money out:

Gas, electric water rates, council tax, shopping, tobacco, tv licence, House insurance, Amazon Prime, life insurance, appliance insurance, cleaner, home phone, mobile, internet. No mortgage or rent as own house outright.

Total money out (all above list) £11,400 per year.

Which leaves £10,600 a year (£880 a month, £200 a week) for everything else.

Plus I have around £380,000 in a Trust that doesn't affect my income based ESA as it was a Criminal injuries Compensation Award from the government.

However before this version of my life when I was well, non disabled and working I was on £50,000 a year back in 2005 in a job that came with private health insurance, company car and company credit card and stays in very nice hotels paid for by my employer. I would give everything to be that person again, but it's never going to happen.