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What is your household income, how much is benefits, and how are you coping?

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Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:16

Genuinely curious after so many threads on here about benefit changes. Please feel free to name change!

I’ll start:

Salaries for both of us total 90k. Only benefits are £102 month child benefit, though we also get tax-free childcare and 15hrs free at nursery.

Total income is about 6k a month, mortgage and bills 3k, nursery 1k, commuting costs £500, groceries cost £500, husband pays CMS and other bits to his children totalling about £500 leaving us about £500 for everything else.

Feels like we’re constantly penny-pinching.

OP posts:
TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:29

Bologneselove · 19/03/2025 14:24

you do have options to cut costs. Get rid of your car completely as it seems it’s a luxury you can’t afford, irrespective of your high income.

If she can’t get to work there won’t be an income.

Angrymum22 · 19/03/2025 14:29

Unless you are planning to send your children to private school this is probably the most expensive time. Childcare costs are a big outgoing which disappear when they start school. Life gets better but living well within your means pays big dividends when you reach retirement. Very few people plan for the future nowadays. Once you get past the “expensive” stage don’t waste money keeping up. Invest in pensions so you can enjoy a comfortable retirement believe me it’s worth it.

Having lived a fairly frugal life and made some good financial decisions we are now retired ( late 50s) and have a monthly income after tax of £4k+. I still work 1 day a week to support DS through uni. I chose a career that is well paid. We didn’t have to adjust to a lower income because we had a plan which included investing surplus income in pensions rather than spending it on stuff we didn’t need.

The option of early retirement was a blessing after both DH and I suffered health problems. It could have been so different.

Worrying about money at your stage in life is normal but maybe worry about the real problems rather than the luxuries. Make sure you have adequate life insurance and a good longterm plan. There is nothing wrong with buying second hand or making do. It’s not a new concept. Rather than buying on credit save the money up until you can afford to buy new. By the time you have the funds you may have changed your mind and have found something else you want.

Always have enough in your savings to replace essentials like a central heating boiler, they always break down when you least expect. We have various small accounts that we use for just in case. For the cost of a couple of coffees a week you can save £500 a year. Add in a weekly takeaway and a couple of bottles of wine and you can save £2-3k a year.

I come from a generation where there was no access to credit so you couldn’t buy anything until you had the money. I remember applying for my first credit card. I now never use the credit, paying the balance off every month. I make money this way by collecting the rewards. It’s not much but allows me to treat myself every few months without feeling guilty.

I bulk buy when our regular food and household items are on offer. I suppose we have never adopted the instant gratification lifestyle. And I often talk myself out of buying stuff I don’t need. I love Vinted and since DS has expensive tastes in clothing it is a godsend. He is now a big fan of vintage clothing and has appropriated a lot of his dad’s old clothes. I’ve just bought some sliders off Vinted. They are a style of Fitflops that were discontinued. I bought a pair several years ago but the dog ate one and I was so excited to find an almost brand new pair to replace them.

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:26

Bologneselove · 19/03/2025 14:24

you do have options to cut costs. Get rid of your car completely as it seems it’s a luxury you can’t afford, irrespective of your high income.

Can’t do that as I use it to commute to work? We need a seven seater for any trips as a family.

OP posts:
ZigZagJigsaw · 19/03/2025 14:25

roshi42 · 19/03/2025 13:28

That really shows how much harder it is to be single… I don’t earn far off your household income (£80k) but that equates to 4.5k a month for a single salary and I don’t qualify for child benefit.

So you are hit with a triple whammy - only one basic tax threshold, 40% tax on part of your income and no child benefit.

jellyfishperiwinkle · 19/03/2025 14:25

You will be saving £1000 a month when nursery is no longer required - hang on in there.

Bologneselove · 19/03/2025 14:24

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 12:07

Are you single and living alone though?

We have £1000 for everything including groceries, for six people - so actually less than you per person, despite a 91k household income.

you do have options to cut costs. Get rid of your car completely as it seems it’s a luxury you can’t afford, irrespective of your high income.

littleorangefox · 19/03/2025 14:24

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:13

I’d quality for PIP and disability if I chased it. I don’t though because we manage fine without and it wouldn’t feel right.

That's understandable and entirely your choice just as this is ours :)

onetwothreefourfive11 · 19/03/2025 14:23

Your mortgage and bills are high in my opinion

LilacPeer · 19/03/2025 14:23

Josiezu · 19/03/2025 14:09

I really don’t see how benefits topping up a one minimum wage income family to 80% of a 90k salary makes it feel like “it pays to work”.

It's nothing to do with what another family earns. The incentive from the government to stop people sitting at home claiming benefits and not working is to top up their income. Awarding 45p in UC for every £1 earned. That's where the phrase 'pays to work' comes in.

I have no experience of the Scottish child payment or why it isn't means tested, so can't really comment on that because in England you wouldn't be getting that sort of 'take home'.

To be completely honest, if someone is out working, I don't care if they're a bin man or an astronaut, I want them all to be able to live to a comfortable standard.

NewsOverloading · 19/03/2025 14:22

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:26

Fair enough, I thought it was 30k.

Still, when we met he was on 60k. I (wrongly) assumed he could afford to pay for his DC from his salary without me needing to supplement it then.

I would caution my friends against getting together with single parents. I don’t resent SC themselves, we all get on very well, but it’d be amazing to be able to afford a weekend away once a year.

You say you don't resent your SC but every single post comes across as you absolutely resent the money your DH pays for them! Even blaming the eldest SC for DH having to take a reduced salary. At least you have the self-reflection to admit you are poorer because you decided to marry a man with previous children and then both decided to have DC. If you live in an expensive area neither of you are earning particularly highly, so understandably you aren't well off.

Napface · 19/03/2025 14:22

Our take home pay is about £3.5k per month and all our outgoings are less than £2k per month (including all regular bills, mortgage and food) We get about £170 per month child benefit. We go on one uk holiday per year. We only claim child benefit.

We live quite comfortably on a lot less than you op, but our mortgage presumably a lot lower (small 3 bed in a cheap area, to be honest id rather have the cash than a high mortgage) and we've no nursery expenses, commuting costs or cms.

BeeDavis · 19/03/2025 14:20

After reading this, I’m so glad we live in the north where it’s ridiculously cheaper. Our income is nowhere near yours and it seems we are much better off!

thankyounextplease · 19/03/2025 14:19

southwestmama · 19/03/2025 14:06

Yes, I know, outrageous, why don't I work more etc, with my autistic son in tow and working around when his Dad's shifts are so that we can have 50/50 custoday, how dare a mother only work part time and study 25+ hours a week.

Genuinely curious, will you be able to get work that uses your biology degree after you get it if you're forced to work around someone's shifts?

aphroditeflighty · 19/03/2025 14:18

Both on minimum wage, cash poor, but we do have assets that bring in some extra income (the equivalent of a third wage, which is a bit more than the equivalent of a minimum wage). We have no debt and no mortgage, so our monthly costs are usually well within budget, and if we sold our assets we'd be doing pretty well for ourselves until retirement.
Grow much of our own food, herbs, with a small orchard and chickens.

Luckypinkduck · 19/03/2025 14:15

Household income is about 80k with 1 child and I feel comfortable but when I look at this or compare with others I realise we are frugal/ lucky in some ways.

So we have 1 car we saved for so no finance deal. We don't have expensive gym membership or phone contracts. No children from previous relationships to support. Reasonable mortgage. No debt.

We don't spend a lot day to day but plenty of holidays. Not luxury but nice family ones. We can save and don't worry about bills.

Isitforreal1942 · 19/03/2025 14:15

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 13:22

Agree, if it wasn’t for SC we would leave the country and be paid far more elsewhere.

Absolutely this!! I now work less and tip money into pension, of which I plan to take 25 % tax free (if that has not been removed) when I get to 57.

I appreciate though that I am in a minority as DH has a private income as well as a civil service final salary pension that increases with inflation. While we have a mortgage it could be paid off if we wanted to.

Very privileged to live in one of the most expensive areas of the country - I am essentially working class though (by background) and can totally see that the distinction between rich and poor in this country is growing bigger year on year. There is no way unless there was serious family wealth or a lottery win that even a high earner (am talking law firm/ accountancy firm partner) can afford to live where I live and send kids to fee paying school. Which seems almost unreal to me.

PlusOneThousand · 19/03/2025 14:13

Household income £160k, just us and 1x cat. We are planning to have children soon but currently…

Take home around 9k a month, mortgage £1800 (on a flat because London), bills £600 (we pay a service charge as well as the usual Internet, water, energy, council tax), food £400 on groceries and we get a takeaway approx once a week. Car insurance £400 a year, car tax the same. Currently paying for our wedding this summer then will try for baby.

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:13

littleorangefox · 19/03/2025 14:08

Because it's not means tested. There's no salary threshold for claiming it.

Also, I don't believe for a second anyone who claims they wouldn't apply for it if they were eligible.

I’d quality for PIP and disability if I chased it. I don’t though because we manage fine without and it wouldn’t feel right.

Cerealkiller9000 · 19/03/2025 14:13

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:16

I’m in London and have about £8k a month of direct debits at the moment.

~£3k in mortgage
~£4k in childcare
~£1k in household bills inc council tax, energy, water, internet, insurances etc

Our household income looks very high but our outgoings are astronomical.

I thought we would buy a bigger house at some point but even less the childcare costs at this level, the mortgage would just be too ridiculously huge.

In terms of benefits received - just the 15 hours.

Edited

Same. We’re not even in London and it’s the same! Lolsb

9fthighfence · 19/03/2025 14:11

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:07

You’re not doing anything wrong in claiming it.

It think people are questioning the fact that it’s available to be claimed in these circumstances and whether that should be changed.

Indeed! My goodness our household pays £800 more income tax every month that we would if we lived in England, for the Scottish government to ‘top up’ your household income to the equivalent of about £80k????

19lottie82 · 19/03/2025 14:10

£2100 a month. But fortunately I don’t have a mortgage on my small flat due to an inheritance a few years back and my modest car valued at about 4k is paid off.

I don’t receive any benefits as I’m single with no children.

CosyRoby · 19/03/2025 14:10

To be fair @LilacPeer its not really a “ top up “ when it’s more than your actual wage .
A top up would be working a Sunday shift and getting a 10% premium on my shift for working the Sunday .
These universal credits “ top ups “ are nuts .
It’s like working a shift , your wage is £90 then your work pays you an additional £110 on top …

littleorangefox · 19/03/2025 14:10

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:07

You’re not doing anything wrong in claiming it.

It think people are questioning the fact that it’s available to be claimed in these circumstances and whether that should be changed.

I feel like some people very much believe that I shouldn't be claiming it. They probably also believe I'm frittering it away on alcohol and cigarettes or something 😂

Namechangean · 19/03/2025 14:10

Were under 90k

Income £5600
No benefits
Bills and mortgage £2500 (low mortgage but have some a loan each and a car)
Food/Petrol/pets £1000

Left over each month for luxury’s - £2000

We’ve always been terrible with money but our wages have grown quickly in the past two years as we’ve both progressed, been using the spare cash on holidays and enjoying life but we’re going to TTC soon so all of that disposable income will likely be a distant memory next year

DaffodilsGalore · 19/03/2025 14:10

Josiezu · 19/03/2025 14:08

@DaffodilsGalore What about taking into account the FAMILY income for child benefit and free childcare? Just like you do for UC.
Because I’m sure that would save money we dint have. And at £90k, why should people be offered free by when the poorest don’t??

The poorest have always received more childcare funding. In fact for a long time those not working received more free childcare than those in work.

That’s not the issue.

It’s the fact that at £90k from ine wage, people wouldn’t get chikd benefit.
But two people at £45k, yep no problem.
And yet this is not a family struggling…..

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