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What is your household income, how much is benefits, and how are you coping?

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Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 11:16

Genuinely curious after so many threads on here about benefit changes. Please feel free to name change!

I’ll start:

Salaries for both of us total 90k. Only benefits are £102 month child benefit, though we also get tax-free childcare and 15hrs free at nursery.

Total income is about 6k a month, mortgage and bills 3k, nursery 1k, commuting costs £500, groceries cost £500, husband pays CMS and other bits to his children totalling about £500 leaving us about £500 for everything else.

Feels like we’re constantly penny-pinching.

OP posts:
ZigZagJigsaw · 19/03/2025 14:55

Kuretake · 19/03/2025 14:52

Lots of senior jobs pay this much. CEOs, consultants, senior managers, lots of lawyers pulling this and more, lots of finance jobs.

Particularly in the south east. I’m on 65k in the north, my salary would be 80k odd in London. Degree, MSc, professional quals and several years of relevant experience.

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:55

Flomnle · 19/03/2025 14:52

Savings, not assets. A house you own and live in isn’t considered an asset.
You seem angry at me for being disabled through no fault of my own? Believe me, I’d love to go back to my previous career and 6 figure salary but hey ho, life’s shit.

Not angry, just surprised! I honestly thought that having any form of assets over 16k meant no UC. I understand PIP isn’t means tested.

OP posts:
Flomnle · 19/03/2025 14:52

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:50

I thought assets of over 16k meant you didn’t qualify for benefits?

Savings, not assets. A house you own and live in isn’t considered an asset.
You seem angry at me for being disabled through no fault of my own? Believe me, I’d love to go back to my previous career and 6 figure salary but hey ho, life’s shit.

Kuretake · 19/03/2025 14:52

lifeonmars100 · 19/03/2025 14:44

I am just stunned when I read about incomes of that level, what does someone do to earn that amount of money? That is significantly more that the PM! I don't know anyone who earns anywhere close to that even couples who combine both salaries.

Lots of senior jobs pay this much. CEOs, consultants, senior managers, lots of lawyers pulling this and more, lots of finance jobs.

minnienono · 19/03/2025 14:52

Our essential fixed expenses are only about £800 a month we pay around £300 per month for groceries then a further £300 on meals out and the pub. We are currently saving about £4000 a month but dh retires this year

rosemarble · 19/03/2025 14:51

MounjaMum · 19/03/2025 14:48

How is a joint income of 90k considered high - OP has clearly broken down her expenditure. She does not have any luxuries on here - high ish income but also lots of expenditures - 1k on childcare.

The same people who are supporting a 3k benefits a month on another thread will be bashing the OP on here! Mumsnet never disappoints

OP - I get what you mean!

Relative to the average income of the country, it is high.
She also has high expenditure (which was her choice to make), leaving her penny pinching and asking how others are coping.

Are you actually saying a 90K household income is low?

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:50

Flomnle · 19/03/2025 14:47

It’s not. I have a mortgage, I bought my house many years before my accident. I pay this from my benefits myself.

I thought assets of over 16k meant you didn’t qualify for benefits?

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Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:49

bluegoosie · 19/03/2025 14:45

Same here OP, comparing my parent's quality of life when they were my age (I ended doing the same job as my dad for different reasons) and our quality of life now is disheartening.

Your circumstances will definitely improve once you stop paying child care. Mortage rates are also going down so you may be able to get a better deal on renewal.

I'm trying not to sound too negative but I think everyone's quality of living has dropped significantly over the last 20 years. Real wages have not kept pace with inflation. 90K sounds like a lot but its actually worth around 45K back before 2008 crash.

So really we (I'm in the same bracket) have no very spectacular wages and probably can't live the iconic middle class life John Lewis tries to sell us 😩

NB: I love John Lewis but I can't afford that stuff. I literally just go in to browse and then wonder who buys there at full price...😂

That’s really interesting. It feels like we have a 45k household type lifestyle in my head!

I have no idea what my mother’s household income was but she was solely supported by benefits until I was 12 and our lifestyle was pretty similar to mine now. Occasional cheap day trips, three bed house, grow own veg, second hand clothes. Nothing wrong with any of that and we live to our means, but I just expected more from a university education and a “senior” career.

Makes me scared for the future to be honest.

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MounjaMum · 19/03/2025 14:48

MellowPinkDeer · 19/03/2025 11:38

Oh OP. I would be standing by for a bashing. 90K ( plus STILL being able to get child benefit) is not going to get you ANY sympathy here!!

How is a joint income of 90k considered high - OP has clearly broken down her expenditure. She does not have any luxuries on here - high ish income but also lots of expenditures - 1k on childcare.

The same people who are supporting a 3k benefits a month on another thread will be bashing the OP on here! Mumsnet never disappoints

OP - I get what you mean!

Flomnle · 19/03/2025 14:47

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:46

Wow, I didn’t think mortgages were paid from benefits, only rent or social housing.

It’s not. I have a mortgage, I bought my house many years before my accident. I pay this from my benefits myself.

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:46

Flomnle · 19/03/2025 14:44

Just under £4000 per month. Own house so have to pay mortgage from this. Made up of PIP, DLA for children and UC

Wow, I didn’t think mortgages were paid from benefits, only rent or social housing.

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PoppyBaxter · 19/03/2025 14:46

I'm on £74k. DH is self employed and makes between £40-85k a year. So say our household income is about £140k.

No kids. No benefits.

A mortgage of only £500 per month, thank god! £330 per month council tax though!

Our mortgage and bills come to around £1,500 a month.

We're obviously very financially comfortable. If we get a big bill, we can pay it without concern. We pay for large holidays from our current accounts without having to use savings. But our lifestyle looks dead ordinary from the outside. No flashy cars for instance (I drive a 12- year old piece of crap I paid £2k for).

bluegoosie · 19/03/2025 14:45

Same here OP, comparing my parent's quality of life when they were my age (I ended doing the same job as my dad for different reasons) and our quality of life now is disheartening.

Your circumstances will definitely improve once you stop paying child care. Mortage rates are also going down so you may be able to get a better deal on renewal.

I'm trying not to sound too negative but I think everyone's quality of living has dropped significantly over the last 20 years. Real wages have not kept pace with inflation. 90K sounds like a lot but its actually worth around 45K back before 2008 crash.

So really we (I'm in the same bracket) have no very spectacular wages and probably can't live the iconic middle class life John Lewis tries to sell us 😩

NB: I love John Lewis but I can't afford that stuff. I literally just go in to browse and then wonder who buys there at full price...😂

Flomnle · 19/03/2025 14:44

Just under £4000 per month. Own house so have to pay mortgage from this. Made up of PIP, DLA for children and UC

lifeonmars100 · 19/03/2025 14:44

ThomasinaHoskins · 19/03/2025 14:08

I’m not really sure of the point of this thread but OK. Household income £230k, outgoings approx £2,700 per month. Lucky enough to be able to save the equivalent of my take-home salary.

One DD, just started school, no child benefit but I guess it’s a benefit in kind that’s she’s being educated by the state. I did receive £700 a month for the 10 months I was on maternity leave so there is that, plus the 15 hours funded hours at nursery for a year, which meant we only paid about £67k for 3 and a bit years she was there.

I am just stunned when I read about incomes of that level, what does someone do to earn that amount of money? That is significantly more that the PM! I don't know anyone who earns anywhere close to that even couples who combine both salaries.

9fthighfence · 19/03/2025 14:43

Icanttakethisanymore · 19/03/2025 14:32

Where do you get that stat from? I am not disputing btw, just interested how you know, is there a website?

There is somewhere. ONS or IFS websites maybe? It takes into account your income less your expenses, and 4 children are assumed to be expensive.

MaverickDanger · 19/03/2025 14:42

160k combined income (DH full time, me part time).

Approx 9k a month after tax, no mortgage, £800 ish for nursery (will increase in Sept when DC2 starts & we will also have before and after school clubs) about £400 for groceries, £320 for council tax, £120 gas/elec/water, £200 for phones, TV & internet.

We eat out a fair bit and like our holidays, but we’re frugal with things like cars and clothes. Probably save about 4 - 4.5k per month on average.

9fthighfence · 19/03/2025 14:41

@Angrymum22 good post. We have private school fees that we didn’t plan for our SEN child who was so distraught by state school violence that if was private or me stopping work to home school. High unexpected cost. I cheer myself up with the thought that’s it’s the same cost as having a child in a London nursery. And we had no choice whatsoever. I am grateful for the privilege of having the money to protect my child’s mental health like that.

lifeonmars100 · 19/03/2025 14:37

Despised Boomer here who has not had the decency to die yet. I have £1.5k a month made up of my state pension and a small NHS pension, I still pay income tax but my mortgage is paid off. I worked two jobs as a single parent to manage so please don't hate me. I pay £130 a month council tax on my Band A house, £54 water, £130 gas and electricity, about £120 on food though I am finding my bill rises all the time, house insurance and Broadband have just gone up again, shopping around makes minimal difference as it is all much of muchness these days. Holidays are unaffordable and I now socialise far less as it all costs so much. Glad I am old and at the end of my life as there doesn't seem to be any light on the horizon. I had not envisaged my retirement being like this, but the COL hit just after I stopped working. Am loathe to touch my savings for day to day living but can see that happening soon. I feel very worried for young people as things are so tough

Bryonyberries · 19/03/2025 14:35

Take home earnings are £1.5k per month. Single mum to two I am still supporting so CB for them. Managing bills ok but no luxuries or assets.

Icanttakethisanymore · 19/03/2025 14:32

Selwynn · 19/03/2025 12:25

I know - I was just replying to the statement you were in the top 1%, as you aren’t.

With four kids that makes you in the top ~18% of households.

Where do you get that stat from? I am not disputing btw, just interested how you know, is there a website?

ForZanyAquaViewer · 19/03/2025 14:32

Household income is just shy of £200K. I haven’t gone back to work after (still a toddler) DC, or it would be higher. No benefits, obviously.

We’re fine. We live in an expensive bit of London and have a high mortgage/high living costs, so aren’t exactly swimming in it. But, we can afford to do what we want, when we want and have a decent investment portfolio and good pensions.

I’m never sure whether to post on threads like this, as I’m not sure if anyone finds the above helpful.

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:31

NewsOverloading · 19/03/2025 14:22

You say you don't resent your SC but every single post comes across as you absolutely resent the money your DH pays for them! Even blaming the eldest SC for DH having to take a reduced salary. At least you have the self-reflection to admit you are poorer because you decided to marry a man with previous children and then both decided to have DC. If you live in an expensive area neither of you are earning particularly highly, so understandably you aren't well off.

Edited

She answered the question.

Bologneselove · 19/03/2025 14:31

Gabrilla · 19/03/2025 14:26

Can’t do that as I use it to commute to work? We need a seven seater for any trips as a family.

Seems you’ve got reasons for living above your means in every area. I don’t see the purpose of this post.

TENSsion · 19/03/2025 14:30

jellyfishperiwinkle · 19/03/2025 14:25

You will be saving £1000 a month when nursery is no longer required - hang on in there.

This!
And you’ll be accustomed to it so you will be able to put a decent wedge of it away in savings 😊