To wonder if all those gleeful about PIP cuts are going to welcome people with serious mental health conditions as colleagues and employees?

Or end up in the gig economy. 😕

Is this high performing staff member in an entry role, or is she highly qualified?

As for gaps in CVs - of course that’s fines so long as you can say why. And if that why is cos you had kids or cos you went travelling or cos you weren’t well - fine. So long as you’re ready/ able/ up for working for us now.

Can confirm same set up with several staff across UK.

You've got to understand the high performing disabled people tend to be Exeptionally high performing but not so good social, they are so valuable WFH is almost always approved.

I wonder if more Autistic people knew this and there mums and dad could early intervention and guidance get them on the road to high paid work. But people have varying levels of disability I really think we need to work out what we mean by disabled who should receive benefits and what family and social networks should be. Really think this is a community issue that needs resolving we are not just DISabled people, mostly just people.

Sorry but are you claiming that everyone on PIP has zero experience, qualifications, references and has been in jail???

There are companies that actively work with charities giving ex-cons jobs, so I suppose - get out of jail, work a bit, leads to references and possibly qualifications or work and get the experience and some qualifications??

You're assuming....... and the point I'm making is you shouldn't assume.

Everyone is different and manages their disability differently.

My mum fell down the stairs and fractured 2 vertebrae. In an instant she went from being a full time carer to her mother with dementia to being unable to stand long enough to make a cup of tea.
My dad took early retirement to look after her and 2 years on she's doing much better but had to readjusted to a life where she will be continually reliant on others for day to day care. She has days where she's copes mostly normally but other days where she's still crippled by pain. The switch from being a carer to the one requiring care as well as the guilt associated my grandmother then requiring residential care was hard on her emotional health. Well meaning medical staff making inappropriate comments and supporting her through those have been an added dimension. For example GPs that haven't understood that the advice recommended for general back injuries and fractures are not the same and berating her got not being mobile 6 weeks after the injury which was just so far from her capabilities thankfully she also had an orthopedic consultant that provided her with a more realistic recovery journey

And do you take on people with massive gaps in their CV... criminal records.. no references or qualifications?

We take on apprentices who are school leavers and their references might be a teacher or scout leader or football coach. I don't know re criminal records to be honest. We have people who've had long gaps due to illness or looking after kids.

Same. The same packages are offered free ( bar tax cost in private health) to everyone.

@Longtimeloitererand just because you can’t, it doesn’t mean everyone claiming can’t .

Actually, no. Global company so large Team calls are very common but often it’s 10 people in a room in Berlin, 8 in NYC, 10 in London and a smattering at home.
Most roles are offered as hybrid though - 2/3 days in office then remote. Some of the younger staff prefer to come into an office every day. Some are too anxious so prefer to be fully remote.
One of our very high performing staff has all manner of mental health issues and prefers to WFH and half the time won’t even tune the camera in - uses an avatar instead… adjustments are made accordingly.

Everything we offer is the same to all our staff regardless of their pay band. Eg the mental health helpline, staff support forums etc all open to all, and adjustments can be made whether you are an entry level admin or a senior vice president.

Our wellbeing champions come from a range of pay bands from junior staff right up to leadership.

And do you take on people with massive gaps in their CV... criminal records.. no references or qualifications?

I'm loving all the " well, I'm disabled and I work" threads.

Just because you can doesn't mean that everyone can.

Are these staff are on NMW?

We are a living wage employer but we have low paid staff, yes.

My corporate has ‘mental health first aiders’, wellbeing employee grps, support for carers, mental health help, parents grps, women’s health, menopause, men’s health private health care, support around dementia and on and on, disability support, LGBTQ + grps ,
counselling, grief support
we have access to every kind of support you can imagine.
and on and on.
It’s really common in big companies to have all of this, to help their employees and to support their needs.
We have colleagues with disabilities, both obvious and not.

Absolutely, and then we pay those people a whole £81.90 per week in exchange for their care. When their child/partner loses ££££s in disability benefits, the "family" you refer to will be forced to quit caring, find a job, and outsource the care of their loved one to the local authorities - costing thousands and thousands. Make it make sense.

Team call... so WFH roles.
WFH is a privilege.

We have lots of adjustments, in fact every single Gen z employee seems to have them - they tell everyone, in case you’re wondering how I’d know, sometimes on Teams calls with 80-100 people on …

Are these staff are on NMW?

Would they get adjustments to enable to them to do their role? Would you even give a second glance at their sparse CV?

Got loads of staff with adjustments. All employers do. Colleagues often may not be aware of them, as some people are more private about their health needs. I think people just assume its like 1980 or something - workplaces have changed! I'm very senior at my work and am a wellbeing champion & we have a lot of us who lead on it through the organisation.

You can't discuss adjustments if you don't even get an interview.
Do you think someone with a decade etc out of work is going to be the top of the pile of CVs?

Would they get adjustments to enable to them to do their role? Would you even give a second glance at their sparse CV?

I’m sure they’ll welcome them in the same way they do now. There are many, many people with really significant mental health needs who manage to work. There will be lots amongst your colleagues that you don’t even realise have those significant needs because they just come to work and get on with it.

Stop assuming there's no work you can do.

Assume there will be some. Apply first, discuss adjustments for your disability after. We have a labour shortage in the uk, there are jobs and everyone is needed