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To not want my grandkids to come over because they make me ill?

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MrsSlocombesCat · 18/03/2025 22:22

I hate being ill, I have a son with ASD who depends on me. I also have a problem with alcohol.I have been really good at not drinking since the old new year resolution but I have my two grandchildren over once a week and just lately I have gone down with a cold after every visit. I feel privileged to have this, my son, their dad, moved to Scotland and these visits are precious to me. In the last few weeks I have caught something from them every time they visit. Last winter I caught a cold and ended up with pneumonia. When I feel ill I end up drinking which isn't ideal. For my own good it would be better if I didn't see them which would be really hard. I have asked them not to come if they have a cold but they just try to conceal it. Any advice appreciated.

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5128gap · 21/12/2025 23:37

You are setting up a false protection to falling off the wagon. You believe being ill makes you drink and your DGC make you ill, ergo avoid your DGC and you won't drink. I think you will find this isn't the shield you think it will be. So my advice is to work through what really makes you drink (illness is your excuse not the cause) with support. Take vit D and C, eat well, do what excercise you're capable of, practise good hygiene and see your DGC. Your relationships with your family may be quite fragile given your alcoholism, so I think you need to protect them.

Laurmolonlabe · 21/12/2025 23:21

You are phobic about getting ill, you actually say so,so this is what needs to be addressed.
You have no evidence it was your grandchildren who made you ill.
Drinking for comfort when ill seems weird to me, surely you just feel even worse.
Drinking heavily is a huge problem, whatever time of day it is, and will further weaken your immune system making getting ill more likely

mathanxiety · 19/03/2025 15:18

Wear a mask.
Wash hands frequently.

Take vitamins - your drinking might be interfering with your nutrition or absorption of nutrients.

Talk to your GP about your drinking problem. Yes, you have a problem there.
Consider whether Alcoholics Anonymous would be a good idea for you.

Are you really bothered by the grandkids' visits or do you just want to be left in peace to drink?

LemonPeonies · 19/03/2025 15:15

You're lucky You're allowed to see them at all being an active alcoholic. Do you drink before seeing them/ when they're around?

fghbvh · 19/03/2025 15:13

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 18/03/2025 22:31

You don’t drink because you’re ill, you drink because you’re an alcoholic.

Own your actions.

Yes. And if you’re an alcoholic your grandchildren would be better off not spending time with you.

user1471516498 · 19/03/2025 15:10

PurpleThistle7 · 19/03/2025 13:11

I would hope it's not anything on purpose - I have 2 kids and my threshold for thinking someone is ill enough to mention it is really high nowadays - it has to be 'actually' sick as opposed to a cold for me to think it's worth changing plans. So their mother might not understand what you mean when you say 'don't visit if you're sick'. I don't even notice snotty noses and such nowadays (though was 100% careful with my friend who was immunocompressed and basically never brought my kids as they have nonstop colds)

I think it's lovely that an 11/13 year old are still coming to see you - at this point it is their choice and they are choosing to maintain that connection despite your son being so absent. I really wouldn't want to discourage it.

If you feel like your drinking isn't in your control or external factors such as being slightly unwell make you behave in a way you'd prefer not to, it's a problem. A drinking problem is important to recognise and it would be good to get some support in managing this.

I think you have nailed it WRT the sickness. OP needs to specify not to come if they have any symptoms at all, even just feeling run down, as that may be a precursor to illness. Then apply covid rules, including ventilation and distancing. Not masks though!

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/03/2025 14:28

Bababear987 · 19/03/2025 13:57

Dont know why people are suggesting young kids arent full of germs, I have them and we are constantly sick. Kids who go to school or nursery, especially younger ones are constantly sick, me and my mum friends talk about how rough this winter has been- me and baby were sick from nov to feb, got 3 weeks off and now have a V&D bug, it's horrible.

That being said you cant blame the drinking on you having a cold, I cant imagine anything worse than drinking when sick.

Just tell them you arent well

They do get ill. My toddler gets a new bug most weeks, but even with the liberal application if sneezes and coughs directly into my mouth, food and whatever I still don't catch all of it and it's usually a mild head cold. Don't get me wrong there are some stinkers in there but they're not predominant.

But OPs grandkids are 11 and 13. Almost teenagers, not young kids. Well past the age of constant nursery bugs and very much capable of basic hygiene. They can use tissues, cover mouths, wash hands.

Kardamyli2 · 19/03/2025 14:07

I'm surprised your son and wife/partner want their children anywhere near someone with an alcohol problem.

Wolfiefan · 19/03/2025 14:04

You’re making excuses to drink OP. Having a cold doesn’t make people with a healthy attitude to alcohol start drinking.

Bababear987 · 19/03/2025 13:57

Dont know why people are suggesting young kids arent full of germs, I have them and we are constantly sick. Kids who go to school or nursery, especially younger ones are constantly sick, me and my mum friends talk about how rough this winter has been- me and baby were sick from nov to feb, got 3 weeks off and now have a V&D bug, it's horrible.

That being said you cant blame the drinking on you having a cold, I cant imagine anything worse than drinking when sick.

Just tell them you arent well

Ellepff · 19/03/2025 13:49

It's funny because it's only happened in recent weeks, all through winter I was fine until then. Actually I was drinking regularly throughout that time! It's only since I stopped that I have been catching the colds.
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OP you are lying to yourself and to us. The problem is not your family it is you and your addiction

ButThisIsMyHappyFace · 19/03/2025 13:16

Sorry OP but you’re an alcoholic. You deny and make excuses, you’re inconsistent and evasive in your answers about your drinking, and you drink to cope with things you find difficult. It’s not about quantity, time of day or anything else. Alcoholics aren’t just poor things asleep on a bench with a bottle of Buckfast. They have jobs, run businesses, take their kids to school - even look after grandchildren. But they’re still alcoholics.

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/03/2025 13:12

MrsSlocombesCat · 19/03/2025 13:03

The second day of the cold was the worst and I didn't drink until the third.

Ok, so on one hand you are claiming you are drinking because of the colds and you hate being ill. Then next you don't start drinking until after the worst of the cold has passed so it's not the alcohols fault...

If you're not drinking until after you start to get better then the cold isn't the reason and you're drinking because you want to drink and using having a cold as an excuse.

PurpleThistle7 · 19/03/2025 13:11

I would hope it's not anything on purpose - I have 2 kids and my threshold for thinking someone is ill enough to mention it is really high nowadays - it has to be 'actually' sick as opposed to a cold for me to think it's worth changing plans. So their mother might not understand what you mean when you say 'don't visit if you're sick'. I don't even notice snotty noses and such nowadays (though was 100% careful with my friend who was immunocompressed and basically never brought my kids as they have nonstop colds)

I think it's lovely that an 11/13 year old are still coming to see you - at this point it is their choice and they are choosing to maintain that connection despite your son being so absent. I really wouldn't want to discourage it.

If you feel like your drinking isn't in your control or external factors such as being slightly unwell make you behave in a way you'd prefer not to, it's a problem. A drinking problem is important to recognise and it would be good to get some support in managing this.

MrsSlocombesCat · 19/03/2025 13:05

Quinlan · 19/03/2025 12:49

Does your son have any contact with his kids or has he just abandoned them? Because if you do this, if you tell their mum to stop bringing them round then that will be it. You won’t have them in your life. All because you can’t control your drinking when you have a cold.

I’d get help for the alcoholism before cutting off my grandkids. Caring for your ASD son is tough, but cutting off family won’t help with that.

Yes my son does have contact with the kids. He visits every couple of months. He lives 400 miles away. And yes he pays maintenance.

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surfingdreams · 19/03/2025 13:03

Theres some big assumptions here from posters?!

I am mid thirties and can pretty much guarantee if I visit friends with sick kids, that I’ll catch it too! So I don’t think there’s anything wrong with your immune system, it’s just how viruses spread & kids can be great at spreading them around. My friends parents tend to tell me ahead & then depending what I’ve got planned in next week, I decide whether it’s worth the risk or not.

Meeting outdoors is probably a safer bet but not that practical right now as it’s cold. A chat with the parent or kids about how you don’t cope well at the moment when you do catch a cold so please let you know ahead of visits seems reasonable?

MrsSlocombesCat · 19/03/2025 13:03

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/03/2025 12:59

The alcohol is the problem. Alcohol does significantly impact the immune system, no matter when you drink. Therefore if you drink alcohol when you get a cold its linked to worsening and extending the symptoms. So when you drink 'for comfortable' because you hate being ill, you are actually making yourself sicker for longer.

Then your system is down from the drinking and worse illness, so you catch another. And you drink more. Repeat.

No one likes being sick, but colds shouldn't be debilitating you as much as you claim. You will however feel pretty rough if you have a minor cold and a hangover from downing drinks before going to bed the night before.

The second day of the cold was the worst and I didn't drink until the third.

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MrsSlocombesCat · 19/03/2025 13:02

isthesolution · 19/03/2025 12:51

Ok. So you are an alcoholic but aren’t ready to admit that and can’t accept it’s part of the problem here. And that’s fine. You are an adult and your alcohol intake is your decision.

To be clear are you seeing you NEVER want to see your grandchildren incase they make you ill?

No of course not. I just wish they would be honest and admit they have a virus and not come when they do. I thought about messaging their mum but I don't want to put a fly in the ointment and annoy her. It's funny because it's only happened in recent weeks, all through winter I was fine until then. Actually I was drinking regularly throughout that time! It's only since I stopped that I have been catching the colds. But that's probably a coincidence and believe it or not I don't find it difficult not to drink when I am feeling my normal self.

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SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/03/2025 12:59

The alcohol is the problem. Alcohol does significantly impact the immune system, no matter when you drink. Therefore if you drink alcohol when you get a cold its linked to worsening and extending the symptoms. So when you drink 'for comfortable' because you hate being ill, you are actually making yourself sicker for longer.

Then your system is down from the drinking and worse illness, so you catch another. And you drink more. Repeat.

No one likes being sick, but colds shouldn't be debilitating you as much as you claim. You will however feel pretty rough if you have a minor cold and a hangover from downing drinks before going to bed the night before.

MrsSlocombesCat · 19/03/2025 12:55

Threecopiesandabiscuit · 18/03/2025 22:59

Oh dear op, now you have been honest and admitted to having an addiction and to being a flawed human being, you will receive very little sympathy on here because you are not perfect like all of the other posters 😄

Congrats for being moderate with the sauce since the NY and sorry you have been so ill.

Unlike a pp, I can well believe that you have succumbed to frequent viruses, as they have been rife in my workplace of late.

I imagine it’s very demanding being a full time carer to your son with ASD and that can lower your immunity in itself, if you don’t get many respite breaks, or if your sleep is interrupted. I imagine you use alcohol to push through the periods when you are tired or unwell?

Could you compromise over the gc visits? I know little children are petri-dishes but if the visits are very precious to you, it seems a bit extreme to stop them completely.

I think you could legitimately say to the parents of your grandsons, that you are finding everything a bit much atm, and that you need a month’s break, by which time the weather will be warmer and the circulating viruses will be hopefully fewer in number?

But op, said very gently, are you sure that you are getting enough support with your caring duties? Do you receive all of the benefits to which you are entitled? Does your son with ASD ever go away to give you some respite?

Your dependence on alcohol might be a coping strategy and an indication that you are struggling? In which case, can you be honest with the rest of your family? Admit to needing help with your addiction, and more support with looking after your son with ASD?

Maybe instead of bringing their dc around to add to your caring duties, your other son and his partner could give you a break for a while? But they won’t do that unless you are brave and tell them honestly how you are feeling 💐

Ha ha your comment made me smile. I do have a lot on, I also have a YouTube channel that takes up a lot of my time. But I am fine coping with everything - until I get a cold. Hopefully the summer months will kill all the bugs.

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isthesolution · 19/03/2025 12:51

Ok. So you are an alcoholic but aren’t ready to admit that and can’t accept it’s part of the problem here. And that’s fine. You are an adult and your alcohol intake is your decision.

To be clear are you seeing you NEVER want to see your grandchildren incase they make you ill?

MrsSlocombesCat · 19/03/2025 12:50

user5213768943 · 19/03/2025 12:45

Take a vitamin D supplement- this has really helped cold avoidance in this household. Also the first defence stuff you spray up your nose, I use that after any suspected exposure, if someone is coughing on the bus or in an enclosed space. Seems to work.
Little kids are germ factories as anyone with kids at nursery will testify! Take them to the park or play in the garden if you have one?

I already do all that. Also I probably should have mentioned that my grandkids are 11 and 13. I'm hoping that summer will stop all the bugs!

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Quinlan · 19/03/2025 12:49

Does your son have any contact with his kids or has he just abandoned them? Because if you do this, if you tell their mum to stop bringing them round then that will be it. You won’t have them in your life. All because you can’t control your drinking when you have a cold.

I’d get help for the alcoholism before cutting off my grandkids. Caring for your ASD son is tough, but cutting off family won’t help with that.

BigCarMistake · 19/03/2025 12:46

I think the number of posters who have touched upon the load you’re carrying, are getting the core of this issue, which I feel is less around colds and more around your ability to carry this load. I think you need to listen to this message and there have been some great suggestions about conversations you could have with your son. The issue about grandchildren and illness is just a symptom I think of the much bigger issue.

user5213768943 · 19/03/2025 12:45

Take a vitamin D supplement- this has really helped cold avoidance in this household. Also the first defence stuff you spray up your nose, I use that after any suspected exposure, if someone is coughing on the bus or in an enclosed space. Seems to work.
Little kids are germ factories as anyone with kids at nursery will testify! Take them to the park or play in the garden if you have one?

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