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Cat921 · 18/03/2025 19:29

Three weeks ago we had our reactive 14 year old Jack Russell put to sleep because of his strange behaviour around our newborn baby and I feel so guilty.

Our dog was our whole life. We loved him dearly! My husband had him before we met since he was a puppy so for 14 years and I had him for 9 years. He was very reactive and we changed our whole life since I have known my husband for him. He was very territorial of the home and we couldn’t invite people over so we would have to put him upstairs away from visitors. He had previously bitten two people who entered the house quite a few years previously.
He accepted my mum eventually after she give him treats but had to be introduced with a muzzle. On walks we kept him close to use as he did not like other dogs or people and we were unsure if he would bite out of anxiety. He was an anxious dog who hated baths, blowing out candles, and sneezes. He would need to be on a lead in the garden as he hated the dog next door and would bark at him incessantly through the fence and we also were worried about him getting out and potentially biting someone out of fear. He hated when parcels would be dropped off and we would have to fight to get to the door. He had three people in his life he was fine with and who he loved. He hated the car and we could not take him anywhere or to public places as he would get so anxious.

When we first returned home, for the first three days we were surprised as our dog was fine with our newborn and we introduced them from a distance and let him smell her blanket and baby grow. I bought extra treats and toys for him. I naively thought he would be fine but my husband had had prior reservations before we brought her home. We were hoping he would sense my pregnancy as he would always sit on my knee for cuddles. After a few days, he barked at my baby in her Moses basket and my husband grew unsure of his intentions. He started becoming stressed when she cried as if he realised that she was suddenly here and would hide under the table and started weeing in the house. We never sanctioned him for this. He then started taking an interest in the Moses basket in the living room and was obsessed with jumping up at it even when she wasn’t crying. He wasn’t necessarily bothered about her when I was holding her on the sofa. We contacted a dogs trust behaviourist for advice. We couldn’t have a behaviourist come to the house as he does not accept visitors. He then continued to bark when she cried and we recorded my babies cried and used a doll (suggested by dogs trust) to positively reinforce him leaving it alone with treats but this did not work. He then started jumping up at me on the sofa when holding my baby with his tail down and we recorded this and sent to dogs trust who said it was potentially concerning behaviour. Our dog slept in our bed with us his whole life and our baby had her next to me crib in there and I felt uneasy about him accessing it if I was asleep at night as it was on his level. He never bothered it the previous nights but I ended up sleeping downstairs with her the few nights after that which was hard with a newborn. We had to put his muzzle on to calm him in the house as he would not leave the Moses basket alone.

We were able to manage all of this behaviour previous to my daughter being born as he was the most loving dog with us and never bit us or showed any aggression to me and my husband. We loved him so much but this was hard to manage with a newborn. I think I know ultimately it was the right decision but feel bad as he looked to me to protect him and would always come to me when scared! The guilt is awful! It was such a stressful situation and hormones were everywhere and feel we should have gave him longer than a week to adjust but me and my partner just were unsure of his behaviour and couldn’t read him and weren’t sure if we could take that chance with our newborn. We were worried this anxiety would manifest itself into aggression. We could not rehome him as he would not do well in that situation and could be a potential risk to strangers. We also read that dogs don’t see babies as human and as potentially an animal and prey which scared us. We are heartbroken that we had to make this decision. Anyone had a similar situation and how do I deal with this guilt?

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Cat921 · 18/03/2025 21:35

We had a behaviourist come out when he was around 3 years old and they said that his behaviour was too challenging and they didn’t understand and couldn’t read his behaviour in some circumstances. It didn’t help at all! We tried to remove triggers for him and he loved a happy life with me and my husband. We genuinely thought if we introduced them properly it would all go okay. I don’t feel bad for getting pregnant as unfortunately fertility doesn’t work like that

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kitchentablegardentable · 18/03/2025 21:33

Cat921 · 18/03/2025 21:09

I just feel guilty that I didn’t give him longer to adjust and keep thinking that maybe we read his intentions wrong and he was maybe just curious about the baby and would eventually settle but it was just getting unmanageable and got to the point that the doubt was put in our heads. I didn’t want him to have a life separate from us in the house or to be muzzled.

No.

You have to be very vigilant with even the most placid, predictable of dogs when they are around babies /children.

You could never have relaxed around your dog. He was not going to have a full personality change and you know that.

Dont give yourself a hard time. It was the only option.

kitchentablegardentable · 18/03/2025 21:29

You clearly adored your dog, who sounds incredibly challenging.

You gave him 14 very good years.

I cant imagine there are many other owners who could have managed that.

He had a good life. And I really don’t see that you had any other option. He absolutely couldn’t be around your daughter, and you are correct that he couldn’t be rehomed, he wouldn’t have been happy.

He was 14. It would be so much worse if he had been 4. But 14…..that’s a good life.

TopThreeFTW · 18/03/2025 21:24

GelatinousDynamo · 18/03/2025 21:17

This really is on you and you are right to be feeling guilty, but not because you've decided to protect your child by removing him from the house. It's because you've had so many years to tackle his issues, but instead you took the easy way out and accommodated him and his anxiety. You never gave him a chance to overcome his problems, you didn't keep trying, you just gave up on him at some point, and then you had him put to sleep when he became too unmanageable.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with everyone that the baby's safety is paramount and you had no other choice. But you left yourself no other choice, too, and that's on you.

You're absolutely correct. A dog behaviourist 9 years ago may have prevented the dog being PTS prematurely.

LandSharksAnonymous · 18/03/2025 21:23

GelatinousDynamo · 18/03/2025 21:17

This really is on you and you are right to be feeling guilty, but not because you've decided to protect your child by removing him from the house. It's because you've had so many years to tackle his issues, but instead you took the easy way out and accommodated him and his anxiety. You never gave him a chance to overcome his problems, you didn't keep trying, you just gave up on him at some point, and then you had him put to sleep when he became too unmanageable.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with everyone that the baby's safety is paramount and you had no other choice. But you left yourself no other choice, too, and that's on you.

I 100% agree with this.

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 18/03/2025 21:21

Not an easy decision but 100% the right one. My DP once treated a days old baby in ITU who had been nipped by a Jack Russell who decided to investigate the Moses basket 💔
Much better to have guilt over putting a reactive dog to sleep than the (potential) alternative guilt over the dog doing something awful to your child.

GelatinousDynamo · 18/03/2025 21:17

This really is on you and you are right to be feeling guilty, but not because you've decided to protect your child by removing him from the house. It's because you've had so many years to tackle his issues, but instead you took the easy way out and accommodated him and his anxiety. You never gave him a chance to overcome his problems, you didn't keep trying, you just gave up on him at some point, and then you had him put to sleep when he became too unmanageable.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with everyone that the baby's safety is paramount and you had no other choice. But you left yourself no other choice, too, and that's on you.

Zanatdy · 18/03/2025 21:13

You did the right thing. You couldn’t risk his behaviour escalating.

hby9628 · 18/03/2025 21:10

He had 14 years of a fantastic life with people who truly put him first. He was very lucky to have found that. The reality is he would have been miserable and it could have been a disaster. A devastating decision to have had to made but 100% the right one.

Cat921 · 18/03/2025 21:09

I just feel guilty that I didn’t give him longer to adjust and keep thinking that maybe we read his intentions wrong and he was maybe just curious about the baby and would eventually settle but it was just getting unmanageable and got to the point that the doubt was put in our heads. I didn’t want him to have a life separate from us in the house or to be muzzled.

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Cat921 · 18/03/2025 21:06

I am 34 years old and have fertility issues and had been trying for a baby for a few years. We were unsure if it would happen for us! We had a few miscarriages along the way. I couldn’t hold off having children as sadly fertility doesn’t work like that. I loved him and genuinely believed he would grow to accept the baby.

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Abigaillovesholidays · 18/03/2025 20:59

Sorry you found yourself in this situation. It's heartbreaking. You had to protect your baby. You would never have forgiven yourself if the dog had hurt baby.

CheekyAquaBeaker · 18/03/2025 20:56

KhakiShaker · 18/03/2025 20:35

I’ll probably get flamed for this but I don’t care. This post has made me angry. Your poor dog who you claim was your life, was nearing the end of his life. Couldn’t you just have waited until he passed naturally before having a baby?

Your dog deserved to live the rest of his life without you ending it prematurely because you decided to have a baby. You must’ve known the dog would’ve had a problem with a newborn and wasn’t safe around kids, yet you couldn’t wait just a little bit longer? What did you think was going to happen when you brought the baby home?

Ridiculous comment. You have no idea how old the OP is or what fertility issues might not make this feasible. And even if it was feasible it’s still a ridiculous comment. They gave a very anxious reactive dog a great quality of life for a long period of time until they couldn’t. I can’t imagine many other people would have built their life around a dog like this and it would have been put to sleep a long time ago.

Whataloadofpish · 18/03/2025 20:53

Don't listen to kack shaker OP, there are far worse things than death for an animal, particularly a geriatric one. Intense and constant anxiety is being one. Plenty of people would have had this dog pts well before now.

He has been a very lucky boy living such a long life with doting owners. You've gone above and beyond in keeping his life as stress free as possible and done your utmost to avoid any situations where he could have bitten someone.

Far better to have done this now rather than 5 minutes too late... He's lived a long and good life and now he'll rest easy OP, free from all his angst. You are completely entitled to feel at ease with the decision you made as most of us would have done exactly the same.

Enjoy your baby OP and move on ❤️

Poppyseeds79 · 18/03/2025 20:46

KhakiShaker · 18/03/2025 20:35

I’ll probably get flamed for this but I don’t care. This post has made me angry. Your poor dog who you claim was your life, was nearing the end of his life. Couldn’t you just have waited until he passed naturally before having a baby?

Your dog deserved to live the rest of his life without you ending it prematurely because you decided to have a baby. You must’ve known the dog would’ve had a problem with a newborn and wasn’t safe around kids, yet you couldn’t wait just a little bit longer? What did you think was going to happen when you brought the baby home?

If the dog had been taken in by anyone else who hadn't been prepared to make massive accomodations for 14yrs to support it. Then OP wouldn't be making a post about the dog reaching 14 🙄

It sounds like his needs made him completely unable to be rehomed at any point in his life. What do you think happens to 99% of reactive dogs that people can't manage?

Bignanna · 18/03/2025 20:40

Khaki shaker- He could have lived another five years! Of course the OP had to do what was right for her and her husband. The dog had many good years with them. They did the right thing, it was time to put themselves and the safety of their child first.

Hillsaremyhappyplace · 18/03/2025 20:39

I’m so sorry @Cat921 . You definitely made the right choice though. Even putting the danger to your baby aside, your dog was really unhappy and super stressed which was hard on him. You did the right thing.

KhakiShaker · 18/03/2025 20:35

I’ll probably get flamed for this but I don’t care. This post has made me angry. Your poor dog who you claim was your life, was nearing the end of his life. Couldn’t you just have waited until he passed naturally before having a baby?

Your dog deserved to live the rest of his life without you ending it prematurely because you decided to have a baby. You must’ve known the dog would’ve had a problem with a newborn and wasn’t safe around kids, yet you couldn’t wait just a little bit longer? What did you think was going to happen when you brought the baby home?

ACynicalDad · 18/03/2025 20:29

Too many people don't make the right choice, you did, life isn't always easy. Maybe in a few years you can think about filling a doggy shaped hole, but not now.

MyIvyGrows · 18/03/2025 20:27

Easterbunnygettingsorted · 18/03/2025 20:10

A lesson to others with a ddog and a dc due.. Ddog needs to already be used to not sleeping in the bed...
Sounds like ddog would never be safe around your dc. Right call op even though you feel guilty.

This. We started shutting the cats out of the bedroom a few days after confirming my pregnancy, so they had time to get used to it.

Branleuse · 18/03/2025 20:27

You did what you had to do.
Im so sorry for your loss. X

goldenretrieverenergy · 18/03/2025 20:26

You did the right thing.

I can imagine how guilty you feel, but you did the best thing for your DC and ultimately for your Ddog too.

He was 14 years old and he had many great years with you. It doesn’t sound like he would get used to your DC and it would be too risky to continue trying if he already showed aggressive tendencies before.

Hereandthere2 · 18/03/2025 20:24

You are understandably grieving the loss of your dog because you put him to sleep. In another life, you could have been grieving the loss of your baby because you didn’t . You couldn’t take that chance: well done for making the right (but tough) call for the good of you all (dog included).

Jollyjoy · 18/03/2025 20:19

Oh this is such a sad situation for you. You did all you could but you wish it could have turned out differently. Sending you a hug Flowers

SleepingCatBlanket · 18/03/2025 20:16

You're excellent parents