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Stepchildren and uni costs

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Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 09:47

The other day my DSS came in catasrophising that he wouldn't be able to afford uni.

His maths show him his loan will only cover (he'll get the second highest amount) his rent and maybe some extra bits, but that realistically it will.mostly go on rent.

Then I told him that what his DF gives his DM as maintenance would go straight to him, so that would help too. He still was panicking about it. I then said we'd help with something like the grocery shopping (I'm thinking £150 a month, which to me seems ok, considering I only spend £500 for a "modular" family of 6).
So ultimately his "luxuries" would have to come from any sort of job he can get while at uni.

He was a bit more chilled after the convo, but I'm concerned he think we'll "rescue" him, which we 100% don't plan to. DH is with me on this, but I think all of his parental figure is need to sit down with him and explain it to him, but my DH thinks that's not needed and overkill.

For context, we make more than double than his DM and step dad, we go on holidays abroad, etc .. So he might hunk we can "afford" more, but we still have other 3 DC to support one way or the other.

So I guess is our approach unreasonable?

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Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:46

crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:39

Is the set up that you have two SC, SS followed by a slightly younger SD, a teen DD of your own and one younger one shared with your husband?

Definitely look at how much it’ll all cost in a few years. Undergrads get funding for four years if they retake a year; will you have any cross over with more than one child at uni? If you’re on a reasonably high salary your daughter will get a low loan and you don’t want to overcommit yourself now.

Personally I’d commit to sending SS £250 monthly as you’ve already said you would, if it’s affordable for the next four+ years, but make it very clear that there’ll be no bailing out or allowances or anything on top of that. He’ll almost certainly run out of money in the first year and it’s a learning experience. He may come to you for money and you may give it to him, but you don’t want it to be the expectation every time he’s feeling short. And don’t agree to pay his mum anything, that’s madness!

I’m in a similar position to you and won’t be paying anything to my SC’s uni costs. You’re already being very generous!

Yes correct, that's the setup.

My DD will have the very minimum loan. There will be an overlap between both girls (of two years) BUT at the very least my DD who is younger has already had a job! So I'm not worried about her willingness to get one, although she spends her own money like there's no tomorrow, but that's a different question altogether. However, by the time the younger daughter goes to uni, her brother would have graduated, so it's one for the other so to speak.

Then there's the youngest one, who will have zero overlap.

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crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:44

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:41

Yeah at least the way he is (as in no real urgency for saving/getting a job) that ain't gonna happen. And something that I/his father/his mother are not aware of.

He’ll have a significant interest-free student overdraft OP, that’s what covered a lot of mine and my friends’ costs. Or often halls require a deposit which is paid with the first loan payment, which he’ll get back at the end of the year and put to his next accommodation.

A lot of this is impossible to predict at the moment because you don’t know where he’s going. Once you do, sit down with him and do a budget. But no harm in setting expectations now.

Are you currently paying for everything for him above maintenance levels?

VioletVX · 18/03/2025 13:41

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:41

Yeah at least the way he is (as in no real urgency for saving/getting a job) that ain't gonna happen. And something that I/his father/his mother are not aware of.

Something to communicate to him now then…

crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:41

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/03/2025 13:37

Yes, lots of students have a PT job, including my dd. But the amount that students can borrow is determined by their parents' income, and the government expects parents to make up the difference to the maximum loan amount.

Parents who don't provide the expected parental contribution are letting their kids down. A PT job should be on top of this, not instead of.

ETA These comments clearly don't apply to the OP and her DH because they will be providing the expected parental contribution. If the DSS wants more than that, then I agree, he will need to get a job.

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It’s based on their resident parent’s income, so theoretically his mum should be making up the difference.

OP and SS’s dad are actually offering double what was paid for CMS, that’s unusually generous and indirectly half is from OP. The SS is lucky to have a stepparent who wants to fund her adult stepchild.

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:41

VioletVX · 18/03/2025 13:38

Uni halls is usually only an option in first year, just fyi. From second year onwards, he’ll have to rent privately, paying for the whole year - and most students find their second year flats in the first term of first year, so he’ll need to have enough saved up for the deposit at that point.

Yeah at least the way he is (as in no real urgency for saving/getting a job) that ain't gonna happen. And something that I/his father/his mother are not aware of.

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crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:39

Is the set up that you have two SC, SS followed by a slightly younger SD, a teen DD of your own and one younger one shared with your husband?

Definitely look at how much it’ll all cost in a few years. Undergrads get funding for four years if they retake a year; will you have any cross over with more than one child at uni? If you’re on a reasonably high salary your daughter will get a low loan and you don’t want to overcommit yourself now.

Personally I’d commit to sending SS £250 monthly as you’ve already said you would, if it’s affordable for the next four+ years, but make it very clear that there’ll be no bailing out or allowances or anything on top of that. He’ll almost certainly run out of money in the first year and it’s a learning experience. He may come to you for money and you may give it to him, but you don’t want it to be the expectation every time he’s feeling short. And don’t agree to pay his mum anything, that’s madness!

I’m in a similar position to you and won’t be paying anything to my SC’s uni costs. You’re already being very generous!

VioletVX · 18/03/2025 13:38

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 10:53

Uni halls it is... But that's the sort of thing HE needs to understand, and why I think we al need to gather around him and explain it to him

Uni halls is usually only an option in first year, just fyi. From second year onwards, he’ll have to rent privately, paying for the whole year - and most students find their second year flats in the first term of first year, so he’ll need to have enough saved up for the deposit at that point.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 18/03/2025 13:37

321user123 · 18/03/2025 13:03

That’s what a job is for… the majority of students need to have a part time job at least.

Yes, lots of students have a PT job, including my dd. But the amount that students can borrow is determined by their parents' income, and the government expects parents to make up the difference to the maximum loan amount.

Parents who don't provide the expected parental contribution are letting their kids down. A PT job should be on top of this, not instead of.

ETA These comments clearly don't apply to the OP and her DH because they will be providing the expected parental contribution. If the DSS wants more than that, then I agree, he will need to get a job.

KnewYearKnewMe · 18/03/2025 13:32

uni is VERY expensive.

Many have to Iive away from home to get the course they want, and in most, halls are only available in the first year.

my daughter is in her second year - bog standard room in a private student accommodation is £560 per month, not including bills, and that’s for the whole calendar year (there aren’t any term time only rents).

that’s more than her student loan just on rent.

we pay her bills, groceries, uni supplies and travel home regularly, which comes to about £500 per month.

luckily we had a gap between uni for the kids otherwise we would have struggled.

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:32

NancyJoan · 18/03/2025 13:28

There are very good universities in low cost cities/towns. My DD's friend is at Cardiff, paying very cheap rent. Friends in Exeter and Bristol paying significantly more. And DD in London paying absolutely thru the nose.

His options are Cardiff, Manchester, York, and Birmingham. I don't any of them is particularly expensive, but I haven't sat down and done my own "research".

I feel he definitely needs a spreadsheet and figure out money coming in and out. Then he'll see he has no other option but to get a job.

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treesandsun · 18/03/2025 13:30

I think he is right to plan/panic now rather than arriving and struggling with costs on top of all the other new things and budgeting together is sensible and not overkill.
Work out exactly what he will get, what you will contribute and his likely costs - depending on where he is applying to. Then he will likely have to get a job and not his dream job unfortunately. The sooner he starts looking at the type of things on offer job wise in the place he will be the better he will be prepared.
He could also join forums for his uni choices and ask on there about the type of jobs that are most easily found.

fo2fo · 18/03/2025 13:29

Of course your DH and his ex need to sit down with their son to discuss how his university will be financed. If accommodation and living expenses will not be fully funded by loan plus parental contribution he needs to know that in advance so he can make informed decisions about his next steps.

But also your DH/his ex need to look at what is realistically required for students going to university - there is an expectation that parents will pay, and while not everyone can afford to do that, the very least that parents should do is be informed about what’s available/ what it will cost to support their child’s decision making

Motheranddaughter · 18/03/2025 13:29

If they want to go to a local University fair enough, but rubbish if they have to due to money

NancyJoan · 18/03/2025 13:28

There are very good universities in low cost cities/towns. My DD's friend is at Cardiff, paying very cheap rent. Friends in Exeter and Bristol paying significantly more. And DD in London paying absolutely thru the nose.

OrangeSlices998 · 18/03/2025 13:26

Honestly this is his problem to solve. He needs to find a job, and learn to budget like we all do. I had much much less help at uni and so instead of expecting my parents to fund it I got a job!

HeyThereDelila · 18/03/2025 13:25

Yes, you need to sit down and work out a proper budget, with him and ideally his DM if things are amicable enough.

Leave him in no doubt about how much you can help so if he needs a part time job and a summer job beforehand he can plan for that.

Hwi · 18/03/2025 13:24

Local uni, live at home.

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:22

crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:17

He’s lucky to get that, and lucky to have a stepparent who wants to finance him as an adult.

I’m not clear whether you’re a slightly higher earner than your husband, so really stretching yourself with this offer, or a billionaire for whom it’s small change, but either way you’re not unreasonable to want to make the boundaries clear to your husband, stepson and his mum. It does sound a bit like they’re all expecting you to be the back up for them all.

Not a billionaire, but I make more than double than my husband. He still makes below the average UK salary. I also had an inheritance which means we're almost mortgage free.

The point remains the same any financial freedom is thanks to my income/family inheritance.

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Nowvoyager99 · 18/03/2025 13:21

I arranged a grocery delivery for my DC every time they moved. Just the basic necessities plus some beer/vodka 😍

It made them very popular with housemates!

You sound very kind and very sensible. An excellent combination.

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:18

crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:09

It’s not his stepmum’s responsibility to support him at uni either.

SS has the appropriate loan and his dad’s continuing to pay the CMS-level contribution. OP isn’t obliged to pay anything on top and needs to make that clear.

Thank you I feel vindicated. I'm happy to help, but I want to make it clear to everyone that it's not my responsibility, so whatever he (or his sister) get on top beyond what their father can afford is out of good will.

My DD will have access to a much smaller loan, and I need to think about that, as she's only a few years behind.

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crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:17

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:09

We've agreed that we give him DSS around £250-£300 every month (term time). I'm more of the idea of doing the groceries for him and get them delivered, but I can see why could not be as educating as trying to manage it himself.

We'd then pay for some of the transport when he comes home, and that's kind of it. I'd have to discuss if he'd still get his allowance or if that's part of our contribution.

We do have joint finances although I make most decisions and budget accordingly.

He’s lucky to get that, and lucky to have a stepparent who wants to finance him as an adult.

I’m not clear whether you’re a slightly higher earner than your husband, so really stretching yourself with this offer, or a billionaire for whom it’s small change, but either way you’re not unreasonable to want to make the boundaries clear to your husband, stepson and his mum. It does sound a bit like they’re all expecting you to be the back up for them all.

Motheranddaughter · 18/03/2025 13:12

SeaSwim5 · 18/03/2025 10:26

Yeah, definitely not in my house. The student loan system (rightly or wrongly) assumes that parents will top up funding based on income, so that is what we do.

I certainly wouldn’t be telling my DC capable of getting into Oxford or Edinburgh to go to Bradford for cost reasons.

Me neither

crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:09

321user123 · 18/03/2025 13:03

That’s what a job is for… the majority of students need to have a part time job at least.

It’s not his stepmum’s responsibility to support him at uni either.

SS has the appropriate loan and his dad’s continuing to pay the CMS-level contribution. OP isn’t obliged to pay anything on top and needs to make that clear.

Feelingstrange2 · 18/03/2025 13:09

My DS moved away for an apprenticeship. He got a professional houseshare room and it cost about £450 (probably more like £550 now). All bills included. His apprenticeship paid him about £1000 a month net if I recall.correctly.

We had offered to pay his rent if he got a poorly paid apprenticeship (in line with the support we gave his sister) but he was fine on that. Even managed to run his car.

Soootired23 · 18/03/2025 13:09

crackashark · 18/03/2025 13:02

Good for him then if he is predicted good grades and has a plan for after uni. In your shoes I’d agree with you about it being the right thing to do.

Sounds like you need to speak to your partner about how much you’re prepared to do for SS before anything else (and it’s totally fine not to be personally financially supporting your adult stepson).

Do you have joint finances?

We've agreed that we give him DSS around £250-£300 every month (term time). I'm more of the idea of doing the groceries for him and get them delivered, but I can see why could not be as educating as trying to manage it himself.

We'd then pay for some of the transport when he comes home, and that's kind of it. I'd have to discuss if he'd still get his allowance or if that's part of our contribution.

We do have joint finances although I make most decisions and budget accordingly.

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