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Should DH add me on the mortgage?

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Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 15:42

I'm not sure if this is being posted under the right section but I need advice please.

I got married in Jan 2023 and moved to (big) city where DH lives.

Prior to that I lived in a smaller city. Had a decent job. No debts apart from a small bal CC being paid off monthly. I could save etc.

I had to quit my job for the move as my employer was a small local company.

The plan was to get a job asap before starting a family. Well we got pregnant with DC pretty quickly after..
DC is now 1.5 yo and attends daycare part time. I'm mainly responsible for all DC care and cooking, housekeeping etc as expected.

I don't get any reward for this and DH believes it's my responsibility as it's my 'contribution' to our home. He says if I need more money I need to find paid employment.

I resumed job hunting once DC started daycare. No luck yet.

We never discussed joint accounts etc as I thought the conversation would happen naturally. But currently I am not listed on any of our household documents, not on the mortgage or any bills. DH manages everything. He said there's really no need as he's happy to pay without my help.

We have no joint accounts. I do not know what DH saves or invests. I do not know his earnings etc he would give me a ballpark if I ask. He is in a specialist private sector and I am certain he earns a decent wage.

Is it possible that DH hides these things intentionally so I don't know how much money we have?

DH doesn't believe I should have any expenses apart from food and shelter. He believes doing things like getting my hair done is an unnecessary expense until I can afford to pay myself.

I now use my little savings to pay my CC monthly or to do things for myself. He says thr debt is mine . I'm not a reckless spender. I cann't even afford coffee dates with friends.

I really would like to go back to work as I do enjoy being financially independent and doing things for myself.

Having DC changed me and I completely lost confidence in myself and didn't think I was good enough to find a job. i'm just coming out of that and upskilling but DH somehow believes it's my fault for not finding a job.

I think DH sees me as a financial liability and I wonder if he is 'protecting' his assets so he has control over everything as the sole breadwinner.

I guess I need some advice or opinion on how to make this situation more fair but I don't know how.

YANBU: to request for DH to put me on the mortgage atleast.
And if so what difference will that make if I can't even contribute?.

YABU: DH doesn't need to put you on any documents.

We are legally married (for context regarding any advice). Anyone with any advise or in a similar situation? What's working for you currently?

Thanks for reading!!!

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 17/03/2025 21:15

There isn’t enough info to cry financial abuse. Most couples when one partner has been out of work long term, couldn’t afford to go to the salon for hair and nails. He is obviously worried about money, and trying to keep spends to the absolute necessities.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 17/03/2025 21:09

Why on Earth would you want to be added to the mortgage? You realise this adds you to a massive loan and that you are agreeing to take joint responsibility for this debt? The mortgage company wouldn’t add you anyway, you have to have an income to qualify to be added as a debtor.

Being on the mortgage gets you no rights over ownership of the house it is for either, you have that as his spouse/via marriage.

The main issue is no joint accounts and no communication of finances.

Seperate finances in marriage is what some couples choose but it should come with complete transparency and equality in decisions for whatever is “family money”

Most married couples have at least one joint current account for family expenses and one joint savings account for family financial goals (ie holidays birthdays, car, ) then separate personal accounts for own disposable income- that they are transparent about.

TunnocksOrDeath · 17/03/2025 21:08

Depending on the size of the mortgage, a partial transfer of property that puts you on the mortgage might incur stamp duty, so get proper advice before making any decisions, especially as in the event of a divorce your home is a marital asset anyway, if your DH owns it.
However, I think the bigger issue here is that you, as a couple, didn't sort out how the finances were going to work before your DC was born. It sounds like your husband was not expecting to have a wife who's a SAHM, and resents the fact that you haven't been working. He's doing a lot of unreasonable stuff, IMO, but some people need an agreed plan to keep them on the right path, and will do whatever they can get away with in the absence of one.

Tgfh · 17/03/2025 21:06

You have no income, he gives yoi nothing.
You need to claim CB and he then declares it.
You need this for your stamp for your future pension.
You need to do this urgently.

How old are you, and him?
Is there a gsp.

Abusive men love to isolate women, move them away from their security.

Pootlemcsmootle · 17/03/2025 21:02

Cattery · 17/03/2025 15:49

Can’t get your hair cut unless you get a job? What I’m reading is almost medieval

Yeah, this is really weird. He's bang out of order OO, isn't this financial abuse? Shitty behaviour on his part, that's for sure.

ThatNewMoose · 17/03/2025 20:59

Yeah he's financially abusing you

Bushmillsbabe · 17/03/2025 20:59

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:29

We tried getting child benefit but there's a salary threshold which his wages exceed so in essence we should be paying the government but it cancels out hence we can't claim and pay nothing. I would find a link

You can claim. My DH also earns more than the threshold. I claim the child benefit, use it on things for our girls like dance and swim lessons, any left each month goes into their savings accounts. He then fills in a self assessment form at end of the year and pays most of it back, and I pay part of this tax bill as I work, but part time vs his full time. But doing it this way means I keep up my contributions towards my pension.

bakebeans · 17/03/2025 20:57

Sorry but if your DH is expecting you to contribute financially then all cards should be on the table.

I do think as others have said this discussion should have taken place before marriage

Moonnstars · 17/03/2025 20:56

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:19

Rather than admonish me how about you offer some advice! Thanks for commenting

I have on further comments if you read through the comments 🤷

Just pointing out initially that usually people consider these things before they marry and have children. It's one of those things you discuss when in a serious relationship e.g. reasonable things to have discussed include: shall we open a joint account for all our household bills; you earn more so you put in more, we both then have some personal spending money; I would like children and would like to stay home with them for the first few years, will that be possible on one income? Etc.

How long had you actually been together for?

Farmwifefarmlife · 17/03/2025 20:53

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 19:29

We don't have a joint account. His explanation is that why do I need to stress to see what we have going out and coming in when i'm not able to make any contribution yer. Almost saying I should not worry about finance but focus on getting a job. But I do not think that's sustainable as the Job is hard to get and essentially if it doesn't corne then I won't have any money.

Thanks for commenting

What sort of job are you looking for ?

Frostynoman · 17/03/2025 20:52

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 19:42

My phone bill is in my name which he pays for so yes I do have a line of credit already. I also have a small CC. Yes i'm quite young and my initial post was to get life advice but changed to AIBU. I didn't think I was entitled to his earnings as he is providing everything I need. Holidays. Birthday gifts etc. But I have no money of my own. I didn't want to think i was entitled esp as he pays for everything else

He is NOT providing everything.

He moved you away from your secure income.

You should not have to go cap in hand asking for x, y or z for yourself - he sounds controlling with a good front to him.

Clearingaspace · 17/03/2025 20:51

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:29

We tried getting child benefit but there's a salary threshold which his wages exceed so in essence we should be paying the government but it cancels out hence we can't claim and pay nothing. I would find a link

You/your dh won’t be getting extra income from claiming the child benefit right now but you will be earning ‘years’ on your national insurance record if you claim child benefit in your name while you are not employed - this will help you to be eligible for the full state pension in old age https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/benefits/benefits-if-you-have-children/protecting-your-state-pension-when-you-have-a-baby

LurkyMcLurkinson · 17/03/2025 20:50

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:32

I looked in detail and no nothing rings true apart from the last parts of the economic section thankfully

In that case I think you need to have a frank discussion with him and explain that his behaviour is financially abusive and outline basic expectations of him, including adding you to the mortgage, a full disclosure of your family finances, you claiming and repaying child benefit (to gain qualifying years for your state pension)
and you being able to have your needs for basic material items met consistently. It also may help him to see things more clearly if you talk to friends and family about how they manage family finances and highlight how poorly and disrespectfully he treats you compared to how other men treat their partners.

heroinechic · 17/03/2025 20:50

I don’t think the mortgage/deeds thing is a big deal. I owned a house before I met DH and I’ve never even considered putting him on the deeds and mortgage, why would I? In fact, we’re moving shortly and I’m buying the new home in my name only - mainly because his credit score is crap and we don’t need a big mortgage so can afford it on my own. None of it matters. We’re married, so he has matrimonial rights. I cannot force him out the house without a court order even if I wanted to. If we were to divorce, the house would be considered to be a matrimonial asset and he has a claim over some of it (if not half of it).

However, all of our money is shared (my salary pays all bills and we live off his salary). There is no asking each other for money, it’s understood between us that it is ours and it’s been that way since we had a child.

It doesn't sound like your DH respects you as an equal partner. He isn’t sharing information with you or discussing financial matters or decisions.

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:49

ScaredOfDinosaurs · 17/03/2025 16:36

The job is the key thing. You have zero leverage at present.

I'm going to go slightly against the grain here, if the agreement was that you'd get a new job and haven't, he's probably annoyed about that.

Having said that, the lack of transparency around finances is not good.

You need to talk to him properly. What does your expected take home pay look like compared to his? Let's say you start working again, same salary as him, same hours.

At that point, you'd both need to be paying 50% and doing 50% as a starting point.

Talk to him! You're married, you should be transparent with each other.

I used to earn about half of what he earns. Thank you very very much for not giving me any criticism..... I did ask him casually and he mentioned he couldn't put my name as he got the home before he met me clearly and he is due to remortgage in 2 years and would be adding my name then.

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Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:45

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 17/03/2025 16:32

Not giving you any access to family money is financial abuse. Its really not normal for one party to the marriage to have a decent amount of the disposable income and the other to have nothing above food and shelter. Really not OK. Adding you to the mortgage just means the debt is yours, which won't help.

Is he willing to pay for childcare and do half of pick ups drop offs sick days etc to support you getting a job? As getting a kid settled into childcare whilst you settle into work is tricky, lots of nursery bugs etc

Yes he does pick ups and all and works from home FT except work trips. He has also mentioned he is happy to pay for an extra hand if the need arises for eg if DC is home unwell. He's happy to foot any extra bills as long as they're not mine. He's also supportive with me finding a job but mainly so I can have 'my' money and not depend on him. Thanks for commenting.

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Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:42

Emanresuunknown · 17/03/2025 16:58

OP how certain are you that you are legally married? The whole thing just sounds odd, why would you marry someone without having some of these discussions. If you aren't on any paperwork, how much did you involve yourself with the legal aspects of wedding arrangements? Being a 'homemaker' is a very vulnerable position to be in and I'm concerned you sound quite naive to have got to the point of marriage and having a child with a man without having had these more serious discussions. How certain are you that you are legally married? Did you go and give notice of your intention to marry etc at the register office?

Are you asking if i'm sure of the legality of the marriage? I was there so yes i say I'm pretty sure and I have all the docs and we did go through the process together. What a weird angle.

I didn't have these discussions because I was under the impression that getting a job would be a breeze and we would have joint accounts and all and the conversation would arise then. But things have taken a different turn since i'm been unable to find work. Hence mt thread. Thanks for commenting

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Iwanttoputmytreeup · 17/03/2025 20:40

@Rorymyers It's not purely about the actual money coming in from child benefit. Irrelevant of what he earns you need to claim it in your name, he will get it deducted through his tax code BUT it gives you a National Insurance contribution for every year you don't get one from work. You need to get, I think, 35 full years of contribution or you won't get (a full) state pension in your own right.

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:38

coxesorangepippin · 17/03/2025 15:49

You need to get a job and get on the mortgage

If he doesn't put you on the mortgage, get a job and then leave him

He's fleecing you, big time.

Got it!!! I do need a job. I probably didn't highlight it enough in my thread.

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Rosesanddaffs · 17/03/2025 20:38

It sounds like he considers his money to be solely his. I’m sorry but he sounds like an arsehole, you are his wife, not his maid!

He sounds very much like my ex-husband and unfortunately when there’s this kind of financial abuse its a very rocky road ahead xx

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:37

PinkyFlamingo · 17/03/2025 16:06

About what? You were asked a question

MN keeps messing my quotes haha. Gosh the page keeps jumping and I end up responding to the wrong Pp. I'm not a bot I promise lol

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Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:36

JaninaDuszejko · 17/03/2025 16:27

Don't worry about being on the mortgage, as his wife and especially having a child with him you'll be entitled to a share of the house and his pension.

Firstly, and most importantly, start claiming child benefit NOW so you get years towards your state pension. Tell him if he earns over £60K he'll need to declare it on his self assessment but it's really important you get credit for the years you're not working so you don't end up in poverty in old age.

Secondly, tell him you want him to start paying into a pension for you, since you're not earning he can put £2,880 in per year. There are tax benefits if he does this so if he doesn't that will tell you all you need to know about how financially abusive he is.

Thirdly, start looking for a full time job in earnest, ideally you want to be completely financially independent of him. You had a good job before, you will be able to find one again x. You should start investigating childcare options as well. If your DH doesn't want to pay for childcare remind him he effectively gets a tax rebate (this will help you gauge his income, on a very high salary he won't be eligible for tax free childcare but you should apply anyway and get him to provide any evidence if he's not eligible).

Fourthly, if he doesn't buck up his ideas and start providing gor you adequately then you need to divorce him for financial abuse. Hopefully when you start talking about it with him he'll come to his senses but if he doesn't you need independence and a court to decide how much he has to give you.

Thanks for your comment. It means a lot especially

. You should start investigating childcare options as well. If your DH doesn't want to pay for childcare remind him he effectively gets a tax rebate (this will help you gauge his income, on a very high salary he won't be eligible for tax free childcare but you should apply anyway and get him to provide any evidence if he's not eligible).

How does this benefit mw. We checked and are ineligible due to the salary threshold

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Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:32

LurkyMcLurkinson · 17/03/2025 16:08

Is he abusive in other ways or just financially?

I looked in detail and no nothing rings true apart from the last parts of the economic section thankfully

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AliceMcK · 17/03/2025 20:30

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:18

Thank you. Wow. Lots to unpack there.

Are you happy being a SAHM. Maybe if I was then I'ld be more content. But having had a job and a career I feel lost. And now my loss of income makes it more obvious thank you so much

Yes I am. I was never particularly career focused more I worked to live rather than lived to work. I was very happy when we (as a team) made the decision for me to stay home. If I ever go back to work it will be a part time to keep me occupied type role as my DCs get older. Right now though I have 2 in primary and one in high school, I do school runs for all, they also have full social lives and after school activities that I chauffeur them to and from. On quiet days I’m free to take them to the park or get an ice cream afterschool etc.. I have no restrictions like I would if I worked. And just to be clear we are not financially well off, we budget and scrape along to have this lifestyle, DH was earning £28k a year when we first made this decision.

Rorymyers · 17/03/2025 20:29

Tgfh · 17/03/2025 20:27

A man that won't give you a penny for yourself is not going to look after you financially.

Are you registered for child benefit so your stamp is paid?

This is not a man to trust for one minute.

We tried getting child benefit but there's a salary threshold which his wages exceed so in essence we should be paying the government but it cancels out hence we can't claim and pay nothing. I would find a link

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