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To not want to be DP’s tenant?

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barhumbug · 17/03/2025 14:24

DP and I have been together almost 4yrs. I moved in with him as he owns his own home and at the time we met I was in shared accommodation so it made a lot more sense. He has always wanted me to feel like it’s ‘my’ home rather than me living in his house but I can’t help but still feeling like I am. He’s never made me feel that way but it’s always in the back of my mind that I am and I hoped that one day this would change.

Since I moved in he has refused to allow me to contribute a penny to anything related to the house. I give a contribution to bills but that’s it. Mortgage, white goods that need replacing etc have all been paid by him 100%. I have offered to contribute to white goods but he has refused. I understand completely his reluctance to allow me to contribute to the mortgage as he doesn’t want me having any kind of claim to any part of his house if we were to split. Fair enough, I absolutely understand, he worked really hard to buy his home and I wouldn’t want to take away any part of that.

Due to an inheritance he has now paid off the mortgage in full so is mortgage free. Fantastic! He is now thinking about potentially upgrading to a bigger property with parking as we live in a very desirable area and parking is a nightmare. Plus maybe having an extra bedroom for guests to visit etc.

However, property is expensive here and the size/type he is looking at would be right at the top of his budget, meaning his living costs would increase a lot with a new mortgage. Basically, he could just about afford it on his own but it would be a stretch. His plan, as it currently stands is for me to pay ‘rent’ as a contribution to housing costs but I wouldn’t be on the mortgage or have a claim to any part of the house so he would keep everything in the event of a split.

Due to a combination of unfortunate circumstances when I met DP I was in the process of digging myself out of debt and had no savings. Since then I’m very proud of myself in that I’ve managed to completely clear my debts, rebuild my credit rating to excellent and have a few grand in savings. As such I have very little chance of getting a property on my own but we could easily afford a decent place together with our joint earnings.

Aibu in thinking I’m not ok with this? It doesn’t make sense (to me) for him to stretch himself super thin just to be able to keep 100% of the risk and responsibility of a new house while I pay him ‘rent’ and effectively build nothing for myself? I will obviously continue to save as much as I can anyway but I still would have no chance of buying my own place if we split in the future. He doesn’t have any immediate plans to buy, he’s thinking ahead for 5yrs time to enable him to
build a bigger deposit for a new place. He could change his mind in that time as by then we would have been together almost 9yrs but I’m not
sure I want take that risk. I see us very much as being in a long term, potentially life long partnership and I really want us to have something that is ‘ours’ and currently there is nothing. All our finances are separate, we won’t be getting married as he is staunchly against it. I’ve come to terms with that and I’m ok with it as I understand his reasoning but for some reason this feels like a hill I’m willing to die on. I’m sure he does love me and very much also sees us as a life long partnership but I know he also got badly burned by a previous long term partner and narrowly avoided losing his home when they split so I’m sure that’s a big factor here.

I just really don’t want to be his ‘tenant’. I want to be an equal partner and if this goes ahead I will still feel like I’m ’living in his house’ no matter how much he wants me to see it as ‘ours’. I can’t quite explain but it feels like the power dynamic would be totally off. I’m not even sure how the logistics would work, would I have a tenancy agreement etc?

I’m not sure if I’m making a bigger deal of it than it is? Tbh I’m only in the position I’m in now because of his encouragement and support and this feels a bit like I’m throwing my toys out the pram if I don’t get my way. I don’t know if it’s worth throwing away what is, in every other sense a fantastic relationship.

*We don’t have kids and will be staying child free so no need to worry about any of that!

OP posts:
C0RAL · 18/03/2025 18:30

He can receive approx £7500 pa tax free under the rent a room scheme

Yes he can, if he’s renting out a room to the OP. But he’s not, she is sharing his bedroom , she doesn’t have her own room. It doesn’t apply to cohabitees .

dementedmummy · 18/03/2025 18:30

barhumbug · 17/03/2025 14:24

DP and I have been together almost 4yrs. I moved in with him as he owns his own home and at the time we met I was in shared accommodation so it made a lot more sense. He has always wanted me to feel like it’s ‘my’ home rather than me living in his house but I can’t help but still feeling like I am. He’s never made me feel that way but it’s always in the back of my mind that I am and I hoped that one day this would change.

Since I moved in he has refused to allow me to contribute a penny to anything related to the house. I give a contribution to bills but that’s it. Mortgage, white goods that need replacing etc have all been paid by him 100%. I have offered to contribute to white goods but he has refused. I understand completely his reluctance to allow me to contribute to the mortgage as he doesn’t want me having any kind of claim to any part of his house if we were to split. Fair enough, I absolutely understand, he worked really hard to buy his home and I wouldn’t want to take away any part of that.

Due to an inheritance he has now paid off the mortgage in full so is mortgage free. Fantastic! He is now thinking about potentially upgrading to a bigger property with parking as we live in a very desirable area and parking is a nightmare. Plus maybe having an extra bedroom for guests to visit etc.

However, property is expensive here and the size/type he is looking at would be right at the top of his budget, meaning his living costs would increase a lot with a new mortgage. Basically, he could just about afford it on his own but it would be a stretch. His plan, as it currently stands is for me to pay ‘rent’ as a contribution to housing costs but I wouldn’t be on the mortgage or have a claim to any part of the house so he would keep everything in the event of a split.

Due to a combination of unfortunate circumstances when I met DP I was in the process of digging myself out of debt and had no savings. Since then I’m very proud of myself in that I’ve managed to completely clear my debts, rebuild my credit rating to excellent and have a few grand in savings. As such I have very little chance of getting a property on my own but we could easily afford a decent place together with our joint earnings.

Aibu in thinking I’m not ok with this? It doesn’t make sense (to me) for him to stretch himself super thin just to be able to keep 100% of the risk and responsibility of a new house while I pay him ‘rent’ and effectively build nothing for myself? I will obviously continue to save as much as I can anyway but I still would have no chance of buying my own place if we split in the future. He doesn’t have any immediate plans to buy, he’s thinking ahead for 5yrs time to enable him to
build a bigger deposit for a new place. He could change his mind in that time as by then we would have been together almost 9yrs but I’m not
sure I want take that risk. I see us very much as being in a long term, potentially life long partnership and I really want us to have something that is ‘ours’ and currently there is nothing. All our finances are separate, we won’t be getting married as he is staunchly against it. I’ve come to terms with that and I’m ok with it as I understand his reasoning but for some reason this feels like a hill I’m willing to die on. I’m sure he does love me and very much also sees us as a life long partnership but I know he also got badly burned by a previous long term partner and narrowly avoided losing his home when they split so I’m sure that’s a big factor here.

I just really don’t want to be his ‘tenant’. I want to be an equal partner and if this goes ahead I will still feel like I’m ’living in his house’ no matter how much he wants me to see it as ‘ours’. I can’t quite explain but it feels like the power dynamic would be totally off. I’m not even sure how the logistics would work, would I have a tenancy agreement etc?

I’m not sure if I’m making a bigger deal of it than it is? Tbh I’m only in the position I’m in now because of his encouragement and support and this feels a bit like I’m throwing my toys out the pram if I don’t get my way. I don’t know if it’s worth throwing away what is, in every other sense a fantastic relationship.

*We don’t have kids and will be staying child free so no need to worry about any of that!

You have a decision to make:

  1. Accept that he does not want you on the titles and pay rent to live with him. Take this as a warning that you need to understand would he have a different position if you were married. If not, I would be considering that you are Miss Right Now and not Mrs Long Term.
  2. Accept he does not want you on the titles and buy your own place. Same warning as above but at least you have something to fall back on.
  3. Raise the issue of a cohabitation agreement that states that in the event of a split after deduction of the mortgage balance and the deposit he put in, all equity is split 50/50 and he has first refusal to buy you out so he can keep the property. You are on the titles and mortgage. That way he has financial security knowing he can buy you out at a relatively small financial cost and you have security of walking away with at least some capital.
He is however not being unreasonable in not wanting you on the property when his contribution is so large - his reluctance to consider any options which give him security would make me pause for thought that he is not as present in the relationship as I might otherwise believe. Good luck
Longtimeloiterer · 18/03/2025 18:22

I hope you're stashing what you're saving away so that you can invest in property for yourself.

Something that you can fall back on.

1111111111111Bum · 18/03/2025 18:20

I’d call his bluff and say you’re not keen on the idea and will probably rent elsewhere because you need more security.

If he needs your money to subsidies this big house idea, it’ll put a stop to the plan before it’s even started.

KatyaKat · 18/03/2025 18:10

Josiezu · 18/03/2025 17:14

Because she wouldn’t be buying jointly because she has no money!

Can I suggest you read the thread?

She is able to contribute to a mortgage. Therefore why shouldn't she be able to, and build her own share of the equity in the house, rather than paying him rent and not building any equity?

His deposit and share of mortgage paid can all be fully protected. Not sure which bit you're not understanding

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/03/2025 17:40

femfemlicious · 18/03/2025 10:55

Why would she be homeless?. Where was she living before she moved in with him?.she can always rent somewhere to live

OP didn't mention timescales, femfemlicious, but said that she'd gone from being homeless to sofa surfing and then to "shared accommodation", whatever form that took

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/03/2025 17:28

I think you need to have an honest conversation, telling him you aren’t looking to profit but does he see his long term future with you or not

Considering OP's own words about the increased savings which would be "hers" if she didn't pay rent I suspect the ship's sailed on any claim of "not wanting to profit"

For me the overall point is that, "unfair" or not, he couldn't be clearer about what the deal is and yet OP's still opting to stay
That's her choice to make of course, but it really is a risky one

Josiezu · 18/03/2025 17:14

KatyaKat · 18/03/2025 16:32

Nobody is saying he has to house her, it's more the issue that he is not letting her buy jointly with him, whilst protecting his own assets. This therefore prevents her from buying on her own.

He can of course do what he wants, as can the OP, but in this scenario, personally I would walk away.

Because she wouldn’t be buying jointly because she has no money!

KatyaKat · 18/03/2025 16:32

femfemlicious · 18/03/2025 14:06

Exactly!. Men qre always expected to house women on here and put them on their deeds if she were a man, she would be a "cocklodger"

Nobody is saying he has to house her, it's more the issue that he is not letting her buy jointly with him, whilst protecting his own assets. This therefore prevents her from buying on her own.

He can of course do what he wants, as can the OP, but in this scenario, personally I would walk away.

cunoyerjudowel · 18/03/2025 15:08

If I was his friend advising him I would 100 advise him not to buy a house to live in with you but I also see your perspective

cunoyerjudowel · 18/03/2025 15:07

I can see both sides, you want to get on the property ladder, he wants to maintain his secure financial position and involving you in any way is a risk.

There is always the risk of separation which means all he has worked for, he may lose, so it’s important to ensure all his investment is secured and you are happy if he leaves it to others in his will.

you want to get in the property ladder- could you potentially instead of buying a residence with him
seek to invest in a buy to let? Therefore keeping it easier if there is a breaK? This way you can go in 50/50

ParsnipPuree · 18/03/2025 14:53

My dd is moving in with someone fortunate enough to be buying a house outright. Obviously I would expect it to be in his name but if they marry and have kids together? Not so simple then.

Maybe it’s foolish but at one stage the wealthier party has to put their neck on the line if they decide to have a family. I think you need to have an honest conversation, telling him you aren’t looking to profit but does he see his long term future with you or not.

PaterPower · 18/03/2025 14:42

You’re not getting married, so does he intend to leave his estate to you if he dies? Is there a will atm or does he plan to write one?

You could be homeless if you split or if he dies, so how does he intend to address that? Will he have life insurance to cover the rest of the new, bigger mortgage?

I think your current setup is fair enough and he’s effectively helped you dig yourself out of debt (well done for your discipline in doing that btw), but I would also be worried about housing security in your position.

You've done the right thing by addressing this head on. Give him a day or two to think it through then have the conversation again. If he’s still prevaricating, (or decides he’s firmly against), then you have your answer - and if you need more from your partner then he’s not the right one.

femfemlicious · 18/03/2025 14:06

Josiezu · 18/03/2025 14:03

Plus the OP could feather her own nest with the money she’s saving on not needing to pay market rents

Exactly!. Men qre always expected to house women on here and put them on their deeds if she were a man, she would be a "cocklodger"

Josiezu · 18/03/2025 14:03

femfemlicious · 18/03/2025 14:02

She gets a roof over her head. She would have to pay more elsewhere .cutting off the nose to spite the face

Plus the OP could feather her own nest with the money she’s saving on not needing to pay market rents

femfemlicious · 18/03/2025 14:02

KatyaKat · 17/03/2025 19:38

This. 100%. It's a hill I would die on; paying him rent just further feathers his nest, whilst you get nothing in return.

She gets a roof over her head. She would have to pay more elsewhere .cutting off the nose to spite the face

AvengersAssembIe · 18/03/2025 13:51

Clearingaspace · 17/03/2025 20:13

Wouldn’t you be more concerned that your dc make relationships based on love rather than someone of equal finances? Obviously no one wants their dc to be taken advantage of, but every poster has suggested that the op should get only a proportion of the new property not a 50:50 split.

I would rather they were independently financially secure, and could comfortably afford to exit a relationship when they want to, not feel trapped, that's all. Love fades, ime. Stats show it to be that way. Some relationships may go the distance, in which case, win win. But I want my kids to be prepared if they don't.

AngelicKaty · 18/03/2025 13:40

Tgfh · 18/03/2025 12:49

I'm spit balling! So thank you for the information.

Would he have to inform his house insurance and morgage company that he is doing this?

He is making financial decisions first and the OP is simply a useful pawn in this.

I don't blame him protecting what he has earned, but the OP needs to fully accept that his head is where he can full utilise and monetise their relationship so that HIS assets grow without fear of him ever having to share them, while enjoying the comforts of a paying partner providing house comforts and sex.

Only the most desperate of poor women would find this an attractive future.

And @MadinMarch has added to the information by posting earlier "He can receive approx £7500 pa tax free under the rent a room scheme."
I also wouldn't agree to his proposal to pay rent in an upsized property without a vested interest in it proportional to OP's investment (i.e. deposit and mortgage payments).

AngelicKaty · 18/03/2025 13:36

@lazycats RTFT. OP's DP has made it very clear he will never marry anyone.

lazycats · 18/03/2025 13:05

If the genders were reversed we’d be telling the woman do exactly what your DP is doing to protect herself.

basically - do you see yourself marrying him?

Happyears · 18/03/2025 12:59

Josiezu · 18/03/2025 12:46

If he doesn't care what happens to her in the event of a breakup or his death, he's being a pretty rubbish partner.

And what plans is she putting in place to pass assets to her partner in the event of a breakup or death?
Or is it only men judged by the ludicrous suggestion to plan for his ex’s financial future in the event of a breakup?

I would say exactly the same if the genders were reversed. They should each care that the other is OK. In this kind of situation, the richer partner may be worse off than if he had used his partner's income to pay his mortgage, but that doesn't mean he should feel fine about protecting herself at the expense of her being left homeless. The point is that he will still have some assets to move forward with, and so will she. It's a partnership. It's not supposed to work in favour of one party and not the other.

Tgfh · 18/03/2025 12:49

AngelicKaty · 18/03/2025 09:37

She wouldn't be a tenant and nor would anyone else. As someone living with their landlord and sharing a kitchen, she would be an "excluded occupier" under housing law and the only right she would have is to receive "reasonable" notice, which could be as little as one week (although could be a month if she were to pay him rent monthly).
The point about him paying tax on any rent she pays is a good one though (although given the thought he seems to have given to his proposal, I'd be surprised if he hasn't considered this).

I'm spit balling! So thank you for the information.

Would he have to inform his house insurance and morgage company that he is doing this?

He is making financial decisions first and the OP is simply a useful pawn in this.

I don't blame him protecting what he has earned, but the OP needs to fully accept that his head is where he can full utilise and monetise their relationship so that HIS assets grow without fear of him ever having to share them, while enjoying the comforts of a paying partner providing house comforts and sex.

Only the most desperate of poor women would find this an attractive future.

Mrsbloggz · 18/03/2025 12:48

For me the only way forward would be to not live together, if you live together then you're working for him for free. And if I was in his shoes I wouldn't want to cut someone in on assets that I had contributed to and paid for myself.

Josiezu · 18/03/2025 12:46

Happyears · 18/03/2025 11:56

If OP shares this man's home and contributes to his mortgage for years or decades and then break up or he dies, she will end up homeless while he benefits from owning a house either outright or with more equity than there would have been without her contribution. This isn't fair on her.
If he doesn't care what happens to her in the event of a breakup or his death, he's being a pretty rubbish partner. Couples are supposed to care about each other's wellbeing.
There are other solutions than owning a house 50/50 together. She could own a smaller percentage than him, or instead of paying into his mortgage she could put the money into savings so at least she would have a deposit to buy or rent on her own.

If he doesn't care what happens to her in the event of a breakup or his death, he's being a pretty rubbish partner.

And what plans is she putting in place to pass assets to her partner in the event of a breakup or death?
Or is it only men judged by the ludicrous suggestion to plan for his ex’s financial future in the event of a breakup?

ThDanielDay · 18/03/2025 11:56

femfemlicious · 18/03/2025 11:03

Is he paying her for sex, she doesn't enjoy the sex?. Is she having sex with him for the house?

Somehow she's a free sex worker rather than her getting free accommodation and a free sex worker.

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