To think leaving UK is the best Option now

Its estimated that the us has a far higher level of heating poverty. It's about 7% here and 33% there.
The usa isn't one homogeneous lump, theres many people that need to pay for big old heating bills or air con bills

No, I think that most people look beyond the tabloid press and inform themselves. They are all too aware of human rights abuses, and rightly concerned about recent events in the USA.
No country is perfect, but it's certainly not wise to immediately assume that any one nation has all the answers.
There's a Saturday morning BBC programme with reports from all their correspondents. It's very interesting and informative.

Do you still live here?

It always amazes me reading people on MN bad mouthing the US and Arab countries. This country is in terminal decline and the laughing stock of the world.

But yeah, go ahead and laugh at the Americans who can at least afford to heat their homes and Arabs with their air conditioned lifestyle, while everyone here complains all winter about being afford to turn their heating on.

It’s like people on here are in some kind on denial about the absolute shitshow of a country their live in.

can you hear my eyeballs rolling?

"Davros · Today 10:59
Have you actually experienced problems with the NHS? I have very varied and extensive experience of the NHS and overall I find it brilliant. I live very near a big London teaching hospital, lucky me, but I have relatives and friends in other areas who also have varied and good experiences. I think a lot of the reports about the NHS are media nonsense. I understand that there are problems, nothing is perfect, but that’s all we ever hear about. As a PP said, why not get private healthcare here? Then you’ve got a proper comparison."

yup definitely had problems with the NHS on multiple occasions including emergency care AND I worked there and saw it from the inside and it was a shit show.

OP - are you at work this morning/lunchtime/early afternoon or at home on the sofa surrounded by brochures? Why anyone would want to leave our green and pleasant land for desert to secure child care makes no sense

third world hellhole
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Such hyperbole!

You are not wrong. This country’s descent into a third world hellhole is almost complete. Get out while you can.

Those who go on about US healthcare and Dubai being oppressive and all that would probably never be allowed there anyway, since they have nothing to offer those countries. So the best they can do is make excuses for this country’s decline.

That's a huge generalisation. Not true of some of the British people I know who have emigrated and not true of many of the immigrants in my local area - particularly women. Irish and Scottish people have been emigrating for years and for the most part integrate well into local communities.

Its difficult to properly price up changes in country

Its a bit like looking at a London wage, and house prices in the midlands in a dodgy area, and calculating off peak travel costs. For example i could completely miss a good 20% of costs forgetting that lots of usa advertised things don't include tax, and tipping for example.

Dubai is a great example of this. There's lots of "hidden costs" . It's in the top 20 most expensive cities because the food costs, and bills are high. Because of the heat (and style of living) the cost of activities for kids for example is high, no one is really taking their kids for a walk along the beach etc its a lot of paid indoor activities, and you end up adopting a different (more expensive) lifestyle. You'll also find its a ghost town in the summer so most people come back to the UK, flights rocket in price and lots of people keep a property in their original country

California for example is notoriously expensive property wise, and you'd presumably need to live commutable distance (remembering the lack of train infrastructure ). The standard lack of AL means it will be tricky to come home at any point. A lower wage in the uk would also include maternity provision, sick pay, Annual leave pay and employment protections eg notice periods (and depending if its fire at will), and the culture of unpaid overtime is significantly less. You may find that evens out the wage significantly before even beginning to look at health insurance costs

Its even costing up reliable child care, and how expensive it is to live without reach of family and friends. It's silly stuff like the cost of not having people to help you with tasks and being reliant on paid help.

I’m assuming (hoping) you’re sarcastic there.

But yes the old ‘Im not an immigrant, I’m an expat’ vibe…

Fwiw I think expat ps are worse. They arrive and refuse to blend in the country Theyre living in. They think they know best. Stay in little groups of people of the same origin/country than them.
Think Brits in Spain who replicate the whole let’s play quoits or cricket with team etc…

Immigrants normally want to integrate themselves

Sounds like you've made your mind up tbh OP. When are you off?

This is interesting. How have you been welcomed?

We left the UK for France after Brexit - taxes are higher here but healthcare and public services excellent.
Dubai and the US would be at very the bottom of my list of places to live and raise a family.

If you haven't slagged off OP for her misuse of the word "there/their" or "illusion/delusion" then my post isn't for you. If you have then it's not an odd post. Making personal digs at someone's use of language when they can be perfectly understood undermines your views because your own values come in to question.

Exactly

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Odd post considering the content of her posts is the majority of the discussion.

No, but the OP has said the want the cheaper option.

It'll be a woman from the Philippines who has had to leave her own children to escape poverty and clean up after rich expats.

If they are genuinely high achievers they can usually have higher levels understanding about complex and nuanced social issues such as immigration.
And the ability to read the room...

But surely it would be up to you how much you pay them. It's not compulsory to pay poorly.

You can completely disagree with OP without resorting to personal insults about spelling and grammar. Despite virtue signalling your more liberal politics you are showing yourselves up to be just bullies at best and ablist/elitist bullies at worse. Many people with dyslexia can go on to earn high incomes. Many people from poorer educational backgrounds can also go on to have high paying jobs. Don't come at people for holding discriminatory views whilst holding them yourself.

Oh and some people just have fat fingers and/or brain farts. That's ok too. Focus on the content of what someone says not the way they say it. You'd still have been right.

This! And the thought of entrusting my kids to someone in a country I'm unfamiliar with, who is doing the job for slave wages is terrifying.
I really can't comprehend some people's priorities.