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To find this incredibly irritating and rude?

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Whatonearth17 · 16/03/2025 16:56

Name change for this and I’m sure I’ll get flamed…but here we go…

I’m a Welsh speaker living in Wales and have an accent when I speak English. It’s a lovely thing and I love other people’s accents. I’ve just returned from shopping where an older English speaking ‘gentleman’ asked me to get something he couldn’t reach for him. I did him the favour and was polite to him at which point he repeated what I said in an over the top mocking Welsh accent. It is the THIRD time this week that a variation of this scenario has happened. Once at work (which I pushed back on) once when I was in the park with the kids and decided I couldn’t be arsed to say anything and today. Why do people think this is ok? The guy today in particular was patronising and belittling and quite frankly just rude. Would we do this to someone with a German/ Chinese accent? Or any other accent? Heritage? To their FACE? When it has happened at work and I can definitely identify their linguistic background, it tends to be people with one language? Multilingual people tend to do it far far less. I just find it so rude and ignorant.
YABU - it’s just banter
YANBU- let’s stop copying people’s accents shall we?

OP posts:
DanDin · 17/03/2025 14:14

Gwenhwyfar · 16/03/2025 19:09

Yes, or the Welsh people DO have a Welsh accent, but not the same one as OP because she is a Welsh speaker.

@Gwenhwyfar, I'm a Welsh speaker (mother tongue), but from nearer the borders. People are usually surprised that I speak Welsh. My accent isn't particularly Welsh.

The accent varies a lot within Wales. I say the odd word or phrase in a Welsh way.

I'm itching to correct 'dyn hen' above.

StrawberryDream24 · 17/03/2025 10:17

brigidsexcitableaunt · 16/03/2025 20:41

I have a crush on my short, stocky, bespectacled plumber. He's a very nice man but I think his northern Irish accent is what makes the blood rush to my pelvis.

Not another one 😀

There must be some gene/DNA mixing thing at play.
I would prefer almost any other accent.

(And I'm sure loads of men have looked at me, then I opened my mouth and they were like "uuuugh, Northern Irish/Irish".
Especially because many English people seem to perceive us as peasants).

LastHeraldMage · 17/03/2025 09:34

When I'm away, normally in the USA, when someone says that, I reply with "I don't have one, you do" 😁

DanDin · 17/03/2025 08:37

@Gonners, xenophobic and rude.
(literally they are stranger-hating and shameless but in this context they are as above. Extroverted is allblyg.)

Online translation apps generally can't cope with Welsh.

dnadiscoveryquery · 16/03/2025 22:46

Gwenhwyfar · 16/03/2025 19:01

No. Welsh speakers from ANY area of Wales can have an accent that identifies us as Welsh speakers.

Ok, I was just talking about North Wales in particular as that’s where I’ve grown up and therefore my experience. Didn’t mean any offence.

hereismydog · 16/03/2025 22:45

What a horrible man! It’s a lovely accent, very friendly.

I always do a Welsh accent for Fox when I read The Gruffalo to DS Blush

nameychangey1112 · 16/03/2025 22:05

Gwenhwyfar · 16/03/2025 20:51

It's been said many times so obviously not very interesting any more. Also, do you really think OP can't tell the difference between this and being mocked?

As I said I didn't read previous comments. Yes people might not be able to tell the difference. Sounds like you have extra time in your hands to write this reply to me. Bravo.

SnoopyPajamas · 16/03/2025 21:41

I've got an unusual accent too and I hate when people imitate it. I've always found that as rude as you do. They think it's a great laugh and ever so cute of them, but if I was to turn the tables I know they'd be mortally offended. So it's not really a bit of fun, is it? It's a joke at my expense. It's a bit mean, and frankly rude.

I also hate the way some people feel entitled to demand your life story, the minute they detect an accent. I'm just trying to exist in the world and go about my day. I don't feel like sharing my life history with some total stranger! It never occurs to them that I don't owe them a conversation, just because they're curious.

Studyunder · 16/03/2025 21:34

Notonyourjelly · 16/03/2025 17:22

Yep, I'm Scottish and have experienced this. They wouldn't do it to their boss. Or their doctor. Or a client. So don't do it to me.

Scottish and I started getting bored of it about 20 years ago, now I really dislike it. I can’t ever recall a woman doing it though. Only men older than me…. 🤔

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 16/03/2025 21:30

I've experienced this with my RP accent, most often when I lived in the North. I suspect not as often as you're experiencing it though.

It's the sort of thing which might be banter between close friends or family if they know it won't offend, but which is otherwise incredibly rude.

I'm not counting those who unconsciously imitate an accent, but it's usually pretty clear who's who!

Merryhobnobs · 16/03/2025 21:24

Many years ago I had a friend and her friend come to stay with us for a few weeks whilst they were job hunting. They had just been on holiday to Dublin and thought it was hilarious to keep saying things in a fake Irish accent. My Northern Irish husband hinted very politely it wasn't very funny. They kept at it. I wasn't very well at the time, had tricky family stuff going on, my husband had just been promoted to a new stressful role and the constant tee hee hee we are so funny just drove us demented. They were really offended when they wanted to extend the stay and we said no. I did actually lose her as a friend. I am sure she saw it as my siding with a boy (we were not married at that point) and therefore being a terrible friend. But please mocking someone's accent can be just rude and that with other stuff just tipped us over the edge.

derxa · 16/03/2025 21:17

RobertaFirmino · 16/03/2025 20:41

Scouser here. I live elsewhere and am told to 'eh, eh, calm down' on a weekly basis.

FFS 🙄 People really are twats.

latetothefisting · 16/03/2025 21:09

Whatonearth17 · 16/03/2025 17:17

@AllTheAll I’d like to believe it wasn’t malicious but this one definitely was 😬 He repeated what I said in a mocking way and then said ‘and you speak like that all day do you?’ I actually LOVE it when people ask about the language and want to learn words and engage ❤️

"Nac ydw, dyn hen, fel arfer dw i'n siarad yn fy iaith gyntaf," (or anything else in Welsh) smile and walk away. Would have driven him mad trying to work out what you said.
But serious, why a) mock someone speaking with a welsh accent in wales and b) mock someone who has just done you a favour?! weirdo

FNDCausedByAntipsychotic · 16/03/2025 21:07

Giggorata · 16/03/2025 17:48

I've had people put on an exaggeratedly upper class accent around me. I’m not, I just speak RP.
I just smile awkwardly and edge away.

Same. I have an American friend who says I sound like the late Queen Elizabeth 2. I get called posh. I'm lower middle class, barely.

ScanningQRCode · 16/03/2025 21:05

brigidsexcitableaunt · 16/03/2025 20:41

I have a crush on my short, stocky, bespectacled plumber. He's a very nice man but I think his northern Irish accent is what makes the blood rush to my pelvis.

Yeah a school run dad is Irish. I go weak. Irish accents have always done it for me though. School run dad is also extremely grey haired and distinguished and also a very kind man. He once helped me up after my arthritic and 10 years older than him knee gave way with such kindness. (So literally weak at the knees!!)

Vallmo47 · 16/03/2025 21:03

Agreed OP. It’s not banter, it’s just plain rude. My husband has been teasing me about my Scandinavian accent occasionally for years and now the kids think this is acceptable - we mock mum for how she speaks. Ridiculous and I’ve had a serious word with ALL of them. I wouldn’t dream of mocking their attempts at speaking my native tongue, but of course it’s nowhere near as good as my English. I wouldn’t dream of commenting - it would put them off ever speaking it again!

latetothefisting · 16/03/2025 21:01

JLou08 · 16/03/2025 17:00

I've had people mock my northern accent when I'm down south. It's never bothered me, I see the funny side and usually try and return but my attempt at other accents is rubbish.

that's still rude, but the key difference here is that they were mocking OP's Welsh accent while themselves living (and/or working) in Wales

Which just makes it bizarre, surely they are surrounded daily by Welsh accents, why would it even register?

Cabotine · 16/03/2025 20:58

My accent is mocked pretty much every day by my own family and strangers… I’m so self conscious about it..I feel so dumb, I have been 25 years in England and you would think I’m fresh arrived :(

GinAndJuice99 · 16/03/2025 20:58

whynotwhatknot · 16/03/2025 19:34

for an englishman to do that in wales is very rude an odd-im english go to n.wales alot ido get mimic alot as im from london/essex they think its quite funny-would never mimic back thoughh

It’s not clear that he was English though.
OP just said English speaking

brigidsexcitableaunt · 16/03/2025 20:53

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 16/03/2025 20:47

YANBU. People who think that the fact they are doing it because they 'love your accent' makes it a compliment are ignorant idiots. It's the sign of an uncultured, clueless monolingual thicko.

Why do so many English people seem to regard other people's accents as either weird/unattractive or sexy, instead of just normal? Literally everyone in the world has an accent.

It's not just monolingual people or English speakers. The parisians who study aerospace engineering in Toulouse give the locals a hard time for their accents.
People in the north of Spain will tell you they don't have an accent, because they see their Spanish as natural, correct Spanish and other native speakers' Spanish as strange and wrong.

ChateauMargaux · 16/03/2025 20:52

I am in the same position as @SpanThatWorld's mother. - I have lost all trace of my accent. I moved from Ireland to England when I was 18 and very quickly got fed up people asking me to say things and saying 'your accent is so cute'... I also witnessed the bullying of one of my classmates because he said certain words in a strong Irish accent and I cringe at how I failed to protect my best friend from being bullied by a group of friends we went on holiday with - they spent the whole week saying 'potatoes'. I definitely think there is an element of perceived social status about this type of bullying and I see similarities in the history of the suppression of the Welsh and Irish languages and culture. The English that is spoken in Ireland, is not the same as the English that is spoken in England.

Saying that - I moved from one part of Ireland to another when I was 16 and hated the accent in the new place, so much so, that I obliterated my own accent and held on to a 'neutral' Irish accent. When I moved to England, it was relatively easy for me to morph into a convincing, fairly relaxed, southern English accent. I do however, pick up and mimic accents, wherever I am and find the conversation flows more freely when I do so. I used to speak in an American accent when on conference calls with US colleagues, it resulted in fewer clarifying questions and more open responses from them. Now I live in France, I do still get the 'you have a cute accent' comments, so can't quite pull it off in French sadly! I have discovered that the Swiss have quite a unique accent when they speak in French, if I mimic that instead - it seems better somehow..

Eldermilleniallyogii · 16/03/2025 20:52

YANBU

Gwenhwyfar · 16/03/2025 20:51

nameychangey1112 · 16/03/2025 20:50

Hi op, didn't read comments so might have been said already, but there's a well documented unconscious trait called chameleon affect, or sympathetic accent syndrome. I know cos I do it (grew up with lots of languages around). Here if you'd like yo read : https://medium.com/the-shadow/unconscious-accent-mimicry-390f619ace35

It's the opposite of mocking you, people do it with empathy so mostly very empathetic people do it. It's really interesting.

It's been said many times so obviously not very interesting any more. Also, do you really think OP can't tell the difference between this and being mocked?

nameychangey1112 · 16/03/2025 20:50

Hi op, didn't read comments so might have been said already, but there's a well documented unconscious trait called chameleon affect, or sympathetic accent syndrome. I know cos I do it (grew up with lots of languages around). Here if you'd like yo read : https://medium.com/the-shadow/unconscious-accent-mimicry-390f619ace35

It's the opposite of mocking you, people do it with empathy so mostly very empathetic people do it. It's really interesting.

Unconscious Accent Mimicry

Or, The Chameleon Effect

https://medium.com/the-shadow/unconscious-accent-mimicry-390f619ace35

Gwenhwyfar · 16/03/2025 20:48

xteac · 16/03/2025 19:50

I'm West Country, work in Wales.
Workmates occasionally make 'oo-arr' and comments, and mimic the way I say certain words.
I give back as good as I get.

My Welsh boss has an English/borders accent; he impersonates his Mum, who has a strong West-Wales accent: Duw, Duw, <name>bach, etc.

Thinking back, I used to mimic my Dad's fairly strong accent.

It's meant as a mild piss-take in our case. Was certainly meant affectionately when Dad and I talked.

It sounds to me like your old bloke was trying to be amusing and completely misjudged it.

Don't you think there's a difference between banter between friends and colleagues and being mocked by a stranger?