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US democracy is about to die

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StandFirm · 16/03/2025 13:03

... So many indicators for this, the most recent is Trump calling for the DoJ to go after his enemies:

Dear American friends, I hope you find a peaceful way out of this. As for us here, I can only hope we keep the contagion at bay.

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Mrsbloggz · 16/03/2025 13:44

It's not looking good is it ☹️🥺

Goldenbear · 16/03/2025 13:39

BigDecisionWorthIt · 16/03/2025 13:27

How does the Alien Enemies act impact Western Nations?

Currently, the Alien Enemies act was invoked specifically for the Venezuelan organisation called Tren de Aragua (TdA). TdA are designated a foreign terrorist organisation who are a danger to the US public and US national security.

The Alien Enemies act allows for expedited removal (2-3 weeks process) for known terrorists and families and associates of terrorists.

So unless you are a member of this organisation or you have a family member in this organisation, this act is irrelevant.

Out of curiosity, are you against the expedited removal of known terrorists?

I mean I sure wish the UK could expedite the processing and removal of dangerous terrorists such as Abu Wadee...

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No offence but this is a good example of the cultural neuroses that dominates American politics, what about the real issues of public administration and you know, actual policies,this is all deflection and distraction, meanwhile freedoms are lost!

LizzieSiddal · 16/03/2025 13:38

It’s scary and happening I plain sight. Someone has got to start standing up to him.

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StandFirm · 16/03/2025 13:38

I've been hearing more and more that he has become president again in great part to take his revenge on those who got him out last time. That is chilling if true.

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StandFirm · 16/03/2025 13:36

Yes, this regime is about dismantling the rule of law. The fact that dangerous foreign criminals have no place in a country is cynically being used as a pretext to control everyone that is perceived as being an enemy.
The US is not at war with South Africa for example and yet its ambassador is being expelled from the US because, quote, he doesn't like Trump!

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LauderSyme · 16/03/2025 13:36

@BigDecisionWorthIt "How does the Alien Enemies act impact Western Nations?"

I didn't say it does, directly. But it's invocation is an indication of the fascist direction in which the US government is heading, and that affects us all. Just ask 1930s Europeans.

You are naive in the extreme if you think Trump will restrict himself to using the Act purely to remove terrorists. He already had the powers to do that.

Anyway, he doesn't care about terrorists when their agenda serves him and his positions. He supports them and celebrates them and pardons them.

Much like he doesn't care about rapists and criminals in the country. He talks about deporting all the illegal ones whilst importing Andrew Tate. He doesn't give a shit about the crimes, only the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

Maitri108 · 16/03/2025 13:31

I'm afraid it's happening at pace while the world watches. It's rumoured that Trump is deliberately creating havoc so that he can bring in martial law - nothing would surprise me.

People need to start acting rather than holding up signs. The fact that the Republicans are waving pom poms while he dismantles the state is a concern.

BigDecisionWorthIt · 16/03/2025 13:27

LauderSyme · 16/03/2025 13:07

I totally agree. Trump and his enablers are dismantling so many of the democratic norms and structures. He has invoked the Alien Enemies Act now too. Western nations need to start treating the US as an enemy state.

How does the Alien Enemies act impact Western Nations?

Currently, the Alien Enemies act was invoked specifically for the Venezuelan organisation called Tren de Aragua (TdA). TdA are designated a foreign terrorist organisation who are a danger to the US public and US national security.

The Alien Enemies act allows for expedited removal (2-3 weeks process) for known terrorists and families and associates of terrorists.

So unless you are a member of this organisation or you have a family member in this organisation, this act is irrelevant.

Out of curiosity, are you against the expedited removal of known terrorists?

I mean I sure wish the UK could expedite the processing and removal of dangerous terrorists such as Abu Wadee...

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LauderSyme · 16/03/2025 13:07

I totally agree. Trump and his enablers are dismantling so many of the democratic norms and structures. He has invoked the Alien Enemies Act now too. Western nations need to start treating the US as an enemy state.