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SwoopDog · 2025-03-16T11:22:05+00:00

I was trying to find somehing to watch on Netflix last night. Looked at crime documentaries. They're all about men killing women. Or men killing children. I like a bit of true crime sometimes, but it's actually too much. What the hell have we been putting up with over decades and centuries! There was a guest on Steven Bartletts Diary of a CEO who said the most dangerous person to a woman is her husband! I believe it. We've taken this shit for too long.

GarlicStyle · 17/03/2025 15:44

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 17/03/2025 15:39

Do you relay statistics like this to men you know?

What does your DH and other men close to you say when you tell them that you think that 96% of them are pervs, predators or peados

There is no way all of them are falling into your 4%

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I've got an image about this.

All crime docs are about men killing women!

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 15:39

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 15:32

It doesnt matter if only one man is killed.
Anyone being murdered is a tragedy. One group of people being routinely murdered by another group means there is trend, something that needs addressing.
The fact is, men are not being routinely by women. So it's a different conversation.

I honestly think there is a big difference between a quick woolfwhistle and being targetted or harrassed. I think plenty women would agree. They dont feel violated or concerned by a woolfwhistle. On the other hand if that woolfwhistle turns into a man/men following the woman, cat calling, approaching her then yes that takes it into harassment. You got to have some sense. It's like a woman at work could call me a catty name once- would I run off and tell HR? No. If they continued to do it then yes that's then bullying and I could take it further.

How can you tell which men are wolf whistling to just tell you how sexy you are from those who are likely to develop that behaviour into something more sinister?

Because it would turn into something more sinister wouldn't it! That's how you know! I could get into an argument with someone in the street over a car accident. They could be the type of person to just raise their voice or they could be someone who would floor me. I would know by what happens.

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 17/03/2025 15:39

SwoopDog · 16/03/2025 16:05

I'm glad you're in this discussion @Anchorage56
It is exactly men like you who whip out these empty statics to try and prove your point that its 'not all men'.

Obviously we know it's not all men, but can you remember the last time you were afraid for your safety in the presence of another person? When you felt a feeling of threat coming at you? When someone crossed your physical boundary? Because i can tell you for women it's constant.

I'll have a go at my own 'statistics'. I would say maybe 4% of men are completely decent and respectable. The majority are all varying shades of dodgy. Porn, strip clubs, prostitutes..they exploit the vulnerability of women. Emotionally and financially controlling relationships. Utter selfishness. Not seeing their partner as an equal. Texting and sexting. Groping. Being inappropriate with their words or actions.

And then the rest. Its a sliding scale. Maybe it is your 4% who actually go on to kill.

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Do you relay statistics like this to men you know?

What does your DH and other men close to you say when you tell them that you think that 96% of them are pervs, predators or peados

There is no way all of them are falling into your 4%

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 15:32

It doesnt matter if only one man is killed.
Anyone being murdered is a tragedy. One group of people being routinely murdered by another group means there is trend, something that needs addressing.
The fact is, men are not being routinely by women. So it's a different conversation.

I honestly think there is a big difference between a quick woolfwhistle and being targetted or harrassed. I think plenty women would agree. They dont feel violated or concerned by a woolfwhistle. On the other hand if that woolfwhistle turns into a man/men following the woman, cat calling, approaching her then yes that takes it into harassment. You got to have some sense. It's like a woman at work could call me a catty name once- would I run off and tell HR? No. If they continued to do it then yes that's then bullying and I could take it further.

How can you tell which men are wolf whistling to just tell you how sexy you are from those who are likely to develop that behaviour into something more sinister?

GarlicStyle · 17/03/2025 15:31

Happyinarcon · 16/03/2025 15:34

If you look at the crime statistics each year there seem to be over twice as many male victims as women. I guess men killing men doesn’t make for a good podcast

Yep, I was just about to reply that men kill even more men than women. This is, of course, reflected in film & TV - under the category 'Action' because, as in life, men mostly kill men when they're fighting each other. Women as fighting opponents are probably over-represented on screen but, as OP says, it's realistic to portray most murdered women as prey to male killers.

I think the ongoing campaign to de-glamourise murdered females is having an effect, albeit painfully slow. That's some small progress!

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 15:17

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 15:08

Ffs I dont need validation but it felt nice! I'm not going to pretend to be upset by it when I'm not.
As long you felt nice.....

And DV works both ways.

I knew you'd say this. My male apologist bingo card is filling up pretty fast today. You're a walking cliché
How many men are killed every week by their female partner? You'll be saying they asked for it next .....

It doesnt matter if only one man is killed.

I honestly think there is a big difference between a quick woolfwhistle and being targetted or harrassed. I think plenty women would agree. They dont feel violated or concerned by a woolfwhistle. On the other hand if that woolfwhistle turns into a man/men following the woman, cat calling, approaching her then yes that takes it into harassment. You got to have some sense. It's like a woman at work could call me a catty name once- would I run off and tell HR? No. If they continued to do it then yes that's then bullying and I could take it further.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 15:14

So sorry about your mum ❤️
The same happened to my aunt. Two kids on my street were murdered by their dad. That's just the ones i know personally. This needs to be talked about!

Thank you.
I'm sorry to hear that you have experienced something similar.

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SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 15:11

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 14:58

I'm mid 40s and I actually got woolfwhistled the other day whilst out for a walk. I liked it. I didnt feel harrassed. That's up to the individual if it makes them feel that way. And personally I would say being shouted and screamed at by your partner is far worse, but you never took that on.

No, it's not up to women to not be offended or to not feel harassed. It's up to men to stop behaving in that way. Your need for validation shouldn't mean other women have to put up with being harassed on the street.

As for your comments about domestic abuse. My mum was murdered by her male partner, I campaign and raise money to support women experiencing DV.
So yes, I do 'take that on'.

So sorry about your mum ❤️
The same happened to my aunt. Two kids on my street were murdered by their dad. That's just the ones i know personally. This needs to be talked about!

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SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 15:08

Ffs I dont need validation but it felt nice! I'm not going to pretend to be upset by it when I'm not.
As long you felt nice.....

And DV works both ways.

I knew you'd say this. My male apologist bingo card is filling up pretty fast today. You're a walking cliché
How many men are killed every week by their female partner? You'll be saying they asked for it next .....

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 15:03

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 14:58

I'm mid 40s and I actually got woolfwhistled the other day whilst out for a walk. I liked it. I didnt feel harrassed. That's up to the individual if it makes them feel that way. And personally I would say being shouted and screamed at by your partner is far worse, but you never took that on.

No, it's not up to women to not be offended or to not feel harassed. It's up to men to stop behaving in that way. Your need for validation shouldn't mean other women have to put up with being harassed on the street.

As for your comments about domestic abuse. My mum was murdered by her male partner, I campaign and raise money to support women experiencing DV.
So yes, I do 'take that on'.

Ffs I dont need validation but it felt nice! I'm not going to pretend to be upset by it when I'm not. And DV works both ways.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 14:58

I'm mid 40s and I actually got woolfwhistled the other day whilst out for a walk. I liked it. I didnt feel harrassed. That's up to the individual if it makes them feel that way. And personally I would say being shouted and screamed at by your partner is far worse, but you never took that on.

No, it's not up to women to not be offended or to not feel harassed. It's up to men to stop behaving in that way. Your need for validation shouldn't mean other women have to put up with being harassed on the street.

As for your comments about domestic abuse. My mum was murdered by her male partner, I campaign and raise money to support women experiencing DV.
So yes, I do 'take that on'.

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 14:37

SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 14:20

So just because you like the validation and ego boost you get from wolfwhistles, the culture should prevail?
Your ego boost being more important than the countless women and young girls who find it uncomfortable?

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I guess it's a divisive one. You hear from plenty older women who say enjoy the attention because one day you will be invisible, and then plenty women who dont like it.

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SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 14:20

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 14:00

Ffs there is a difference between a woolfwhistle and being groped. A man telling me I'm sexy, great no issue- a man sexually assaulting me? Er no I dont think so.

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So just because you like the validation and ego boost you get from wolfwhistles, the culture should prevail?
Your ego boost being more important than the countless women and young girls who find it uncomfortable?

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Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 14:00

SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 13:19

No one need to suck up abuse. I definitely don't teach my sons to suck up anyone shouting at them. I teach them self-love, self respect and respect for others.

And whistling someone on the street IS harrasment. I didn't like it when i was young. I don't like it now. I don't need a man i haven't chosen to be in a relationship with to tell me my bum looks good or touch my body for a quick feel.

So hopefully in 20 years we will have a better quality of men walking around who understand the word equality and respect.

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Ffs there is a difference between a woolfwhistle and being groped. A man telling me I'm sexy, great no issue- a man sexually assaulting me? Er no I dont think so.

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 13:56

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 13:19

I'm sure there was a time when a man might woolfwhistle a woman in the street and someone said to him you can't do that that's harrasment, and they would have said dont be silly. So let's remember these days when a woman shouts and screams at her partner and the man should just suck it up and not be a pussy.

There is a difference. Wolf whistling is harassment. It always was, it's just the attitude towards it changed.

Your use of language is displaying an ingrained hatred of women. I think you've let your mask slip here and I'd bet money on you being a man.

I'm mid 40s and I actually got woolfwhistled the other day whilst out for a walk. I liked it. I didnt feel harrassed. That's up to the individual if it makes them feel that way. And personally I would say being shouted and screamed at by your partner is far worse, but you never took that on.

Naunet · 17/03/2025 13:35

Anchorage56 · 16/03/2025 15:47

There was a study where it was shown 4% of men committed violent crime and of that it was 1% who committed the majority of crimes (persistent offenders). So that leaves at least 96% of men as men who dont commit violent crime.

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What's the bet rape and sexual abuse wasn't included in these violent crime stats, as is often the case.

Ilovecakey · 17/03/2025 13:33

steff13 · 16/03/2025 20:23

Do y'all have Snapped? It's a whole series about women killing people. There are almost 750 episodes.

Or wives with knives

FluffyDashhound · 17/03/2025 13:23

What documentaries i like things like this please.gibe names

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SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 13:19

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 13:06

I'm sure there was a time when a man might woolfwhistle a woman in the street and someone said to him you can't do that that's harrasment, and they would have said dont be silly. So let's remember these days when a woman shouts and screams at her partner and the man should just suck it up and not be a pussy.

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No one need to suck up abuse. I definitely don't teach my sons to suck up anyone shouting at them. I teach them self-love, self respect and respect for others.

And whistling someone on the street IS harrasment. I didn't like it when i was young. I don't like it now. I don't need a man i haven't chosen to be in a relationship with to tell me my bum looks good or touch my body for a quick feel.

So hopefully in 20 years we will have a better quality of men walking around who understand the word equality and respect.

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SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 13:19

I'm sure there was a time when a man might woolfwhistle a woman in the street and someone said to him you can't do that that's harrasment, and they would have said dont be silly. So let's remember these days when a woman shouts and screams at her partner and the man should just suck it up and not be a pussy.

There is a difference. Wolf whistling is harassment. It always was, it's just the attitude towards it changed.

Your use of language is displaying an ingrained hatred of women. I think you've let your mask slip here and I'd bet money on you being a man.

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 13:06

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 12:59

Like I said give it another 20 years and it will be classed as harassment

Don't be ridiculous.

I'm sure there was a time when a man might woolfwhistle a woman in the street and someone said to him you can't do that that's harrasment, and they would have said dont be silly. So let's remember these days when a woman shouts and screams at her partner and the man should just suck it up and not be a pussy.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 12:59

Like I said give it another 20 years and it will be classed as harassment

Don't be ridiculous.

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 12:56

SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 12:49

Yet somehow women manage to do all of the above and not harrass 🤔 Funny that

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Like I said give it another 20 years and it will be classed as harassment

Anchorage56 · 17/03/2025 12:55

SwoopDog · 17/03/2025 11:45

@Anchorage56 So you rather defend the average man, who most likely wanks to porn at home, laughs at sexist jokes other men make and rates women by their looks.

Rather than defending the average woman whose bum gets randomly groped on public transport, who gets unsolicited dick pics sent or whose husband cheats on her and blames it on her because she let herself go after childbirth. Got it 👍

Right so we've moved on from murderers and now on to men who cheat.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 17/03/2025 12:54

Yet somehow women manage to do all of the above and not harrass 🤔 Funny that

Indeed.
The the world is at the moment means we are going to see a rise in toxic masculinity not a decline. Some of the most powerful people in the world are openly antagonistic to women and the types of views held by Andrew Tate and the like are out there in the open and are getting a huge amount of support.