All crime docs are about men killing women!

do not say what my views are or are not. I say what my views are.

You certainly do @Anchorage56
They come through loud and clear.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ do not say what my views are or are not. I say what my views are.

Stop and take a minute! I'm talking about those people. Read my posts again. I dont think you should be involved in a thread that started off based on true crime documentaries and violent crime if it's too upsetting for you.

Don't be so patronising.
I'm not sure you fully understand that true crime documentaries are based on real, actual crime. There are people who experience these events and therefore want to challenge ignorant views.

And why does it matter that you were talking about a particular programme. Those are clearly your views.

Stop and take a minute! I'm talking about those people. Read my posts again. I dont think you should be involved in a thread that started off based on true crime documentaries and violent crime if its too upsetting for you.

I'm talking about the effin tv program! It was a program with actors.
I gave a real life example. And you're still trying to justify murder.

I'm talking about the effin tv program! It was a program with actors.

Are you for fucking real? Making murder understandable??

Have you any idea what it's like to have a family member murdered and to have people sympathise with the man who killed her?

Countless evils have been carried out by men of my own generation, but between the porn apocalypse and the likes of Conor McGregor, Trump, and Tate, and the celebration of hardman bullshit, it's terrifying to think of what's coming next.

I think if it was a woman who had murdered her husband after snapping at being verbally abused I think the same people would sympathise with a female killer. Its nothing to do with sex just their mindset about what makes murder understandable.

I thought exactly the same. Also there was a program called The Jury were a man took a hammer to his wife's head, went out to the shed, then came back and strangled her to death. Quite a few members of the jury were doing everything they could to excuse this man's actions. Women were sympathising with him and at one point someone said "she was asking for it wasn't she". Absolutely infuriating.

Unfortunately this is really common, I've complained about new articles which seem to excuse the actions of a man apparently driven to murder his wife.

When my mum was killed by her partner a number of people suggested she asked for it because she was leaving him for another man.

Was that the program that used actors in some kind of social experiment based on a real life court case?

I thought exactly the same. Also there was a program called The Jury were a man took a hammer to his wife's head, went out to the shed, then came back and strangled her to death. Quite a few members of the jury were doing everything they could to excuse this man's actions. Women were sympathising with him and at one point someone said "she was asking for it wasn't she". Absolutely infuriating.

what are you on about pluto TV has a channel about just female killers. It's all over YouTube and crime podcasts.

Theres is no way of proving whether or not most men value the women in their lives. But just remember there are plenty women who are happily married, happily dating, happily single. Plenty happy women in the world. It ain't all doom and gloom out there.

I do know there are plenty of decent men, including my DH and 2 BILs and a few male friends who I’ve known for many years. However, the difficulty we have is that we can’t know who is genuinely a good person and who is putting on an act.

My DM is a very bright woman, but she thought my F was a decent man. The reality was that he was sexually abusing my DSis and me. It came as a massive shock to her when we told her about it around 10 years ago.

I discovered that the husbands of a few friends weren’t the decent men I thought they were.

The reason the female crime docs stand out (other than the fact there are far less) is because people are amazed/horrified that women can do these things. Because of course its normally men. Like the baby killers like Lucy Letby and Beverly Allit. People cant believe it. Nobody for one minute thinks that women kill as much as men.

Men don’t live in fear of women.

And this is the point I've been trying to make to @Anchorage56

Nobody is denying that women can murder, abuse and generally behave terribly but it shouldn't be used to minimise the societal issue of toxic masculinity and violence against women and girls.

I saw that too and it was horrific, and definitely needs bringing to light.
I just hope people don’t use it as “look, it happens just as much to men”
I can’t stand people who bring up “but women do bad things too” the percentages are tiny. Men don’t live in fear of women.

I cant believe I'm having to explain this again- when I was talking about women being capable of behaving just as badly as men it was in relation to the posts where every little thing men do that's not saintly was being brought into the equation so at that point i pointed out that women are capable of bad behaviours too. Now do you disagree with that?

It wasnt toxic masculinity that I was disagreeing with it was OPs blatant prejudice to any human with a penis.

The 50% was a representation of the fact that roughly 50% of the population is male and plenty posters here were trying to suggest that it's MOST men who do these bad things. Now even just taking a woolfwhistle- how many cars with men in them drive past you without noise and how many woolfwhistle etc 🤔

I watched a two-parter on Netflix the other night about a case of very serious female on male domestic abuse ('My Wife: My Abuser'), @SwoopDog . Definitely worth a watch, but as you say, an anomaly amongst the sea of male-on-female related true crime docus.

At one point in the programme, a female detective cried as the victim related what his wife had done to him, and told him she was so sorry about what he'd been through. Cynical me does wonder whether she shows so much empathy towards FEMALE victims or has just become inured to it all when it's a woman.

Oh a couple more labels thrown in there! You can say what you want but when I do its suddenly gaslighting and abusive.

I said if we are going to include every tiny aspect of things a man could do wrong then at that point you cant deny that many women display just as bad behaviour

Just as bad behaviour? How many men a week are killed by their female partners?
How many men are raped?
How many men are subject to sexual assault or harassment for just going about their daily lives?

Toxic feminism was about looking into the future and putting another angle on where too much unfair negativity could lead.

You think calling out toxic masculinity is unfair?

So if that means I'm a misogynist- then no wonder you think 50% of the population are misogynist!

Where have I said that 50% of the population are misogynistic? I think you are misogynistic and I've based that on the things you've said.