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To think the average Londoner is better looking?

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raelech · 16/03/2025 09:11

I’m from a town near Manchester. Often go to towns nearby and into Manchester. There are all sorts of people of course.

I am currently in London and I can’t get out of my head that the average person here is much more attractive than the average person outside of London. I can’t place why. Is it that people here have more dosh for skincare?😂

OP posts:
Ginmonkeyagain · 16/03/2025 10:15

@Pluvia how rude - I'll have you know we Lewisham people are stunning! 😆

PrincessOfPreschool · 16/03/2025 10:13

MJconfessions · 16/03/2025 09:52

To be honest I do think certain areas have a look - like women from Essex, Liverpool, Manchester have a certain look

Ooh, I live on the border of London/ Essex. I wonder what our local 'look' is.

DodoTired · 16/03/2025 10:11

Well if you walk around Kensington or Knightsbridge that will be true. I notice this when I go there for lunch or dinner after living in Shoreditch which has a very different vibe and style 😁

80smonster · 16/03/2025 10:10

What a kind compliment. Thank you. I think it’s the diversity of the gene pool, at least that’s always been my assumption.

Pluvia · 16/03/2025 10:07

Former Londoner here. If you're a tourist you're likely to be walking around in 'nice' touristy areas full of other tourists who, by definition, will be well-off enough to have come to London for a break and will probably have planned their outfits and be taking loads of selfies — so full make-up and hair because they're making memories and they don't want to look rubbish. Plus the Londoners you're seeing (particularly at the weekend) are the people who can afford to live in those affluent areas of central London. Many of them will be wealthy incomers from other parts of the world and wealthy people tend to look good because they have the time/ money and boost their wealth and the next generation's genetic inheritance by marrying very good-looking people.

Get on a bus out to Tower Hamlets or Lewisham, the kind of areas where ordinary Londoners live, and you'll see more people like those from your home town.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 16/03/2025 10:07

Sidewinderer · 16/03/2025 09:49

I went out of London for a short break and there are a lot more chavvy people outside of London. Even the broke people of London didn’t look as bad as entire families looking how they looked.

The young girls dress too old. In London they tend to dress like they are going to play in the park and wear appropriate for the weather clothing, outside of London the small girls are wearing bodycon and adult clothes. It looks bizarre little breast buds popping out.

Outside of London people use too much fabric softener and it smells really strong. I think it is a class identifier to smell strongly of Lenor or Comfort.

The adult men wear football shirts for standard and have varying degrees of pot belly that they don’t try to hide.

The women have bad skin and bad dye job haircuts.

Classic . Are you David Attenborough?

Where is OP and exactly which part of London is she referring to? Chiswick? Harlesden? Hackney? The City?

FiveTreeHill · 16/03/2025 10:05

I mean London is full of people from all over the country and world, so I don't think that actually londoners look better. And tbh it's not something I've noticed

I think it's probably that
A) a lot of people are tourists, either there on holiday, for an event, a work thing and so these people will be putting more effort into their appearance
B) you get a higher proportion of rich people who have money to put into their appearance

PenneyFouryourthoughts · 16/03/2025 10:03

It must be the circles I move in but around the South East London corner I inhabit there's all sorts. No better looking or groomed than my home of origin in the East Midlands. Apart from (of course) the super rich in West London zone 1&2 who can afford expensive clothes, top-price hairdressing, personal trainers and beauty treatments on tap. The rest of us are just trying to get by in this expensive city like most people are in the UK now. That's my experience anyway.

StepawayfromtheLindors · 16/03/2025 10:00

DragonBalls · 16/03/2025 09:13

Grabs Popcorn

(And my retinol serum)

Me too 🍿

garlictwist · 16/03/2025 09:56

Tikeahulilly · 16/03/2025 09:36

I'm from a small city in Scotland and live in london and understand what you mean. I notice and my children notice it with smoking when I take them back. Groups of folk standing outside before then go in

I think it's more about the concentration of the people in the non London places. Eg) one main shopping centre in a place will be where everyone goes. So

Whereas in London it's larger, more areas for people to go so you don't have the same , plus tourists etc mixed in... with my smoking example you don't have 20 people standing outside one shopping centre smoking making it a thing.

Might be wrong but I have observed similar

I'm also in Scotland and find the same. So much obesity, smoking and poor dress sense.

Ritzybitzy · 16/03/2025 09:56

People in the south are less likely to be overweight, suffer underlying health conditions and are wealthier on average. This will impact appearance.

Sidewinderer · 16/03/2025 09:55

Sorry to say but even in the broker area of London not just zone 1.

arcticpandas · 16/03/2025 09:54

MJconfessions · 16/03/2025 09:52

To be honest I do think certain areas have a look - like women from Essex, Liverpool, Manchester have a certain look

Do tell.. what look does Liverpool women have? Not antagonistic, just curious since I've been there and didn't notice any special style.

Dutchhouse14 · 16/03/2025 09:54

Depends on area, but I think its more grooming than attractiveness, when I worked in London everyone made a lot more effort with their appearance and clothing than my surburban town. I used to effortlessly pick up fashion ideas etc just by observation and availablity of shops (pre online shopping!).
However there are deprived pockets in London where the above doesn't apply so it's also affluence

arcticpandas · 16/03/2025 09:52

I think people in all capitals tend to put more focus on their appearance. That goes for visitors going to the capitals as well. But no, I don't think Londoners are more beautiful than avarage, they are just styled. On the other hand if you go to Copenhagen (Denmark) or Stockholm (Sweden) you will see a lot of natural beautiful people.

MJconfessions · 16/03/2025 09:52

To be honest I do think certain areas have a look - like women from Essex, Liverpool, Manchester have a certain look

Themostbeautifulcats · 16/03/2025 09:52

I live in an area with high deprivation in the north east which I think shows in people’s faces, as well as not having the means to pay for better nutrition, clothes, haircuts, skincare etc. I used to work in London regularly and noticed the difference too. Also men were generally much taller.

My theory is that confident people are often the ones to move to the big city, and confidence often comes as a result of an unconscious bias towards more attractive people.

There are undoubtedly some mingers in London too - and those were the ones I attracted 😀

SwanOfThoseThings · 16/03/2025 09:52

I only ever see the zone 1 city areas of London (only go there for work) so there probably is a higher proportion of affluent people there - I tend to notice people are well dressed on average whereas I am not.

It doesn't bother me. I prioritise safety and comfort if I have to go to London, taking coats/bags that are most secure rather than most stylish, so I am less likely to get pickpocketed and looking a bit scruffier than the average person will suggest (correctly) that I don't have e.g. a high end phone and lots of money/credit at my disposal, that would make me an attractive target to muggers.

SonoPazziQuestiRomani · 16/03/2025 09:51

Greywarden · 16/03/2025 09:37

Errr... what? Londoners are way less friendly than people in the Midlands and Yorkshire, which are admittedly the only other bits of the country I have much experience of. Brummies and Black Countey folk being the friendliest of the lot.

I also strongly deny your claim that people from the 'regions' scowl / complain / blame more.

I realise we are both looking at huge generalisations here (which are in themselves broad enough to be ludicrous) but I genuinely don't get where you've managed to get your particular generalisation from.

Probably agree about general attractiveness - or at least levels of flattering grooming - being higher in London though...

Brummies and Black Countey folk being the friendliest of the lot.

Yy! The Venn diagram of people who think people from the Black Country are miserable, based on a tedious stereotype of the accent, and people who have actually spent any time in the West Midlands, is two circles bab.

cadooyahoo · 16/03/2025 09:51

The young girls dress too old. In London they tend to dress like they are going to play in the park and wear appropriate for the weather clothing, outside of London the small girls are wearing bodycon and adult clothes.

This is nonsense as a born & raised Londoner plenty of people here don't dress appropriately for the weather & put their dc in inappropriate clothes. London is big with a fair amount of people.

Ddakji · 16/03/2025 09:50

KimberleyClark · 16/03/2025 09:48

They probably don't eat. There was a funny bit in a Jay McInerney novel where two New York women ordered an omelette to share.

Of course we eat. But it’s true that portion sizes are often smaller in London - BIL used to own a restaurant in the West Country, we were astonished at the huge portions but he said that his customers wouldn’t like getting smaller portions as they wouldn’t feel it was value for money.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/03/2025 09:49

It’s basically weight - Londoners walk everywhere and clothes. Nicer and you can’t wear London clothes in my area, just not practical.

Sidewinderer · 16/03/2025 09:49

I went out of London for a short break and there are a lot more chavvy people outside of London. Even the broke people of London didn’t look as bad as entire families looking how they looked.

The young girls dress too old. In London they tend to dress like they are going to play in the park and wear appropriate for the weather clothing, outside of London the small girls are wearing bodycon and adult clothes. It looks bizarre little breast buds popping out.

Outside of London people use too much fabric softener and it smells really strong. I think it is a class identifier to smell strongly of Lenor or Comfort.

The adult men wear football shirts for standard and have varying degrees of pot belly that they don’t try to hide.

The women have bad skin and bad dye job haircuts.

cadooyahoo · 16/03/2025 09:49

Although it's not my fashion style I thought Liverpool had some very attractive people (facially) when I visited.

Wonderberry · 16/03/2025 09:49

I'm not sure about London compared to all cities, but I did go to a deprived northern city and I was surprised at how different the people looked there. I assume it was deprivation, leading to a poor diet, increased smoking etc.