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To think the average Londoner is better looking?

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raelech · 16/03/2025 09:11

I’m from a town near Manchester. Often go to towns nearby and into Manchester. There are all sorts of people of course.

I am currently in London and I can’t get out of my head that the average person here is much more attractive than the average person outside of London. I can’t place why. Is it that people here have more dosh for skincare?😂

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 16/03/2025 11:43

Small town = small mentality.
Big city = big dreams.

Lots of walking as others have said, but mindset too.

Londoners have a go get attitude, always on the go with chances of something happening at short notice.

Outside of London, I've found people don't take care of themselves as much and more interested in gossip.

Not everyone obviously, but majority.

crackofdoom · 16/03/2025 11:30

CarrieOnComplaining · 16/03/2025 10:33

You know the Zones on the TfL / tube map?

They aren’t really fare prices, they are boundaries for good looks. I’m not allowed in Zone 1. Which is where visitors and tourists generally spend their time so they only see our prime specimens.

Come to Zone 3 and you will find us, queuing outside Morley’s Chicken shops in our Primark leggings and hoodies. In Zone 4 they queue in their pyjamas and pink dressing gowns.

Now that the Elizabeth Line has been constructed it would appear that I was born in Zone 12 😳

AcquadiP · 16/03/2025 11:18

Greywarden · 16/03/2025 09:37

Errr... what? Londoners are way less friendly than people in the Midlands and Yorkshire, which are admittedly the only other bits of the country I have much experience of. Brummies and Black Countey folk being the friendliest of the lot.

I also strongly deny your claim that people from the 'regions' scowl / complain / blame more.

I realise we are both looking at huge generalisations here (which are in themselves broad enough to be ludicrous) but I genuinely don't get where you've managed to get your particular generalisation from.

Probably agree about general attractiveness - or at least levels of flattering grooming - being higher in London though...

Completely agree with you on this.
And The Mash Report did a sketch on it: 'Northern terrifies Londoners by saying "hello"' 🤣

m.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0ay9u1gg4

Flumperina · 16/03/2025 11:17

I live in Kensington and yes, the good looking people over the age of 20, are often the ones who can afford healthy food, are not overweight and probably exercise regularly and have enough money to dress well and get good haircuts or beauty treatments. Generally child free too.

I notice on my commute, the young women with expensive coats and accessories tend to be on the tube very early or late and look bloody miserable.

There are a lot of expats and foreign students and often they look a lot better dressed or naturally better looking than the locals.

mjf981 · 16/03/2025 11:04

You were probably in central London, seeing wealthy people.
It would be a different story if you went out to Romford or Croydon. There are some very rough people in many parts of London, mostly away from the centre.

Summer2025 · 16/03/2025 11:02

MrsPeregrine · 16/03/2025 09:40

It’s money. I’m willing to bet most of the people you are referring to are on weight loss jabs, live in generously sized houses, live lives with very little stress can afford to eat fresh organic food and have good skin care and have husbands earning big bucks in city jobs.

Half of Londoners live in flats and it is even higher for those who live in expensive areas like hampstead and Kensington. If you live in small spaces but have money there is the tendency to spend more on lifestyle like on expensive gym memberships and quality food.

Springhassprungxx · 16/03/2025 10:56

I always think this when l go to European cities but l thinkntheu dress nicely in general

Ddakji · 16/03/2025 10:55

Slimbear · 16/03/2025 10:50

I am in London occasionally -maybe because I don’t travel at peak times (when rich professionals are travelling) but I would say pretty ordinary looking, good and bad, and no one speaks.
i do notice many many dressed in black which is pretty boring.
Not so many fat but you aren’t going to live on low wage and be able to afford accommodation in London so can prob also eat well and afford the gym.

You do know that plenty of low earners live in London - they’re not bussed in from the provinces before dawn! Just had a quick Google - 22% of London housing is social housing.

Slimbear · 16/03/2025 10:50

I am in London occasionally -maybe because I don’t travel at peak times (when rich professionals are travelling) but I would say pretty ordinary looking, good and bad, and no one speaks.
i do notice many many dressed in black which is pretty boring.
Not so many fat but you aren’t going to live on low wage and be able to afford accommodation in London so can prob also eat well and afford the gym.

Mistletoewench · 16/03/2025 10:48

Ginmonkeyagain · 16/03/2025 10:44

Joking aside, I think there is more of a dressing up culture in some Northern cities.

I remember a few of us travelling up to Liverpool for the weekend, we went straight out as it was a Friday night. We were dressed as most Londoners would be for Friday night drinks - smart casual workwear - may be a bit of extra lippy or a nicer top. We felt very dowdy as all the local women were dressed up with beautfully done hair and make up.

I recently went to Leeds and most of the young girls were dressed beautifully for a night out, really polished.

Gnarab24 · 16/03/2025 10:47

garlictwist · 16/03/2025 09:56

I'm also in Scotland and find the same. So much obesity, smoking and poor dress sense.

I think the word you’re looking for is poverty.

Ginmonkeyagain · 16/03/2025 10:44

Joking aside, I think there is more of a dressing up culture in some Northern cities.

I remember a few of us travelling up to Liverpool for the weekend, we went straight out as it was a Friday night. We were dressed as most Londoners would be for Friday night drinks - smart casual workwear - may be a bit of extra lippy or a nicer top. We felt very dowdy as all the local women were dressed up with beautfully done hair and make up.

cadooyahoo · 16/03/2025 10:41

@Ginmonkeyagain

As someone with French family yes & no! 😆Many French (particularly older) think our fashion sense is a bit odd, kooky, voluminous. Depends if you value that opinion or not.

MarigoldCherry · 16/03/2025 10:41

arcticpandas · 16/03/2025 09:54

Do tell.. what look does Liverpool women have? Not antagonistic, just curious since I've been there and didn't notice any special style.

Nothing negative at all about Liverpudlians, my Grandpa was born in Liverpool and I love it there. It’s hard to describe without hearing their accents I could tell that John Bishop and Jodie Comer were from Liverpool, they just have the look.

LlynTegid · 16/03/2025 10:40

I live in outer London now. I had an uncle in Manchester who I used to visit from time to time, and until recently a supplier who I visited.

My experience and opinion is not that of the OPs.

BettyWont · 16/03/2025 10:37

I've never really thought about it OP but I agree.

BarneyRonson · 16/03/2025 10:34

I used to think london had a higher proportion of good looking people, but not nowadays. There are tons of very unsmiley unfit looking people in scruffy clothing wearing no colour at all. Black puffa jacket uniform.

CarrieOnComplaining · 16/03/2025 10:33

You know the Zones on the TfL / tube map?

They aren’t really fare prices, they are boundaries for good looks. I’m not allowed in Zone 1. Which is where visitors and tourists generally spend their time so they only see our prime specimens.

Come to Zone 3 and you will find us, queuing outside Morley’s Chicken shops in our Primark leggings and hoodies. In Zone 4 they queue in their pyjamas and pink dressing gowns.

NormasArse · 16/03/2025 10:31

Sidewinderer · 16/03/2025 09:49

I went out of London for a short break and there are a lot more chavvy people outside of London. Even the broke people of London didn’t look as bad as entire families looking how they looked.

The young girls dress too old. In London they tend to dress like they are going to play in the park and wear appropriate for the weather clothing, outside of London the small girls are wearing bodycon and adult clothes. It looks bizarre little breast buds popping out.

Outside of London people use too much fabric softener and it smells really strong. I think it is a class identifier to smell strongly of Lenor or Comfort.

The adult men wear football shirts for standard and have varying degrees of pot belly that they don’t try to hide.

The women have bad skin and bad dye job haircuts.

Where did you go??? 😂

NormasArse · 16/03/2025 10:27

Lambington · 16/03/2025 09:22

Yanbu. It's the way Londoners hold themselves. Comfortable in their own skin.
They are also generally kinder and more tolerant than those in other parts of the country which comes out in their faces - a smile makes everone look more attractive than a frown.
People in the "regions" always seem to be scowling / complaining / blaming someone else. Not attractive behaviours.

😂

Annascaul · 16/03/2025 10:25

SmugglersHaunt · 16/03/2025 09:16

I live in London, so thanks! (I’m sure it was probably me you saw)

No, it was surely me? 😁

pinkdelight · 16/03/2025 10:24

arcticpandas · 16/03/2025 09:52

I think people in all capitals tend to put more focus on their appearance. That goes for visitors going to the capitals as well. But no, I don't think Londoners are more beautiful than avarage, they are just styled. On the other hand if you go to Copenhagen (Denmark) or Stockholm (Sweden) you will see a lot of natural beautiful people.

For a certain sort of Nordic beauty sure, but again, there are many other types.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 16/03/2025 10:24

It might be because London would be the home for people in tv/media/modelling so it makes sense you get higher above average looking people?

Ginmonkeyagain · 16/03/2025 10:19

Actually the only time It has been mentioned to me I was in a small port town in the South of France. I was wearing a grass green kaftan style midi dress from &Other Stories and some gold metallic birkenstock sandals and the French guy we were talking to in a bar said "I dressed like a Londoner". I am not entirely sure it was a complement!

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 16/03/2025 10:18

I had to leave London as I was too, too beautiful. It's a curse.