To think the average Londoner is better looking?

No, I’ve lived here for years so I have a deeper knowledge of the local area, and I’m not from very far away. So I’m not letting a ‘few bad experiences’ cloud my judgement as a newcomer myself. People here a bit dull and depressed compared to London, they’d be surprised if you tried to talk to them and they’re not overly helpful in my experience. The times I’ve been to London I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how helpful people are.

I think in reverse a lot of people like to slag London, and Londoners, off because they have a kind of political grudge against what they see as the ‘bourgeois elite’. But it’s not really rooted in reality. London is a huge melting pot and it makes sense when you think about it that it attracts ambitious people who enjoy bustle and life, rather than some sleepy village.

London has the best jobs,wages etc and is at the forefront of fashion and media.Therefore the better grooming ,more expensive clothes and cosmetics and jobs is probably why

Equally, Britain has culture in spades. Music, fashion, theatre, Art, opera some of the best in the world. I disagree that British people are unattractive, this is why I said British Isles there has been a diversity of genes for hundreds of years. I am British (English) but on one side I have Danish heritage, another I have SW genes and also Irish. I won't say my DH's heritage as I will relate to my MIL point above and people will be affronted but he also has Irish on one side. I would imagine many people have an equally diverse genetic pool - maybe not so much Scandinavian genes but even those probably more than people realise from movements of people in the industrial revolution, I just don't see how compared to the rest of the world that means we are the most unattractive.

I agree Londoners do tend to be slimmer, surely that’s because they are always rushing about? No?
The number of times I’ve been pushed through for tickets at the underground by people, physically pushed on to the underground, and even been told ‘hurry up’ as I obviously wasn’t moving quick enough!
I don’t agree they are more friendly though, I always thought the more up north you go the more friendly they are! I’m northern, I love visiting London but not sure I could cope with that way of life!

I think you are letting bad experiences in one place cloud your judgement. Generally, I think Londoners are less friendly, welcoming, more in a hurry, less concerned with a sense of community, etc.
I agree that resentment has build up in some areas, Devon and Cornwall being good examples. This seems to be because of wealthy Londoners/ people from the SE buying up local properties as holiday homes/ investments, meaning that locals can no longer afford a home. It's along similar lines to people in more deprived areas becoming resentful towards people from the EU 'taking their jobs'. The behaviour is unpleasant but understandable to some degree.

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100% but it's also a style thing. You go to Liverpool and all the women look like blown up sex dolls! Go to Bristol and everyone's got under cuts and tattoos.... countryside all ruddy faces.

Where I am I don't think people are like this at all, would definitely not buy American food UPFs, organic clothes, sea swimming, plenty of Kimchi, tbh loads of pressure to be the complete opposite of your list. If you smoked a cigarette they'd be worried about your mental health.

I agree. I think it’s the culture, or rather lack of. Our food is mainly UPF and American, so very poor quality. Lots of vaping/smoking and heavy drinking. Quantity of clothes is valued over quality, lots of cheap fast fashion.

What like Elon Musk.

What the whole of the British Isles? Interesting, what specifically compared to other countries are the features that are so unattractive?

I agree with the last paragraph, I was visiting family and took along my MIL as it was a family holiday aswell with DH and kids, my MIL who has never been to Denmark pretty much declared this in the airport and being short how she felt intimidated by the obvious good looks and height. I won't say what she said as it will offend people from where her heritage is from but it included the word, "peasant".

Speaking as a lifelong Londoner - the tube varies. Rush hour, forget it. But outside of that, although people aren’t chatty they will certainly help if asked.

The big difference I’ve noticed is customer service in shops, especially supermarkets, where in London it’s dire and outside London cashiers are actually friendly and chatty.

I was amused by the reference to African churchgoers. Yes, the older men and women get very dressed up for church. But when we got DD baptised, we were the only white people at our local church, and most of the younger women were dressed as though they were about to go clubbing, but in white. Tiny little skintight white dresses. Their spike heels kept getting caught in the grilles in the floor of the nave. It was a very cheerful affair!

I live in rural Devon and an incomer was told to fuck off out of ‘our town’ because they (understandably) complained about dog shit on the beach.

Trust me - far less welcoming

I’ve long noticed this and have heard lots of jokes over the years about a Birmingham 9 being a London 7, etc etc.

I can also tell you that even a London 9 will be a 6 at best in Stockholm or Copenhagen, where a whole different Nordic scale of beauty applies .

Much less so in my experience. Generally, people are in a huge hurry in London and the pace of life can be slower outside.

It’ll be Harrogate or York

I would say that people in London tend to be better looking because of money and ethnic diversity. Brits in general, compared to other nationalities, tend to be less attractive imo.

I posted about the underground. People were more than happy to help, and a few stopped to chat. No less friendly than anywhere else. It’s a myth. Just because people are in a rush, doesn’t mean they’re less friendly.

This is nonsense; the opposite is true.
People in London, who may or may not be Londoners for generations, are far less friendly, helpful and cheerful looking compared to most regions.
I guess you've never been on the London Underground!

I’m from the south and live in the north west and people definitely look different between the two places. Not necessarily better looking, just different.

Amanda, is that you?

Never seen a posh part of the north, where is that exactly? Do you go for a walk because there is literally nothing else to do? Good thing you’ve got your friendly manners to fall back on. LOL.

I'm going to chirp up for the South West, here, even though I now live in the North East, mainly because it drives me nuts that all these types of conversations ignore a chunk of the country that isn't London or up North. It's as though Devon and Cornwall only exist when you all go on holiday.

I grew up in rural Devon. People dressed according to what was practical for their surroundings. Devon people, even in the towns, tended towards the 'natural, healthy, outdoorsy' look. Less make-up (except the goth teens, a phase I went through) A LOT less fake tan, but more naturally darker skinned people who tan quickly. (Not me, sadly, but my sister goes brown opening the curtains on a sunny day).

We smile about the North/South divide, because what people REALLY mean is the South East. There are areas of Devon and Cornwall with just as little investment as the North East town I live in now. But the tourists pitch up to the pretty little villages nobody local can afford to live in any more and think everybody is rich.

Op you are aware that most of Newcastle are currently in London?

They're more likely the attractive people you are seeing around; speaking from experience.