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Biggest scam you didn’t know was a scam

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Sillysausage2 · 16/03/2025 02:24

Lighthearted 😂
I saw an Instagram post earlier about the biggest thing you don’t realise is a scam and we all accept as normal.
We all have stories about how our parents raised 7 kids etc in a 3 bed if they were lucky, my grandparents had 9 in a 2 bed 😂
the aim for everyone now is buying or building massive houses, 3 en suites at least, we spend the weekends in Ikea, home bargain etc buying shit we don’t need and cleaning the houses with the 4 bathrooms!
I swear I’ve spent more Time cleaning the legs of chairs than is reasonable and I seem to wash the walls of my bathroom far more than people ever mentioned.
I don’t remember my mother ever cleaning the panelling on the walls.
is it all a scam? Are we busy fools?
sometimes I got to centre Parcs like places and think how simple my life would be if we al only had one suitcase each

OP posts:
quantumbutterfly · 16/03/2025 12:43

Simonjt · 16/03/2025 07:26

Being an adult, why did grown ups sell it as a really exciting thing?!

Delegation.

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 12:43

minnienono · 16/03/2025 12:01

Not a scam but we have been sold a “dream” and that reality just isn’t what we were sold. Bigger more expensive houses take more to clean, more to maintain, we need 2 incomes to service the mortgage and bills, less time so have to hire help which comes with more stress of course, kids in a zillion clubs keeping up with the Jones’ etc etc etc.

the simple life of yesteryear was hard work (my grandmother never owned even a washing machine, only a mangle) but I think people were less stressed despite money being a constant worry (think having to wait for the weekly wage packet to arrive home just to be able to afford to buy a loaf of bread to feed the dc, my mum, a simple bread and jam tea). My mum had one school shirt but my grandmother washed it daily drying on the line or in front of the coal stove then ironing it still damp with a coal heated iron to fully dry! Hard life but happy

I won't disagree with the fact that some of us have been sold a golden dream, but NEVER tell me people were less stressed, happier or any of the other rose tinted glasses crap.

DancingFerret · 16/03/2025 12:40

CrotchetyQuaver · 16/03/2025 12:18

I'm a relatively old bird at 60
I'd say
Weddings
PCPs for cars
Recreational shopping
Credit cards and their interest rates.
Big fancy lifestyle someone feels they need to have (cars, house, holidays, private school fees type stuff) and it's all financed on credit.

20 odd years ago I asked an estate agent friend of mine how people we both knew (not anyone specific) could afford to buy these lovely houses and have such a seemingly great lifestyle because I was concerned I wasn't being paid enough compared to others at work. He confirmed that in most cases it was all on credit, the ones who actually had the funds available to really afford to live in such a manner were pretty rare.

I just hope they kept their jobs, didn't have an extended period of unemployment and it all worked out in the end for them.

I suspect a few of few of them would have been posting on MN over the years asking for advice about how to reduce their debts.

Regretsmorethanafew · 16/03/2025 12:38

NetZeroZealot · 16/03/2025 12:37

Don't agree at all. New houses are built to much smaller proportions than, say, victorian homes - with nasty poky rooms and low ceilings. There may be more ensures but the overall floor space is tiny. So the greedy developers can fit more on the plot.

Nope. Some might be. My new build has high ceilings and large rooms (and it's more budget range than high end)

Regretsmorethanafew · 16/03/2025 12:37

MagdaLenor · 16/03/2025 10:05

En suite bathrooms. Promoted increasingly as "essential", no they're not. Unless you're disabled or have a serious illness, you can walk a few steps to a shared bathroom in your own home.
I saw property details of a new build on here, where every bedroom had an "en suite". No space for wardrobes though.

I can. But I don't want to. With 6 people in the house we need two showers for sure.
And we also have plenty of wardrobes

askmenow · 16/03/2025 12:37

BeeCucumber · 16/03/2025 09:30

University. Sending nearly every student to do pointless degrees, costing £K - to come out the other end of the education factory up to their eyes in debt with low job prospects.

And low self esteem given they're looking for the "perfect job" befitting their degrees.
Simple supply and demand, too many degree qualified, inexperience people flooding the tax constrained jobs market.

NetZeroZealot · 16/03/2025 12:37

Sillysausage2 · 16/03/2025 02:24

Lighthearted 😂
I saw an Instagram post earlier about the biggest thing you don’t realise is a scam and we all accept as normal.
We all have stories about how our parents raised 7 kids etc in a 3 bed if they were lucky, my grandparents had 9 in a 2 bed 😂
the aim for everyone now is buying or building massive houses, 3 en suites at least, we spend the weekends in Ikea, home bargain etc buying shit we don’t need and cleaning the houses with the 4 bathrooms!
I swear I’ve spent more Time cleaning the legs of chairs than is reasonable and I seem to wash the walls of my bathroom far more than people ever mentioned.
I don’t remember my mother ever cleaning the panelling on the walls.
is it all a scam? Are we busy fools?
sometimes I got to centre Parcs like places and think how simple my life would be if we al only had one suitcase each

Don't agree at all. New houses are built to much smaller proportions than, say, victorian homes - with nasty poky rooms and low ceilings. There may be more ensures but the overall floor space is tiny. So the greedy developers can fit more on the plot.

AgnesX · 16/03/2025 12:33

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 16/03/2025 11:38

Antigua and Barbuda, St. Kitts and Nevis, the United Arab Emirates, Vanuatu, Brunei, Bahrain, the Bahamas, Bermuda, the Cayman Islands, the Turks and Caicos Islands, the British Virgin Islands, Monaco, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Somalia, and Western Sahara.

17 countries out of the entire world. Several not democracies and funded by vast oil wealth. Others funded by being offshore investment havens.

Since the UK sold its oil assets and isn't, and is unlikely to ever be, an investment haven we'll never get to be tax free by that particular route.

Somalia....which is facing a food crisis and we're taking their refugees so not a particularly good example.

Mabiscuit · 16/03/2025 12:30

Price hikes mid contract.

NewNameTime2025 · 16/03/2025 12:28

Not a scam but coming up with dinner every single bloody night.

CrotchetyQuaver · 16/03/2025 12:18

I'm a relatively old bird at 60
I'd say
Weddings
PCPs for cars
Recreational shopping
Credit cards and their interest rates.
Big fancy lifestyle someone feels they need to have (cars, house, holidays, private school fees type stuff) and it's all financed on credit.

20 odd years ago I asked an estate agent friend of mine how people we both knew (not anyone specific) could afford to buy these lovely houses and have such a seemingly great lifestyle because I was concerned I wasn't being paid enough compared to others at work. He confirmed that in most cases it was all on credit, the ones who actually had the funds available to really afford to live in such a manner were pretty rare.

I just hope they kept their jobs, didn't have an extended period of unemployment and it all worked out in the end for them.

howchildrenreallylearn · 16/03/2025 12:17

Zippidydoodah · 16/03/2025 07:53

My teenage daughter thinks school is a scam! 😂

I’m an ex teacher and I agree with her.

CraicBird · 16/03/2025 12:15

MagdaLenor · 16/03/2025 12:04

"Women's Lib" was not a scam. Those of us campaigning for decades have seen a significant improvement in women's rights, socially, politically and economically, in spite of male pushback.
Much has been improved. That it hasn't, is not the fault of "Women's Lib", a term of derision I haven't heard since about 1978.
I'm going to have to leave this thread now because I am so angry about this. 😡

🤣🤣🤣

Jesus Christ, calm down.

I clearly stated this was tongue-in-cheek on a lighthearted thread.

For someone who has “campaigned for decades”, you’re very thin-skinned.

honeylulu · 16/03/2025 12:12

"Kids are expensive" - no, they are not. Childcare is expensive, kids can cost very little money.

Disagree. Surely the astronomical childcare costs are precisely a prime illustration of kids costing a LOT of money. If you give up work or go very part time to save the costs of nursery, after school club and holiday club then the lost salary is also a huge expense directly resulting from having kids.

I agree that kids don't need constant new stuff and days out and multiple weekly activities but there is still stuff like school uniform, school trips, swimming lessons (essential life skill), birthdays, Christmas, taking them on holiday. It all adds up even if you keep it minimal. I won't go on about driving lessons and uni for older kids as these aren't essential costs but honestly, when you have kids surely it's a duty to help them have a decent start in life/life skills/minimal debt if you can possibly afford it.

I only have two kids. I used to wish I'd had more but now living through the uni years I'm really glad I stopped at two, for the above reasons.

MiddlingMarch · 16/03/2025 12:09

Having just hunted under the dining table for a sock the dog stole, I definitely need to spend more time cleaning the chair legs 😐

Dyeing hair when it goes grey. I have never dyed my hair before but have noticed more and more greys. Am resisting the urge to start dying to disguise them because I know if I start then i will end up in the never ending cycle my mum is (still) in with her hair colouring. She used to have dark brown hair but went prematurely blonde around the age of 40 and is now in her mid 70s with suspiciously gingerish blonde hair. She begrudges the hours and hundreds of pounds she spends at the hairdresser each month yet still goes because she can't accept her now grey and white hair.

Cattery · 16/03/2025 12:08

Never cleaned a chair leg. Never bleached a skirting board. I send anything that needs to be ironed to the dry cleaners.

Maitri108 · 16/03/2025 12:07

Anti aging products - we spend billions on them and they rarely actually do anything.

Trovindia · 16/03/2025 12:07

Simonjt · 16/03/2025 07:26

Being an adult, why did grown ups sell it as a really exciting thing?!

I tell my kids that! It's not exciting! They have so much more freedom than I do!

LillyPJ · 16/03/2025 12:05

Discsareshit · 16/03/2025 10:30

What kind of events are you expected at?

I was thinking of weddings and funerals. I don't enjoy either and don't go if I can avoid them.

MagdaLenor · 16/03/2025 12:04

CraicBird · 16/03/2025 11:43

Women’s lib.

We were told in the 60s that women working like men do would bring about a fairer society where the sexes were equally valued, and split all activities.

It hasn’t, it’s resulted in a society where women typically still do the majority of caring work and carrying of the mental load, PLUS they’re now expected to work and financially contribute as much as men. Two income households have driven up the demand for cars, resulted in higher housing and mortgage costs, and has created the ludicrous childcare market which seems to serve precisely nobody (and I’m including childcare workers in that!).

(And I’m posting this predominantly tongue-in-cheek but it’s a niggling annoyance! I work and love being independent and my husband is one of those people who does more than his fair share, but I see so many women around me broken my the constant juggling they’re not expected to do in the name of equality).

"Women's Lib" was not a scam. Those of us campaigning for decades have seen a significant improvement in women's rights, socially, politically and economically, in spite of male pushback.
Much has been improved. That it hasn't, is not the fault of "Women's Lib", a term of derision I haven't heard since about 1978.
I'm going to have to leave this thread now because I am so angry about this. 😡

WingBingo · 16/03/2025 12:04

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 16/03/2025 11:49

Bottled water.

We've all been conned into thinking that we need to hydrate ourselves constantly and big business has tapped (see what I did there?) into the scam by convincing us that extortionately priced spring water or expensively filtered water is somehow healthier whilst we’re doing it.

There was an experiment several years ago on TV where they got identical adult twins, for 10 days, to either constantly drink water as we are encouraged to do, and the other one to only drink when she felt had the need to. At the end there was no difference whatsoever in skin clarity, texture or health benefits. There didn’t appear to be any need to additionally ‘flush’ out our kidneys as we are told, as it’s a perfectly normal process that our bodies just get on with regardless. The conclusion the experts came to was that unless you are exercising or sweating, there appears to be little benefit in consuming large amounts of additional water as your body just pees it away. Just drink when you’re thirsty, not set a target of how much you must consume.

Edited

Indeed. Bottled water is more expensive that petrol.

LillyPJ · 16/03/2025 12:02

Shampoo scam - you really don't need to do it twice (rinse and repeat). Then conditioner scam - now you've stripped your hair of all the oils it needs to stay healthy, pay a bit more money and dollop this stuff on. That way, your hair will need washing again even sooner, so get some more shampoo...

minnienono · 16/03/2025 12:01

Not a scam but we have been sold a “dream” and that reality just isn’t what we were sold. Bigger more expensive houses take more to clean, more to maintain, we need 2 incomes to service the mortgage and bills, less time so have to hire help which comes with more stress of course, kids in a zillion clubs keeping up with the Jones’ etc etc etc.

the simple life of yesteryear was hard work (my grandmother never owned even a washing machine, only a mangle) but I think people were less stressed despite money being a constant worry (think having to wait for the weekly wage packet to arrive home just to be able to afford to buy a loaf of bread to feed the dc, my mum, a simple bread and jam tea). My mum had one school shirt but my grandmother washed it daily drying on the line or in front of the coal stove then ironing it still damp with a coal heated iron to fully dry! Hard life but happy

LillyPJ · 16/03/2025 11:57

KrisAkabusi · 16/03/2025 08:09

I can honestly say I have never cleaned a chair leg in my life, or considered that any could get dirty enough to require it. Someone has definitely scammed you into unnecessary cleaning!

Yes! When I read that, I thought maybe I ought to clean my chair legs seeing as they've never been cleaned. Then I saw sense...

Lorrymum · 16/03/2025 11:57

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 16/03/2025 11:49

Bottled water.

We've all been conned into thinking that we need to hydrate ourselves constantly and big business has tapped (see what I did there?) into the scam by convincing us that extortionately priced spring water or expensively filtered water is somehow healthier whilst we’re doing it.

There was an experiment several years ago on TV where they got identical adult twins, for 10 days, to either constantly drink water as we are encouraged to do, and the other one to only drink when she felt had the need to. At the end there was no difference whatsoever in skin clarity, texture or health benefits. There didn’t appear to be any need to additionally ‘flush’ out our kidneys as we are told, as it’s a perfectly normal process that our bodies just get on with regardless. The conclusion the experts came to was that unless you are exercising or sweating, there appears to be little benefit in consuming large amounts of additional water as your body just pees it away. Just drink when you’re thirsty, not set a target of how much you must consume.

Edited

Totally agree. I also don't understand the need for those ridiculous metal bottle people cart around with them. They are sold everywhere, with every possible logo on the side.
Or people who jog with a metal coffee container in hand. Why?