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Biggest scam you didn’t know was a scam

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Sillysausage2 · 16/03/2025 02:24

Lighthearted 😂
I saw an Instagram post earlier about the biggest thing you don’t realise is a scam and we all accept as normal.
We all have stories about how our parents raised 7 kids etc in a 3 bed if they were lucky, my grandparents had 9 in a 2 bed 😂
the aim for everyone now is buying or building massive houses, 3 en suites at least, we spend the weekends in Ikea, home bargain etc buying shit we don’t need and cleaning the houses with the 4 bathrooms!
I swear I’ve spent more Time cleaning the legs of chairs than is reasonable and I seem to wash the walls of my bathroom far more than people ever mentioned.
I don’t remember my mother ever cleaning the panelling on the walls.
is it all a scam? Are we busy fools?
sometimes I got to centre Parcs like places and think how simple my life would be if we al only had one suitcase each

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Nonrienderien · 16/03/2025 14:52

Ilikeadrink14 · 16/03/2025 14:22

You are so right! I moved from a large 5 bed house to a 3 bed flat when my husband died, and I love it. Getting rid of my excess cr*p when I moved was cathartic. (That said, I would have all the crap again if I could have my husband back).
I keep it clean in that I dust every now and again, and vacuum (🤣) once in a blue moon. I do have a thing about clean and hygienic bathrooms though, so I am still fastidious with those.

So sorry to read this. I can't even begin to comprehend how hard that is but your story is inspiring for those who may go through this at some point. There is something very comforting about flat life as you get older & circumstances change. I love it too 😍

RosesAndHellebores · 16/03/2025 14:46

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 14:39

you must associate with ummmmm.......challenged people 😀

Indeed, usually ones in the NHS.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 16/03/2025 14:44

@SwanFlight Pharmaceutical scam - that’s a very good point.

Certain prescription drugs certainly have their place and have transformed our health and wellbeing incredibly but, and maybe it’s our own fault, everyone wants a quick fix pill rather than taking responsibility for their own health - and many doctors are happy to oblige as it’s of financial benefit to their practice to get us all on as much as possible. Statins and diabetes tablets are a prime example.

My MIL could have controlled her own diabetes by moderation, but she had a very sweet tooth and preferred to take Metformin instead. She was also told by the hospital physio that much of her pain would be released by gentle exercise, keeping herself mobile and losing some weight. Again, she preferred to just rely on prescribed pain killers. If she was reflective of some that needed advice and plain facts rather than doling out tablets, no wonder the NHS is the costly behemoth it’s become.

If you want to see what pharmaceutical scamming on a major and unscrupulous scale looks like, watch Painkiller on Netflix about the over prescription and deliberate pushing by US doctors of OxyContin. Truly frightening.

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 14:39

RosesAndHellebores · 16/03/2025 14:35

Golly, your experience is different to mine then.

you must associate with ummmmm.......challenged people 😀

RosesAndHellebores · 16/03/2025 14:35

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 14:29

I don't think the NHS is ever described or expected to be free? Anyone who thinks it is is hard of thinking, not scammed.

Golly, your experience is different to mine then.

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 14:34

Nonrienderien · 16/03/2025 14:08

I meant to add to this post regarding the scam topic. I should have said Imo it's a scam when people believe the bigger & more prestigious the house the happier you will be. This in turn makes people strive for something that in the bigger picture doesn't make people happier therefore to my mind that's a scam 😁

but that's not a scam, that's a silly belief.

Regretsmorethanafew · 16/03/2025 14:31

Ryeman · 16/03/2025 14:06

Small-time scam: fabric softener. Not needed, doesn’t do anything.

Big-time scam: paying to exercise. Yonks ago before we had such sedentary lives we did physical jobs to earn a crust. Now many of us sit at a desk all day and pay someone to facilitate us keeping fit and strong.

Edited

That's not a scam. Do you want to be down a mine or living in a big house as a scullery maid?

Regretsmorethanafew · 16/03/2025 14:30

Grammarnut · 16/03/2025 14:23

Yes, it's a scam. We have more machinery to do work in the house so our standards are higher (well, mine aren't, don't mind a bit of dust and nor did late DH). It's also the double shift, the unpaid, invisible work women do that keeps the capitalist machine working. We should stop doing it.

Stop what, exactly?

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 14:29

RosesAndHellebores · 16/03/2025 13:43

That the NHS is free. It’s the biggest scam going. It is free at the point of delivery and we all pay for it. When something is “free@ it makes complaints more difficult than they should be. For decades now almost an entire population has put up with sub-optimal standards due to misplaced gratitude. Why should the public be grateful for a service for which they have paid?

the same applies to universal free lunches for children in reception and stage one. It was dreadful when my dc were little and we paid directly. I imagine it’s still dreadful but it’s free so complaints must be difficult.

I don't think the NHS is ever described or expected to be free? Anyone who thinks it is is hard of thinking, not scammed.

Grammarnut · 16/03/2025 14:23

Yes, it's a scam. We have more machinery to do work in the house so our standards are higher (well, mine aren't, don't mind a bit of dust and nor did late DH). It's also the double shift, the unpaid, invisible work women do that keeps the capitalist machine working. We should stop doing it.

Catza · 16/03/2025 14:23

honeylulu · 16/03/2025 12:12

"Kids are expensive" - no, they are not. Childcare is expensive, kids can cost very little money.

Disagree. Surely the astronomical childcare costs are precisely a prime illustration of kids costing a LOT of money. If you give up work or go very part time to save the costs of nursery, after school club and holiday club then the lost salary is also a huge expense directly resulting from having kids.

I agree that kids don't need constant new stuff and days out and multiple weekly activities but there is still stuff like school uniform, school trips, swimming lessons (essential life skill), birthdays, Christmas, taking them on holiday. It all adds up even if you keep it minimal. I won't go on about driving lessons and uni for older kids as these aren't essential costs but honestly, when you have kids surely it's a duty to help them have a decent start in life/life skills/minimal debt if you can possibly afford it.

I only have two kids. I used to wish I'd had more but now living through the uni years I'm really glad I stopped at two, for the above reasons.

None of the things you listed are essential. Swimming lessons... What's wrong with you teaching your kids how to swim? I was taught by my grandfather. No pool lessons needed. I mean, I don't believe for a second it's an essential life skill but whatever.
School uniforms are another scam, as far as I am concerned. Not clear at all why we need them. I didn't have it in my school.
Christmases wouldn't cost any more for a child specifically than it would for an adult. Unless you feel compelled to provide a mountain of gifts instead of one.
As for uni, I encourage my teen to go to work after A levels and take time to think about what she wants to study. After 25, she is no longer tied to our income and can't take on a full maintenance loan. Plus, she would get more out of her education as a mature student. She also doesn't need to drive just yet. We live somewhere with a relatively functional public transport system and she can use my bicycle to get places. Almost nobody in my family has a license and they manage surprisingly well. I didn't have one till I turned 38. I guess it's another "essential life skill" which is, surprisingly, not essential. Or she can always pass her CBT and get a scooter if a bike isn't good enough. Something I did when I was at uni (as a mature student, aha).

Ilikeadrink14 · 16/03/2025 14:22

You are so right! I moved from a large 5 bed house to a 3 bed flat when my husband died, and I love it. Getting rid of my excess cr*p when I moved was cathartic. (That said, I would have all the crap again if I could have my husband back).
I keep it clean in that I dust every now and again, and vacuum (🤣) once in a blue moon. I do have a thing about clean and hygienic bathrooms though, so I am still fastidious with those.

Enchomage · 16/03/2025 14:17

Going to hairdressers to blow dry hair.What an expensive faff to look naff.

Catza · 16/03/2025 14:10

SwanFlight · 16/03/2025 11:41

There's the energy scam, while we have a larger population. Just think about the amount of KW that we use now compared to say the 80s/90s. We had 100w bulbs in each room. Now we have low energy devices and get scammed with standing charges.

Water scam, citizens shouldn't have to pay for water as long as we aren't wasteful or polluters.

Packaging scam, we don't want all these plastics, and all plastics can be recycled, if the infrastructure exists, and we have better guidelines and systems in place. But why let companies sell this crap in the first place.

Paint. We are daubing pollutants onto our walls in our home when a bit of lime wash would do and be healthier. Who cleans this pollution up?

Farming and agriculture scam, they pollute the waterways, and the plebs are left to clean it up.

Car scam, most people could use a small electrified vehicles for the majority of journeys, but there is no revenue to be made that way.

Toilet scam, the greenest toilet is probably shitting in a bucket of sawdust and throwing it on a compost pile. But even a task as simple as that has been made overly complicated with mandatory sewerage system rental.

Cleaning product scam, there's something like a brand in America for soda crystals, where it's repackaged into about 10 different products, one for the kitchen, one for the bathroom etc. When all you need is soda crystals. And nothing much else. There's a whole load of hazardous materials filling supermarket isles for no good reason.

Pharmaceutical scam, cheaper to load people up with blood thinners than have them live a healthier lifestyle.

Meat scam, it takes a silly amount of energy to feed and sustain an animal that you then eat. Why grow fields and fields of food for animals when we could just eat those foods or grow alternatives instead? And why subsidise meat and dairy instead of vegetables? Why can I buy a pack of sausages for the price of a pepper and an avocado?

I do question myself every time I spray multi-purpose cleaner. My granny still uses a wet cloth. What happened in the last 20 years that made us think a bit of water wasn't good enough for dusting?

CinnamonJellyBeans · 16/03/2025 14:10

minnienono · 16/03/2025 12:01

Not a scam but we have been sold a “dream” and that reality just isn’t what we were sold. Bigger more expensive houses take more to clean, more to maintain, we need 2 incomes to service the mortgage and bills, less time so have to hire help which comes with more stress of course, kids in a zillion clubs keeping up with the Jones’ etc etc etc.

the simple life of yesteryear was hard work (my grandmother never owned even a washing machine, only a mangle) but I think people were less stressed despite money being a constant worry (think having to wait for the weekly wage packet to arrive home just to be able to afford to buy a loaf of bread to feed the dc, my mum, a simple bread and jam tea). My mum had one school shirt but my grandmother washed it daily drying on the line or in front of the coal stove then ironing it still damp with a coal heated iron to fully dry! Hard life but happy

Don't diminish the struggles of your forbears by minimising poverty and the constant stress, mental health and physical hardship that went with food insecurity, cold homes, lack of modern medicine and technology and no free healthcare.

You were happy because your care-givers didn't burden you with their worries, but it's not all "mmmm bread and dripping: delicious!" and "knees up muvver Brown".

Nonrienderien · 16/03/2025 14:08

Nonrienderien · 16/03/2025 13:47

When the children left home we downsized from a huge house with multiple bathrooms & land looked after by a gardener,to a top floor flat with a balcony overlooking the sea. We had some wonderful family times in our home but I wouldn't go back now if I was offered it for free. We love our cosy flat with beautiful grounds in a quiet neighbourhood. Large imposing houses are impressive but the work involved & the costs involved, no thanks. Lived it,loved it (at the time) wouldn't go back 😁

I meant to add to this post regarding the scam topic. I should have said Imo it's a scam when people believe the bigger & more prestigious the house the happier you will be. This in turn makes people strive for something that in the bigger picture doesn't make people happier therefore to my mind that's a scam 😁

Ryeman · 16/03/2025 14:06

Small-time scam: fabric softener. Not needed, doesn’t do anything.

Big-time scam: paying to exercise. Yonks ago before we had such sedentary lives we did physical jobs to earn a crust. Now many of us sit at a desk all day and pay someone to facilitate us keeping fit and strong.

Gingefringe · 16/03/2025 14:04

Botox and face/lip fillers - especially for young women. No one has ever looked better with them and you can spot the plastic faces a mile off - they just look ridiculous - especially if they have the teeth and lashes to match as well.

Pointless SUV cars .

Catza · 16/03/2025 14:03

tanstaafl · 16/03/2025 09:18

@Catza
Car payment plans are definitely a scam - you pay obscene amounts of money for the new car for three years and then you have to give it back

If there’s a scam in PCP, it’s surely that it’s designed to make you take out a new 3 or 4 year deal with a new car, again and again?

It's the same scam, isn't it? If you could keep your car at the end of the PCP, you probably would be less tempted to take a new one. We had to come up with 23k somehow. Which we paid, immediately sold the car at a profit and bought an old banger while swearing to never enter any form of car loan agreement again.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 16/03/2025 13:58

Hwi · 16/03/2025 13:27

The scam of adult education - Open University and other unis preying on the vulnerable older people by advertising all over bus shelters, promising 'a new career in your 50s' if you do a degree. I think this should be banned and actually, not only banned, but looked into for mis-advertising, mis-selling, fraud, etc. Vulnerable people in difficulties are lead to believe that the world of employment will embrace them at 50 if they did a degree. These universities are no better than scammers like Tony Robbins selling courses or lectures of 'How to become a millionaire' by running a business from your bedroom.

I had a uni mate, a fellow student, I was a 20, doing masters, she was 39, doing a PhD (European politics or something similar at the LSE) because some idiot lecturer told her 'she will get a great job in Brussels with that, plus a great life style'. She emerged with her PhD in this idiotic subject at 43, with no work experience apart from baby sitting and dog walking (she had a modest British Council grant to indulge in this folly). Obviously nobody wanted to have anything to do with her, there were plenty of 25-year olds with the same PhDs, plus languages (she had none) and she is now working for a charity, saying daily that it was all a lie, that she wasted her best years on a hollow idea, did not have a relationship/children and she regrets it all massively. Her mum, a down-to-earth seamstress was telling her it was a scam, it was idiotic to embark on a mature student's journey, that she was wasting her life opportunities, but she did not believe her at the time. Now she says she wished she did.

I don't think that's a scam. I think she made a bad choice. I have a PhD and do not regret it. I wanted to dig deeper into the subject I was interested in. I also had a career before I undertook the PhD and completing it has enhanced my work and prospects.

I thought everyone knew that academic qualifications don't make you valuable to the work force without work experience? I was told this when I did my first degree many moons ago.

TheWombatleague · 16/03/2025 13:58

Organised religion has to be up there.

Washingupdone · 16/03/2025 13:57

And to can transfer the low mortgage onto the next property you buy

Washingupdone · 16/03/2025 13:55

UK mortgages and how you can’t sign up for a long low one.

In France, you chose the bank which will lend you the money on a long or short mortgage, say 25/30 year on the lowest rate. You sign on at that rate for all the period you want. If the bank rate goes down you can negotiate for a lower one either at the original bank or another but the banks cannot put the rate up.
Why can’t English banks do the same?
Note, French banks will not lend on English properties so don’t try queuing.

Another UK scam is leasehold, it doesn’t exist in other countries except England and Wales, or otherwise in very special circumstances.

It is like those in power, the rich, do not want to let go of Feudalism.

godmum56 · 16/03/2025 13:53

twiddlingthumbs69 · 16/03/2025 13:44

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ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 16/03/2025 13:53

I think a lot of big name coffee shops are scammers. I had two coffees yesterday and when I paid for the second one realised that I had spent £10 on coffee in the space of a couple of hours. From coffee shops that have been brought to task for not paying tax.