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Sausage dog kills baby

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crumby23 · 15/03/2025 17:00

Sorry if there’s already a thread on this. Absolutely tragic story today about a sausage dog getting into a small baby’s crib and killing it. The parents knew it was aggressive and had taken precautions to keep the dog separate but on this occasion had forgotten.
Unfortunately the story is bringing out all the XL bully morons who are somehow using this to justify the fact that ‘fighting dogs’ are no greater risk than small dogs. Why are people so stupid?

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cunoyerjudowel · 15/03/2025 21:19

As others have said- the difference is that an adult can control and physically prevent a lethal attack from a smaller dog- XL Bullies / pitbulls and other large dogs are not easy to restrain and can overpower a human

HumanBurrito · 15/03/2025 21:16

There was a newborn killed by a jack russell some years ago.

Ilovelurchers · 15/03/2025 21:15

I love dogs but this story doesn't surprise me - i am actually surprised there aren't more incidents of dogs hurting newborns, given how reckless people can be allowing their pets around their babies/toddlers.

When I had my daughter, it was the one period of my life I fervently wished we did not have our dog. The need to keep them separated at all times when not under direct supervision was exhausting, and made having a baby/toddler so much harder. But it was necessary. Even the kindest dog can turn at any moment - it can be injured, it can have an undiagnosed brain tumour..... And I have been told, and always believed, that newborns sometimes cry at a pitch dogs find unbearable to listen to, which can also trigger even loving dogs to uncharacteristic responses.....

And frankly, why would you risk it?

Yet you see these posts on Facebook with babies lounging all over someone's Belgian Mastiff or swinging off its tail (I exaggerated, but only slightly). I even know people who have deliberately got a puppy upon realising ther are pregnant, so that the two can "grow up together"..... Incomprehensible to me.

I think ideally, dogs and small children shouldn't be mixed at all - but obviously sometimes people get their dog or dogs (like I did) before they realise they may decide to start a family. In that case, extreme care needs to be taken to avoid tragedies like the one linked to above.

It isn't really about breeds in this case. At the end of the day, dogs are carnivorous predators, and they don't necessarily understand that a baby is human; not do they have a concept of murder and its ethical connotations. When q dog kills a baby, it's tragic, but there is a human to blame somewhere along the line..,..

BlueBatsAndOranges · 15/03/2025 21:10

Never2many · 15/03/2025 20:17

Because dogs don’t silently strangle babies. If a dog attacks a baby it does so aggressively. But this story leads us to believe that the dog climbed into the crib with the newborn, silently strangled it, and the parents never heard a thing, didn’t wake up all night and only discovered the baby dead at 7 the next morning.

And the parents allege that they took the dog to be put to sleep due to its aggression, and because they were refused they took it home, and left it to wander unsupervised around the house whereas before they’d always tied it up at night due to its aggression.

So they took a dog which was so aggressive that they were going to have it put to sleep, and they usually tied up at night home and then left it to Rome free - even though they knew, and were apparently worried about its aggression, and then paid no attention to their newborn all night until they discovered that the dog had silently strangled it?

Exactly that.
Dogs are not cold blooded killers who silently climb on a baby and ‘strangle’ it. They react and attack, they don’t stealthily slink into a baby’s cot like a bloody ninja and ‘silently’ kill it. The Dad was the last one to let the dog out then ‘forgot’ to tie the dog up again. Very convenient.

Of course all dogs are capable of hurting/killing a child but in this instance I would say it’s highly unlikely.

carly2803 · 15/03/2025 20:57

I love dogs and have my own dogs. They are treated like family but they are still dogs!

They do not get to sleep in my bed, or the sofa or come everywhere with us. They are never ever left alone with my children as soft as they are they can still bite/kill no matter what the breed

this story is not adding up though!

I await the XL bully fans having "their point proved that any dog can kill and fido the xl would never do this"

Frequency · 15/03/2025 20:56

TeaIsNice · 15/03/2025 20:53

well my very well behaved, sociable, faithful Shitzu that sleeps on my feet went for a chicken last week. Thankfully he let go - chicken is just fine. Dogs are animals - instinct is instinct. Never say never as each and every dog will at some stage do something that will remind you of their animal instinct

True but silent strangulation is not an instinct in any dog I have ever met/trained/studied/read about.

Grabbing by the neck, shaking violently while snarling and growling is instinctual but allegedly this dog silently strangled the child after making a physically impossible jump into the cot.

TeaIsNice · 15/03/2025 20:53

well my very well behaved, sociable, faithful Shitzu that sleeps on my feet went for a chicken last week. Thankfully he let go - chicken is just fine. Dogs are animals - instinct is instinct. Never say never as each and every dog will at some stage do something that will remind you of their animal instinct

Katbum · 15/03/2025 20:34

Zippidydoodah · 15/03/2025 17:13

I just googled it and couldn’t get past the first couple of lines of the article.

just……..no.

i know mumsnet loves dogs but why anyone would have their newborn baby anywhere near a dog just beggars belief.

i just went to a pub for lunch and they had dog dinners (dog fish and chips, anyone?) and treats etc. I think the problem is that people are treating their dogs like they’re a human child when they’re not, they’re a dog.

I see a picture the other day of an old classmate of mine in bed with his days old son and the butt of his little dog was right next to the baby’s face. I cannot believe people can be so careless about their newborn children. Dog poo is so toxic and tiny babies are so vulnerable to infection. I think it’s a result of this guy and his wife treating their dogs as babies ahead of the actual baby coming along and still not realising in fact, they are animals. I actually have a dog and used to sleep in bed with her until my
child was born so I’m not anti dog, but people are weird about their pets.

Never2many · 15/03/2025 20:17

Mightymoog · 15/03/2025 20:11

why is there no way the dog killed the baby?
I've not read the story but they have been known to before ( daschunds)

Because dogs don’t silently strangle babies. If a dog attacks a baby it does so aggressively. But this story leads us to believe that the dog climbed into the crib with the newborn, silently strangled it, and the parents never heard a thing, didn’t wake up all night and only discovered the baby dead at 7 the next morning.

And the parents allege that they took the dog to be put to sleep due to its aggression, and because they were refused they took it home, and left it to wander unsupervised around the house whereas before they’d always tied it up at night due to its aggression.

So they took a dog which was so aggressive that they were going to have it put to sleep, and they usually tied up at night home and then left it to Rome free - even though they knew, and were apparently worried about its aggression, and then paid no attention to their newborn all night until they discovered that the dog had silently strangled it?

Sillysaussicon · 15/03/2025 20:17

ohtowinthelottery · 15/03/2025 17:52

@crumblingschools A rule that is broken by most of the dog owning population, seemingly.

Not mine either. Mine is restrained in an appropriate way, with an RAC approved seatbelt which takes seconds to attach, so unless someone was intently watching my every move it would be impossible for them to know if I was restraining my dog or not. Plus with the angle of my boot and boot door you would be unlikely to see anything at all.

This just seems an odd thing to say, just because how could you possibly know?

Frequency · 15/03/2025 20:16

Mightymoog · 15/03/2025 20:11

why is there no way the dog killed the baby?
I've not read the story but they have been known to before ( daschunds)

The other daschunds that killed dragged babies off of playmats or knocked over Moses baskets. This one allegedly jumped into the crib. That is simply not possible. A dachshund cannot jump.

Mightymoog · 15/03/2025 20:11

Never2many · 15/03/2025 20:06

Nobody is dismissing the idea that dogs can kill.

But given the alleged circumstances, there’s no way this child was killed by the dog.

But it makes a good post for the dog haters to latch on to.

If this had happened in the UK it’s inevitable that arrests and charges of murder would have followed. but as it was elsewhere it’s unlikely that the rest of the story will be published.

why is there no way the dog killed the baby?
I've not read the story but they have been known to before ( daschunds)

Hotflushesandchilblains · 15/03/2025 20:08

If its a true story, it is not the first time a dacshund has killed a baby. I have met some nice ones, but a lot have been really snappy and aggressive - they are bred to go down holes after animals - so it is not surprising that they can be really unsafe to be around. too many people get them because they think they look cute.

Never2many · 15/03/2025 20:06

FirFoxSake · 15/03/2025 19:27

Why are people do keen to dismiss the idea that dogs kill?

Nobody is dismissing the idea that dogs can kill.

But given the alleged circumstances, there’s no way this child was killed by the dog.

But it makes a good post for the dog haters to latch on to.

If this had happened in the UK it’s inevitable that arrests and charges of murder would have followed. but as it was elsewhere it’s unlikely that the rest of the story will be published.

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 19:54

Well I can spell sausage....

Its just a nickname, like staffie, we use that when talking about a death caused by one of those

steff13 · 15/03/2025 19:52

There's something weird about referring to it as a sausage dog in the same sentence as saying it's killed a baby. It was a dachshund right?

Mightymoog · 15/03/2025 19:51

Yerblues · 15/03/2025 19:35

What planet are you on?

Ridiculous, isn't it.
You know, statistically humans are a much bigger threat to babies than lions so maybe we should keep those as pets.....

Mightymoog · 15/03/2025 19:49

SmudgeButt · 15/03/2025 18:06

dreadful case obviously but dogs are much less a threat to babies (children, adults) than another human.

Christ I'm sick of people saying this.

Just have a little think about what you're actually saying.

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 19:48

FirFoxSake · 15/03/2025 19:27

Why are people do keen to dismiss the idea that dogs kill?

They do and as you have found even sausage dogs do too, but the storty as written (and of course it may have been badly translated) doesnt make sense.

MaisieMacabe · 15/03/2025 19:48

FOJN · 15/03/2025 19:47

I think the one OP is posting about is in Russia

Thanks! I'm getting confused with all the stories on the thread. The one in Ireland is awful (not that the others aren't)

FOJN · 15/03/2025 19:47

MaisieMacabe · 15/03/2025 19:45

The case in Ireland or America?
Or Russia?

Edited

I think the one OP is posting about is in Russia

MaisieMacabe · 15/03/2025 19:47

greengreyblue · 15/03/2025 19:46

All dogs need to be supervised around babies and children.

This ⬆️

greengreyblue · 15/03/2025 19:46

All dogs need to be supervised around babies and children.

MaisieMacabe · 15/03/2025 19:45

FOJN · 15/03/2025 19:43

No one has said that. It's the details of this particular case that do not add up.

The case in Ireland or America?
Or Russia?

FOJN · 15/03/2025 19:43

FirFoxSake · 15/03/2025 19:27

Why are people do keen to dismiss the idea that dogs kill?

No one has said that. It's the details of this particular case that do not add up.