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why only women mostly do these things? what do men do?

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CoursesForHorsesandMares · 15/03/2025 11:41

Over the past years say like a decade maybe longer I have done lots of different activities including short courses. Initially (like many women who made a similar mistake!) I started out with wine tasting when I was in a dating mind set and I did it to try to meet some men and broaden my social circle. Of course as anyone who has done this will tell you, wine tasting is 99% women trying to meet men who arent there!

Since then I've done lots of different courses for things I was interested in learning - not to meet guys -but a comment on a different thread (about walking groups) made me think that actually all of these courses are just women -maybe you get one or two men but in every case it is hugely dispropotionate weighting. This covers a really wide range of subjects from lots of varied providers - art based courses, computer based courses, acting courses, language course, comedy courses, wine tasting I've mentioned, street skating, skiiing, climbing. Even the ones that are less stereotypically 'female' - same thing again - almost all women.

Doesn't matter what the subject is - it's always women and not just single women with very few men. If you have a group of say 10 or 15, usually one man maybe two. Why is this? Is it women who are just interested in learning? Or is there something else? It's really strange because the law of averages should dictate a greater male attendance. I'm not saying 50:50 but maybe even 60:40 is so far away.

Why is it so disproportionate? What are men never doing these kinds of things?

OP posts:
Itsjustgonenoonhalfpastmonsoon · 15/03/2025 21:44

Skeldale · 15/03/2025 11:42

I think it’s probably because a lot of men genuinely don’t think they need to learn anything!

I suspect it’s more a need to know sort of thing. Men will learn new things as and when they need to rather than for fun.

pitterypattery00 · 15/03/2025 21:31

My experience is more varied.

Language evening classes (have done several in 2 different cities) - all have been roughly equal men/women.

Salsa - I'd say also around 50/50.

Weekend walking group - not sure of ratio but plenty of men and women.

Circuits gym class - mostly men

Pilates evening class - one man, 11 women

Gwenhwyfar · 15/03/2025 21:27

Manasprey · 15/03/2025 13:19

When I was a barmaid, in the very distant past, I would often call in for a pint by myself. But I guess it was different, because I always knew someone in there.
I still think women by themselves in pubs are seen as waiting for someone, rather than wanting to sit and have a pint. It's like one of the last places where we're still outsiders.

I will go to a pub on my own, although I have been to one or two where it just did not work. However, I always have my phone or a book and will never talk to strange men in case it's misunderstood so I'm totally missing out on the socialising opportunities.

Gwenhwyfar · 15/03/2025 21:23

BatchCookBabe · 15/03/2025 20:57

Not in my village. Or my local market town. Church choir is half men and half women, market town choir is 60% women, and 40% men.

Well if you have a four voice choir, you will need it to be about 50-50 so that might be managed by those in charge, rather than reflecting the interest.

Gwenhwyfar · 15/03/2025 21:21

MsCactus · 15/03/2025 12:57

I think youre wrong. My brother has done tons of these random course - climbing, skiing, crew/boat training (incidentally he said that one was entirely made up of divorced men) - and I'm a woman who has done zero.

I've never thought of it as a female trait to do lots of random courses

And you and your brother are the only people in the world?

uhohjojo · 15/03/2025 21:20

I used to be into poker. Almost entirely men but also very social, there is plenty of time to chat while playing. It's a highly competitive game and maybe that puts off a lot of women? Or maybe it's the myth that it's all smoky clubs and gangsters. When I was single poker clubs made dating apps unnecessary. 😂

I'm also a member of a writing critique group which is about 60-70% male. Yet most styles of writing group are 90% female. I think it might be something to do with women being more nervous about giving opinions about other's work, or taking feedback on their own? (It is a bit scary.) Most writing groups are more low stakes and you don't need to share work, or on the rare occasions you read something out people tell you it's wonderful!

EdithBond · 15/03/2025 21:16

MayaPinion · 15/03/2025 14:28

It’s a shame Maplin has gone. That’s used to be jammed full of men, like a city centre man warehouse. All of them looking at wire and resistors.

That’s cracked me up 😂

321user123 · 15/03/2025 21:04

Any chance that is because they are… courses? 🤔

I’m the type to not read instructions - maybe skim read if essential and just figure it out and when you said courses, it sounded off putting. - I would do a language course though, that’s different 😅.

I find the theory put forth by two posters interesting re men just going for it as being evolutionary.

BatchCookBabe · 15/03/2025 20:57

PassingStranger · 15/03/2025 20:55

Choirs are mainly women.

Not in my village. Or my local market town. Church choir is half men and half women, market town choir is 60% women, and 40% men.

PassingStranger · 15/03/2025 20:55

Choirs are mainly women.

Beekeepingmum · 15/03/2025 20:27

The men are all cycling.

gannett · 15/03/2025 14:54

I'm not sure I buy that it's an innate gender difference. The last time I joined a "random" class that wasn't one of my interests already, it was a street dance class - definitely about 50/50 in the beginners' group. When I play tennis, there are always group social lessons taking place on the courts next to me that seem fairly evenly balanced.

I do wonder whether it's connected to who maintains their hobbies through their 30s and 40s. MN seems full of women who dropped their hobbies when they had kids, or never had any in the first place. They're the perfect demographic for taking up something new in their 50s and beyond. Meanwhile most men know what they like to do by their 30s and by and large stick at it, unless there's a specific self-improvement angle like getting fit, getting better at cooking etc.

MayaPinion · 15/03/2025 14:28

It’s a shame Maplin has gone. That’s used to be jammed full of men, like a city centre man warehouse. All of them looking at wire and resistors.

JeanGenieJean · 15/03/2025 14:26

That's not my experience. I have done languages, sewing, knitting, art and jewellery making short courses at different institutions. The only courses with majority women were knitting and sewing, but there were men on both.
I wasn't doing any of the courses to meet a man as I'm happily married, but the bonus is I've made some lovely friends who I keep in touch with.

3678194b · 15/03/2025 14:12

Maybe motorbikes, bike & accessory shops are full of men at weekend and bikers congregate outside a country pub near me every weekends spring and summer. Probably 90% men plus! But I'd be out of my depth with motorbikes 😂

CanadianJohn · 15/03/2025 14:07

Your local chess club will be 99.9% men, but chess isn't the most social activity, and clubs are for playing, not teaching.

dottydodah · 15/03/2025 14:04

I think men will often decide to do something because they want to for a particular reason ( say cycling to get fit or whatever) whereas women may prefer the social side .They may work long hours in their jobs ,more women still work PT hours than men I expect

EwwSprouts · 15/03/2025 14:02

I joined a beginners pickleball course in January. The split is about 55% female 45% male. DH's response was 'you joined a class where you know no-one?'. Well yes, that's how exercise classes often go.

3678194b · 15/03/2025 14:01

Totally agree. I'm at a stage where I'd like to meet someone new, not in bars etc as I don't have childcare, and have found the same.

Join a walking club, someone advised! So I did, and there are some men there, but they are all 60's, 70's plus, as are most of the women there. Nothing wrong with that, I have older friends, but no good for broadening horizons to potentially date.

UnemployedNotRetired · 15/03/2025 13:56

Zone2NorthLondon · 15/03/2025 13:14

only took 7 posts for you to wilfully misinterpret an innocuous post and garnish your ignorance with a 😆
Classic MN

Maybe the men's wives don't let them go to events with so many women ... [/sarcasm ends].

SauronsArsehole · 15/03/2025 13:45

Wrong type of courses! I’m doing engineering based courses and skills and it’s easily 10:1 men - women. It doesn’t matter if it’s an accredited course or leisure course though.

I’m surrounded by blokes but this isn’t the place to meet for dates. I’m here to learn how to make cool stuff

queenMab99 · 15/03/2025 13:44

In my 40s I was in 2 walking groups, one was connected to a singles group, and the other was a straight forward fell walking group. They were both pretty evenly divided between sexes, although there were more men in the fell walking group. I enjoyed the straight forward fell walking group much more, the singles group had definite meat market vibes which made me uncomfortable.

BatchCookBabe · 15/03/2025 13:35

SwedishEdith · 15/03/2025 13:30

I joined a book group which started with about 20 people of which one was a man. The worst thing was that whenever he spoke up (a lot) the other women were all ears at his pearls of predictable and dull wisdom. So depressing.

Yep. Far be it from me to join in with any man bashing,😆 But in the 'social groups' I have been in, (that have been largely female,) the one or two men in the groups have been proper fucking know-it-alls. Mansplaining, acting like women are beneath them, and loving the sound of their own tedious voice.

Seriously, no wonder so many women want to be at female only pursuits. There is a female only session at my DD's gym, and a couple of men she knows, are proper miffed that there isn't a 'male only' session. There's a reason why there are female only things. MEN. (Some men!)

SwedishEdith · 15/03/2025 13:34

Thedownsideisup · 15/03/2025 13:18

My friend does kayaking and welding and says it's mostly men in these groups. I did woodworking and found the same.

I agree with those who say men just tend not to be joiners. Although my DH has recently joined something for once - it's a brass band and again, mostly men.

That's a good example of how men socialise - dad bands. They are learning but it's group self-led. It's as though they don't like someone else knowing more than them.

Echobelly · 15/03/2025 13:34

I think women are maybe more up for trying something new and less worried about people judging it or something? Like, for many men there may be a strong sense that sport is the only acceptable hobby and everything else is a bit ... girly and therefore unacceptable or weird for them?

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