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Is it unreasonable to bribe my son to watch the show ' adolescence '

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atmywitsend1989 · 14/03/2025 23:04

Posted here recently but thought I would get input on a different issue.. My son is 16. He has made misogynistic comments before. I've given him tough love (yes.. I've also tried gentle parenting) and have consistently shut down his comments before. He has a teenaged sister and I really don't want her to feel disrespected.

He's been in therapy- the attitude hasn't changed. I binge-watched 'adolescence' yesterday and I'm hooked, it really opened my eyes. I want to rewatch it with him.. Tate and these influencers are ruining young men. They should show this to young boys in schools, but son hasn't been in education for a while.

Am I being unreasonable if I insist that he should watch it ? He doesn't live at home so I was thinking that I could offer him a day back if he watches this + speaks to his therapist again this week.

My only concern is that he's been diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder and claims to have obsessive thoughts. I don't want him to believe that he'll end up doing what the boy in the TV show has done but his comments and attitude really are unacceptable

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Bleeky · 15/03/2025 08:11

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 01:28

He's a young adult but legally a child... he's 16. I'm not sure if you've watched the series

Netflix's Adolescence isn't based on a single real-life case, the series was inspired by the growing knife-crime epidemic in the U.K.

A story written by …. Writers who write movies and tv series

A 13-year-old school boy named Jamie Miller gets arrested for the murder of a classmate, with each episode shot in one take.

Fiction.

Hhoudini · 15/03/2025 08:10

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 08:04

Yes I agree that it's based on poor mental health.. he has no disabilities and no excuses as he could be a threat at this point. I've made a list on what it would take to have him back home longterm but it really would need him to be willing to put the effort in to change his mindset and behaviour. He does want to go home but doesn't want the responsibility that comes with it

What about YOUR mindset and YOUR behaviour?

You are minimizing your part in this ‘I’ve said sorry so he needs to move on’, but then you’ve brought up his sexuality a few times recently. This stuff sticks. Read about ACES, reflect on your own part in these and mostly, put yourself in his shoes. His poor mental health is a result of his experiences, some of which you were a driving force.

Your son needs boundaries for sure but he also needs loves and acceptance for who he is.

LoveWine123 · 15/03/2025 08:08

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 08:04

Yes I agree that it's based on poor mental health.. he has no disabilities and no excuses as he could be a threat at this point. I've made a list on what it would take to have him back home longterm but it really would need him to be willing to put the effort in to change his mindset and behaviour. He does want to go home but doesn't want the responsibility that comes with it

I've made a list on what it would take to have him back home longterm but it really would need him to be willing to put the effort in to change his mindset and behaviour. He does want to go home but doesn't want the responsibility that comes with it

Have you done the same list for yourself? How will you be addressing your mindset and behaviour so that you are not failing your son?

richardosmanstrousers · 15/03/2025 08:08

I’m interested to know why social services have apparently placed a 16 year old with no disabilities in some sort of supported living with carers?

Oblomov25 · 15/03/2025 08:07

Reminds self to watch adolescence, I do like Stephen Graham.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 15/03/2025 08:06

I admit that I've brought up his sexuality a few times recently in heated moments but I take accountability while he doesn't

Accountability for his sexuality? Something you referred to as a ‘confession’ earlier?

There is some very troubling views from you being shown here, among a very complicated and damaging situation.

TeaRoseTallulah · 15/03/2025 08:05

It's a Netflix series not therapy.

Pootlemcsmootle · 15/03/2025 08:05

So I just read all the thread and your comments OP, and you sound like an abusive parent, but you don't realise it as you believe in a faith that abused bisexuals, so you feel justified.

You're now trying to blame Andrew Tate, you're trying to force the idea your son is autistic, you're making him go to counselling, you're forcing him to live outside the home when he's your child, all in a heavy show that makes clear you're telling him HES the problem. Thus is terrible behaviour on your part

YOU are the problem. You're abusive.

The thing that breaks my heart is that even with all this abuse from you, his mum, he STILL wants to come home. And meanwhile, you're here slagging him off and saying he has to be forced to watch some bloody show.

Your religion is abusive to bisexuals and you are enabling the abuse, and it's destroying the child you're meant to protect, there you go.

Hhoudini · 15/03/2025 08:04

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 07:32

I have put him in non-faith based therapy, both private when I could afford it at the time & through camhs. He even picked the second private therapist at the time.. he just didn't make progress

And yes I understand that I shouldn't have made those comments but it doesn't warrant him abusing me.

It doesn’t excuse it but it does explain it, there’s a difference which is significant.

Simonjt · 15/03/2025 08:04

From your posts him abusing you actually just seems like him mirroring your behaviour towards him.

DiamanteFan · 15/03/2025 08:04

Why don't you approve of medication? OCD can be very hard to treat with therapy alone (and therapy for OCD usually would be CBT based)

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 08:04

StealthMama · 15/03/2025 07:57

This is result difficult. But watching that show will do I good. He will have already read and seen worse online.

He's 16 and has been rejected by his family. He has no clear disagnosose so his behaviours are seemingly based on train response and poor mental health.

But as a 26yr old he poses a physical threat to you, so it's not easy to bring him home.

I think you two. And his social worked need to create an effective joint plan for how he can return home. What behaviours they need to see and align that with therapy.

Otherwise, he is at major risk of self destructing behaviour as he continues. And no education to prepare him as an adult.

Something doesn't seem right with all the info you are providing, but only your son knows the truth about what has happened to him to cause this.

Yes I agree that it's based on poor mental health.. he has no disabilities and no excuses as he could be a threat at this point. I've made a list on what it would take to have him back home longterm but it really would need him to be willing to put the effort in to change his mindset and behaviour. He does want to go home but doesn't want the responsibility that comes with it

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StealthMama · 15/03/2025 07:57

This is result difficult. But watching that show will do I good. He will have already read and seen worse online.

He's 16 and has been rejected by his family. He has no clear disagnosose so his behaviours are seemingly based on train response and poor mental health.

But as a 26yr old he poses a physical threat to you, so it's not easy to bring him home.

I think you two. And his social worked need to create an effective joint plan for how he can return home. What behaviours they need to see and align that with therapy.

Otherwise, he is at major risk of self destructing behaviour as he continues. And no education to prepare him as an adult.

Something doesn't seem right with all the info you are providing, but only your son knows the truth about what has happened to him to cause this.

oakleaffy · 15/03/2025 07:50

soupyspoon · 14/03/2025 23:10

Is he in care or lives with a family member?

I thought you might bribe with a pizza night or something. Not bribing with your love and attention.

Perhaps its not Andrew Tate that ruins young men as such all the time?

This...
Home life also has a real hand in forming a young man. {Or woman}

Pootlemcsmootle · 15/03/2025 07:49

atmywitsend1989 · 14/03/2025 23:52

At the time he told me he was bi sexual. I do regret looking for faith based counselling for him at first but we changed therapists once his behaviour hadn't improved but that still did absolutely nothing.. to clarify I'm talking about his rotten attitude and not his sexual identity.

Oh God OP, seriously? You got faith based counselling because he's bisexual? This is so desperately sad. That can destroy a teen boy. You need to tell him you love him, respect and value who he is, and completely accept that he is bisexual. Which is normal, and natural.

If he trusted you enough to tell you he is bisexual and then you rejected him to such an extreme that he got 'faith based counselling' then I think there's your real problem. He must feel so isolated and unhappy.

Starlight7080 · 15/03/2025 07:49

McSpoot · 15/03/2025 07:40

What was the faith-based therapy for? Was it some sort of "conversion" therapy?

I was wondering this. I can't think of many faiths that offer therapy and support being bi .

richardosmanstrousers · 15/03/2025 07:48

YABU to think watching a TV show will cure all of the deep rooted problems your son has. The idea that would want to bribe him to get a day at home with this is utterly crazy.

NiftyGreenEagle · 15/03/2025 07:47

You need to focus on improving the attachment with your son. You've acted in a horribly shaming way towards his sexuality, and he is living away from family. He must be so lonely and feeling rejected.

If it was me I'd honestly not enter into arguments about his Tate-like views. You need to massively repair your relationship first. Curiously question when he says sexist things, show him you respect him and actually like who he is.

HoppingPavlova · 15/03/2025 07:42

What was the faith-based therapy for? Was it some sort of "conversion" therapy?

It would have been so he could get the memo that he was an abomination, and that it wasn’t only the mum who thought this but everyone else including God. So, he then see’s himself as an abomination and acts that way. It’s completely fucked up behaviour on both the part of the parent and whatever ‘faith’ that offered this ‘therapy’.

BellesAndGraces · 15/03/2025 07:42

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 07:32

I have put him in non-faith based therapy, both private when I could afford it at the time & through camhs. He even picked the second private therapist at the time.. he just didn't make progress

And yes I understand that I shouldn't have made those comments but it doesn't warrant him abusing me.

Why are you so confident that a) yelling at your son when he “confesses” that he’s bisexual, b) making your child attend conversion therapy and c) subsequently bringing up his sexuality during arguments doesn’t warrant him abusing you? Actually, I think it does.

Out of interest, what warranted you, an adult with a fully formed brain, abusing your son? Because all of the above amounts to abuse.

McSpoot · 15/03/2025 07:40

What was the faith-based therapy for? Was it some sort of "conversion" therapy?

HoppingPavlova · 15/03/2025 07:38

Gobsmacked at how you refuse to understand the root cause is likely your behaviour, and that won’t be fixed whatsoever by watching this.

Your son, went to the person he should have been able to consider the safest person in the world. He told you he was bisexual (or in your deranged terminology, he ‘confessed’??), and instead of acceptance, love and support, like a normal parent, you went ape shit at him and sent him to some weird conversion therapy (which is what your ‘faith based counselling obviously was).

So, your son, in extremely formative years, and the turmoil of adolescence was essentially rejected by his mother and given the message he was bad/socially unacceptable/abnormal, all to the extent his mother could not even love him for who he is. Then, he starts acting out as he now see’s himself as a monster as that’s the message you have given him by your treatment. You even say you still continue to bring up his sexuality and hit him over the head with it.

You caused the damage and the person who now stands before you. And you think you can fix that by ‘bribing him’ (as you won’t give your love freely, but will only bribe him with things to get it……) with watching 4 episodes of a show? Fuck. Me.

atmywitsend1989 · 15/03/2025 07:32

I have put him in non-faith based therapy, both private when I could afford it at the time & through camhs. He even picked the second private therapist at the time.. he just didn't make progress

And yes I understand that I shouldn't have made those comments but it doesn't warrant him abusing me.

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BlueSlate · 15/03/2025 07:26

LoveWine123 · 15/03/2025 07:13

it sounds like this boy has been failed in a catastrophic way.

I agree.

He has a roof over his head. He's not homeless.

If the roof isn't a secure and permanent home, he is.

Hhoudini · 15/03/2025 07:25

This poor boy, he’s been let down and deserted by every adult in his life and you want to make time with you a reward for watching what by all accounts is a harrowing drama?

Have you had therapy, separately and together? Not faith based but proper therapy.

Of course his behaviour is wrong, it’s not acceptable to do those things, but given how you’ve described his life, he’s a ball of anger and guilt and shame. The boy told you he was bisexual and you brought in the heavies to shame it out of him. This is the saddest thing I’ve ever read on here. If you’re a troll, kudos, this is heartbreaking but weird enough that you can’t thing of anyone making it up.

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