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To think covering your work laptop camera is just paranoia?

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TealDreamer · 14/03/2025 16:49

My friend always puts sellotape over her work laptop camera when she’s not using it or in meetings. I used to think this was a bit much but I’ve just discovered my own work laptop actually has a built-in shutter for the camera - so clearly, even manufacturers acknowledge there might be a reason to cover it.

She insists it’s because “you never know who’s watching,” and while I don’t fully buy into the idea that someone is spying on us all the time, I do wonder if there’s any real risk.

AIBU to think this is just a conspiracy theory or is it actually sensible to cover your webcam when not in use? Do you do it?

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B1indEye · 16/03/2025 07:58

ElbowsUpRising · 16/03/2025 06:40

Mark Zuckerberg covers his camera with tape.

Yay dont say 😂😂

unsync · 16/03/2025 07:10

I cover mine, there are weirdos everywhere, especially online.

bloomingpoppies · 16/03/2025 07:01

I used to do surveys years ago, and I covered mine as with the name of software that one of them used I suspected that they might be using the camera to look at you. Then I’m guessing rules tightened up and they started asking permission to use the camera to see reactions (which I always refused). So I suspect I’d had good reason to be what some might call paranoid in those prior years.

ElbowsUpRising · 16/03/2025 06:40

Mark Zuckerberg covers his camera with tape.

daisychain01 · 16/03/2025 06:36

Hiddenmnetter · 15/03/2025 19:44

I think to be fair to the poster, whether they wrote TCP or Transfer Control Protocol (I think it is) wasn’t going to change your understanding of the answer 😳

Transmission Control Protocol but it's as near as damnit Grin

and I agree with what you said about understanding. It's all bloody gobbledygook lol

daisychain01 · 16/03/2025 06:33

Holdmeclosecooedthedove · 16/03/2025 06:17

It only takes 7 photos of someone's face to use deep fake software. There are all manner of applications for this and reasons why criminals would want to steal or manipulate your likeness

Oh give over, stop catastrophising and trying to to wind people up needlessly.

we all have at least one doppelgänger and anyway, so many people post up their photos and videos on social media, if someone wanted to steal your identity they wouldn't need to go to the bother of hacking your laptop!

Holdmeclosecooedthedove · 16/03/2025 06:17

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 16/03/2025 01:28

This. I couldn’t live life in such paranoia

It only takes 7 photos of someone's face to use deep fake software. There are all manner of applications for this and reasons why criminals would want to steal or manipulate your likeness

Holdmeclosecooedthedove · 16/03/2025 06:15

@TealDreamer poor Edward Snowden had to become an exile in Russia over trying to blow the whistle on this - nobody knows or cares what he was trying to say.

Holdmeclosecooedthedove · 16/03/2025 06:14

AquaPeer · 14/03/2025 18:21

Why? How would they record it? When you say activate it what do you mean? It’s only activated by a programme.

it’s like saying you’re at risk of your digital camera being hacked and someone watching it sitting on a shelf 😕

It's not. They can.

Apollonia1 · 16/03/2025 05:34

My laptop is in my bedroom. Once, in the middle of the night, I saw the camera light go green, as if it were recording.
I jumped out of bed to close the shutter.

I don’t know if there’s an innocent explanation for the light going green, but it’s made me more aware of the possibility of being hacked and now I frequently close the shutter when not in meetings.

Catatedog · 16/03/2025 02:16

i use the inbuilt shutter but dont know why

APATEKPHILLIPEWATCH · 16/03/2025 01:28

ItGhoul · 14/03/2025 17:41

I really couldn't give a shit about this. In the vastly unlikely event that my work laptop's webcam was hacked, all anyone would see while I'm working would be me sitting here typing in a box room. And when I'm not using my laptop, it's closed, so they'd see nothing.

This. I couldn’t live life in such paranoia

latetothefisting · 16/03/2025 01:23

ChungkingExpress · 14/03/2025 18:18

It depends on the vantage point they have, I guess. They may be able to see you typing passwords and pins. There may be documents in the room they can glimpse.

except the whole point of a camera is that when I do use it I can see what it shows! Which is my face and my face only. A laptop would have to be at an angle nearly half closed for the camera to have a view of the keyboard and therefore someone typing something in, so how would that ever work?

Hiddenmnetter · 15/03/2025 19:44

MasterBeth · 15/03/2025 10:18

Do IT people think it makes them look extra clever by using jargon acronyms on a forum for everyone, because it doesn't?

I think to be fair to the poster, whether they wrote TCP or Transfer Control Protocol (I think it is) wasn’t going to change your understanding of the answer 😳

daisychain01 · 15/03/2025 16:56

B1indEye · 15/03/2025 10:09

Yes but in your analogy locking the front door is better than not locking it as it adds an extra hurdle for a burglar/hacker to overcome. Although I can't work out how anyone would see you once the camera was covered, what's the equivalent of the back door in your scenario?

My point was around perception of safety, that by locking your front door, you're safe, even though the back door is on the latch, so if a burglar wants to they can easily walk round the back and get in through the back door. This actually happened to me when my house got broken into when I first moved many years ago, they jimmy'd off the old insecure slidey patio door. So I thought I'd locked up and went off for the weekend without a care in the world, when actually my house was simple to break into and they got in and did untold damage.

in the example of the camera, people think they are increasing their security /privacy by taping over the camera lens, yes, the hacker can't see them but as I said upthread, if a hacker has managed to infiltrate your computer, then the camera being taped over with a bit of cello tape is the least of your problems. they'll be doing a lot more damage, just like those burglars did to my house.

back to my recommendation, if anything gives cause for concern on a work laptop, then report it asap. One hopes that professional IT is well protected, but as we always say in Cyber Security the number 1 risk to security is People!

happy2025 · 15/03/2025 14:25

I work in IT (not claiming to know everything) and anyone who does will tell you - no data is safe, nothing ever gets deleted permanently and everything is hackable. Take no chances.
Both my kids laptops have camera stickers, mine has a shutter but is in my office so I rarely use the shutter.

Rummly · 15/03/2025 14:14

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 13:53

It's not stored data being stolen. It's transmitted data.

How are contact books and diary entries transmitted by a camera?

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 13:54

RichardMarxisinnocent · 15/03/2025 13:12

OK, so if the firewall and Internet security isn't enough to protect my camera, and you're advising that I cover it up, what extra measures can/should I take to protect the rest of the stuff on my laptop please?

Ask your IT department

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 13:53

Rummly · 15/03/2025 12:56

Would they not need access to the computer to steal data stored on it? Surely the camera doesn’t store anything? It’s ‘dumb’, isn’t it?

It's not stored data being stolen. It's transmitted data.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 15/03/2025 13:12

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 12:25

Why have anyone work in cybersecurity at all if a single firewall and some software stops everything?

Why have an alarm if you lock your doors?

OK, so if the firewall and Internet security isn't enough to protect my camera, and you're advising that I cover it up, what extra measures can/should I take to protect the rest of the stuff on my laptop please?

Rummly · 15/03/2025 12:56

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 12:09

Hacking into the camera can allow them to do other things. Access your calender and contacts for example. Personal data has value.

They can also use it to alter the pathway of transmission when you are using it. Including making an unauthorised device appear legitimate on your network.

They can of course do this while you are using it too, especially if you use hotspots or unsecured public WiFi at train stations, cafes etc.

Would they not need access to the computer to steal data stored on it? Surely the camera doesn’t store anything? It’s ‘dumb’, isn’t it?

madamweb · 15/03/2025 12:31

RichardMarxisinnocent · 15/03/2025 12:22

If I have a decent firewall and Internet security on my work and home laptops, why isn't that enough? If I trust the firewall etc to keep everything else on the laptop safe, why wouldn't I trust it to keep the camera safe?

We don't have an alarm at home because the thieves would be pretty depressed if they bothered to break in only to find a slightly damaged 15 year old TV and an ancient playstation thing. ...and that's if they made their way past the piles of Lego and footballs ... )

Likewise I don't bother covering my camera because anyone would hacked in would just see me drinking coffee and typing furiously and I imagine would get bored eventually

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 12:25

RichardMarxisinnocent · 15/03/2025 12:22

If I have a decent firewall and Internet security on my work and home laptops, why isn't that enough? If I trust the firewall etc to keep everything else on the laptop safe, why wouldn't I trust it to keep the camera safe?

Why have anyone work in cybersecurity at all if a single firewall and some software stops everything?

Why have an alarm if you lock your doors?

RichardMarxisinnocent · 15/03/2025 12:22

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 12:09

Hacking into the camera can allow them to do other things. Access your calender and contacts for example. Personal data has value.

They can also use it to alter the pathway of transmission when you are using it. Including making an unauthorised device appear legitimate on your network.

They can of course do this while you are using it too, especially if you use hotspots or unsecured public WiFi at train stations, cafes etc.

If I have a decent firewall and Internet security on my work and home laptops, why isn't that enough? If I trust the firewall etc to keep everything else on the laptop safe, why wouldn't I trust it to keep the camera safe?

AquaFurball · 15/03/2025 12:09

Rummly · 15/03/2025 10:17

Thanks. I have no idea what that means. I’ll take your word for it.

But if the end result is that a hacker gains access to a camera rather than a computer it would seem pretty pointless. You’d have to hack an awful lot of cameras for a very long time to get anything compromising. Millions of hours of people drinking tea, phoning Dave in accounts, typing memos or using Excel is not going to be much use.

Hacking into the camera can allow them to do other things. Access your calender and contacts for example. Personal data has value.

They can also use it to alter the pathway of transmission when you are using it. Including making an unauthorised device appear legitimate on your network.

They can of course do this while you are using it too, especially if you use hotspots or unsecured public WiFi at train stations, cafes etc.

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