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White people moving to colonized countries is kind of gross

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ScorpioKent · 14/03/2025 07:46

Following on from a post I just read where I didn't want to change the conversation from one about homesickness I was thinking about if I could move there.

And I felt really uncomfortable about it for the following reasons and I am probably being unreasonable but I can't shake the discomfort of the thought.

I couldn't live in a country being white, knowing that my people enslaved and subjugated and dispossessed the native population. People I know that moved from UK to Australia eventually pick up the...they have so much given to them, why don't they try harder, they are all wasters/ alcoholic/ crims...narrative about aboriginals after a while. Lots of doublethink and denial of history needed to get to that mindset. Of course, America suffering under the psychological guilt of doing similar to their indigenous people. Plus transatlantic slavery.

It's no wonder, psychologically, the country is built on guilt, denial, paranoia, right to arms, and a continued denigration of the indigenous to justify theft of land. If you have committed a crime on a people the national psyche has to be built on lack of empathy and dehumanization in the first place.

And then years pass, subsequent people move there. Are those feelings there at all?

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BishyBarnyBee · 14/03/2025 07:58

Bringing up Roman and Egyptian slavery is pretty crass really. Of course slavery has existed for thousands of years and there has been invasion and colonisation throughout history.

But the colonisation of continents for labour and materials to power the industrial revolution still affects us today. Much inherited wealth derives from slavery. Ingrained and systemic racism derives from slavery.

I don't agree with the OP entirely, but I don't think we can minimise the impact of the slavery that was the bedrock of the prosperity of European nations.

loadalaundry · 14/03/2025 07:58

This is the wrong platform for this 😆

Theunamedcat · 14/03/2025 07:57

Are you Maori?

NalafromtheLionKing · 14/03/2025 07:56

So you personally take responsibility for the actions of all people the same colour as you throughout the whole of history? I don’t and I think that is a slightly ridiculous stance to take. Anyone can move anywhere (subject to visa issues etc) these days and keeping “their” and “our” countries (or areas of countries) isn’t helpful to eradicating modern day racism.

Feedingpillow · 14/03/2025 07:55

I couldn't live in a country being white, knowing that my people enslaved and subjugated and dispossessed the native population

In what way are you responsible for “your people’s” actions? Why would you feel guilty about how they behaved? This is a very peculiar way to feel and comes across as a bit try-hard.

ItShouldntHappenToMeYet · 14/03/2025 07:55

Shouldn't the French (Normans), Romans, or those from Viking stock also feel guilty if they decide to settle here?
I agree that the white people attitudes towards native peoples in all the countries we colonised is shit, particularly in Oz, and that the newly emigrated soon develop the same attitudes towards native peoples as the 'local' whites.
However, wherever we are we all need to be making a bit more of an effort to stop racism everywhere.
Of course, there are those who are not like this, but ime, it's a thing for many.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 14/03/2025 07:54

Do you think the Italians, Scandinavians or French worry about this when moving to UK. Or the Spanish or Portuguese when moving to South America?

MrsTheodoreLogan · 14/03/2025 07:53

I don't consider people who kept slaves "my people" whatever colour they are.

ScorpioKent · 14/03/2025 07:52

DustyLee123 · 14/03/2025 07:48

If you want to talk about slavery you need to go back further in history, to the Romans and Egyptians.

Edited

Those people are not currently suffering from the injustice though, surely you see the difference?

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blubberball · 14/03/2025 07:50

I think that we can't take credit or blame for things that happened before we were born. We can only do what's right to treat people decently now.

Itisbetter · 14/03/2025 07:50

“My people” are human beings.

SlugsWon · 14/03/2025 07:49

So you'll never leave Europe?

DustyLee123 · 14/03/2025 07:48

If you want to talk about slavery you need to go back further in history, to the Romans and Egyptians.