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Content Warning (concerns S.A.) Added by MNHQ - To have expected more from school safeguarding

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123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 07:35

I honestly feel like I'm in an alternative universe at the moment.

My daughter is in her last year of a levels. She has been raped and experienced other sexual assults and cohersive control. This has been taken to the police, its taken about 6 weeks but she's done the interview, has an ivsa, therapy in place.

During this time her school attendance has been sporadic. I think that is understandable. The police, ivsa and therapy all talk about this being a hard time and doing what she feels comfortable doing etc.
The school are getting shirty.
Ive kept in communication with the school, the ivsa has spoken to them too.

Despite this, I had a call from safeguarding last night, pushing for my daughter to do her mocks. I said she had been doing well but the arrest too place on Wednesday and we have both had harassment from the family since, which has been reported and is being dealt with and how that's been very difficult, I couldn't work on Wednesday, my emotions were too huge, let alone my daughter.

The safeguarding lead then said, ' well hopefully she will bounce back quicker this time, that's the issue with children now, they need to build more resilience.

I am just dumbstruck.

I replied that this was a very serious matter and that if she was working it would be likely she would be off sick and she just gave me a patronising ' hmmm'

This isnt ok, is it.
I dont have any fight left in me now, but this isn't ok. Why do schools expect children to be like robots.

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BusyMum47 · 15/03/2025 10:05

ginnybag · 14/03/2025 07:44

I'm sorry but they seriously said she should 'bounce back quicker' from being raped?

That's absolutely horrifying.

It's so far past not okay that its in another country. The resilience comment, too. No-one, much less a teenage girl, should be expected to have 'resilience' around being raped.

I completely appreciate you're exhausted but that needs a complaint to the SLT immediately, not least because it strongly suggests they aren't going to be anywhere close to the right environment for her right now.

Best wishes to you and your daughter.

I work in a school & 100% agree with this! ⬆️ Please report this dreadful comment to the SLT & make an official complaint to the school governors. Utterly awful things to say & hugely unprofessional.

So sorry you were treated like that.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 15/03/2025 09:38

The behaviour of school staff is absolutely disgusting and irresponsible. It doesn’t make any sense either. Do they really believe that bullying a rape victim into complying with their ridiculous demands will bring good results?.Good on you for complaining and hopefully you have the strength to push this if the head doesn’t react accordingly.

Hugs to you and your daughter.Flowers

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 15/03/2025 09:20

I can’t imagine how you must be feeling. This is beyond ridiculous and honestly am disgusted at their behaviour.

Penguinmouse · 15/03/2025 09:14

123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 16:23

Thank you

Dd has therapy offered by the local rape crisis support. She's had an assessment and her first session is next Friday at 4pm. Though this is outside of school times she had to tell her maths teacher she won't be able to attend his revision session which is running then. He told her it really wasn't good enough and she should try to move her therapy.
She also missed a revision session that was running yesterday lunchtime and got a ton of grief over it when she went back into school today.
There is also revision sessions running every Sunday evening which she's never gone to. Tbh, I think this is nuts in itself.

She is managing to see her ivsa weekly around lessons and we even managed to get the police interview completed outside of school times.

Anyway, still no response, not even an acknowledgement.

Edited

Bloody hell this school is terrible. When you get an acknowledgement of your complaint, add this in. How can these teachers be so boneheaded? It’s a therapy session at Rape Crisis, not a holiday!

Biglifedecisions · 14/03/2025 17:17

At this point we might be considering resits. Poor darling has been through helll.

Biglifedecisions · 14/03/2025 17:16

I would complain immediately to the head and board of governors. That person needs to be removed from safe guarding Jesus.

Iloveanicegarden · 14/03/2025 17:04

I have only read the first page of this (I must admit) but my initial reaction is why are they making her do mocks ? The results are almost bound to be affected, how can the poor girl revise?
In a former life when I was a teacher a girl in my tutor group was raped on the first day of study leave whilst she was taking a break from studying. She was told by the school to come in for exams if she felt ok but otherwise her grades would be awarded after special consideration.
Let your daughter dictate the pace.

Mischance · 14/03/2025 16:56

I am sick and tired of hearing this trendy word "resilience" - it has become a substitute for empathy and simple common sense.

ThreeLocusts · 14/03/2025 16:53

123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 16:23

Thank you

Dd has therapy offered by the local rape crisis support. She's had an assessment and her first session is next Friday at 4pm. Though this is outside of school times she had to tell her maths teacher she won't be able to attend his revision session which is running then. He told her it really wasn't good enough and she should try to move her therapy.
She also missed a revision session that was running yesterday lunchtime and got a ton of grief over it when she went back into school today.
There is also revision sessions running every Sunday evening which she's never gone to. Tbh, I think this is nuts in itself.

She is managing to see her ivsa weekly around lessons and we even managed to get the police interview completed outside of school times.

Anyway, still no response, not even an acknowledgement.

Edited

It gets worse and worse. What planet is that maths teacher on??

Some schools are hopeless in a crisis. Granted, you don't want to disrupt DD's life more than inevitable, but reading through your posts, taking her out of this school may be the way to go.

It would also have the advantage that then you can really let them have it. They deserve all the grief you can give them and more for treating your daughter like that.

So sorry about what your daughter has gone through. I hope you all find healing.

123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 16:23

Thank you

Dd has therapy offered by the local rape crisis support. She's had an assessment and her first session is next Friday at 4pm. Though this is outside of school times she had to tell her maths teacher she won't be able to attend his revision session which is running then. He told her it really wasn't good enough and she should try to move her therapy.
She also missed a revision session that was running yesterday lunchtime and got a ton of grief over it when she went back into school today.
There is also revision sessions running every Sunday evening which she's never gone to. Tbh, I think this is nuts in itself.

She is managing to see her ivsa weekly around lessons and we even managed to get the police interview completed outside of school times.

Anyway, still no response, not even an acknowledgement.

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YourHappyJadeEagle · 14/03/2025 16:11

I’m so sorry, what a horrendous experience for your daughter.
absolutely crass, vile comment from the safeguarding lead. That person needs retraining or replacing.

Please make sure you get some support for yourself, perhaps via your GP or Rape Crisis. I hope your daughter has all the professional support she needs.

Purplebunnie · 14/03/2025 16:07

Speechless. How can that person be in the job they are

Hugs to you and your daughter

Edited because I'd missed a word out in my rage

CatsWhiskerz · 14/03/2025 16:04

So sorry to hear this, you all must be in a terrible place. These interactions with school aren't helpful!
I'd firstly read the school policies around anything relatable and see if there's anything in there to help. I'd also contact the exam boards and council for guidance. Do you know what your DD wants or is she just unable to think straight?
Good luck with everything, and if the exams are for a uni place maybe speak ton the university for support or UCAS

MillersAngle · 14/03/2025 15:58

Honestly I am utterly horrified by the response from the safeguarding teacher. Teachers as humans are capable of all of the character flaws out there and this person has some fatal ones.

I think I would focus your energy for now on the situation at home and not get dragged into too much energy on the school.

Any senior manager who would give a person with that type of character a safe guarding role is not someone I would want to invest too much energy on given what your family are dealing with.

Focus on your daughter, the police investigation and your own mental health all going well she will not be dealing with that school ever again after the summer. It is clearly a very poor environment for her.

Balloonhearts · 14/03/2025 15:57

I'd suggest she go fuck herself energetically with the largest, pointy object she can find and see how quickly she bounces back. Bitch.

sixtyandfabulousofcourse · 14/03/2025 15:50

what a total bitch I am sorry but rape and SA take a lot of coming to terms with note I did not say getting over or forgetting because believe me you do not but you learn to live with it eventually. It is early days as you said the family are having to be dealt with don't tell me they think he is innocent and akin to an angel. she will also have the court case I hope she will get lots of help. Exams can be taken again when she feels stronger and if it does not happen now so be it it is least of her problems. Give her my love and I send you lots of strength and hope some how you can both get through this

StrongasSixpence · 14/03/2025 15:46

This is shocking and while I would expect a quick response from the head, a few hours is overly optimistic. I'd chase if I hadn't had at least a holding reply by midday Monday. Heads' days can be very variable and they are often in meetings which cannot be postponed or called into deal with very urgent staffing and safeguarding matters happening at the school.

They may not get a chance to look at correspondence until after the school day has finished.

ChungkingExpress · 14/03/2025 15:42

Wow, they’re acting as if she’s been involved in a minor scuffle with another girl or something, not a serious sexual assault. Complain to whoever will listen and take it further if they don’t!

Would she consider maybe taking some time out and sitting her exams next year instead? If not, you should be able to get some special considerations for her I would think.

I Hope you can all start to heal in the near future.

placemats · 14/03/2025 15:32

The principal is likely getting information from various teachers and also the exams officer as to how to proceed. So it's wise to wait for a response.

123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 14:30

That is helpful, I didn't know that was a thing.
I feel i need to give the principal time to respond first and depending on their response can escalate

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LetMeGoogleThat · 14/03/2025 14:24

That's shocking, dont just complain to the school. Report the DSL to the LADO (Local area designated officer) who sits on the multi agency panel with the police at the LA level. Google your LA name and LADO contact details and should find them.

123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 13:45

Haven't had any response from the principal as yet, I expected a quicker response if I'm honest.

I'm sorry to everyone who has personal experience of any of this, I don't have the energy to reply individually, but thank you for sharing.

And of course mocks would usually be important, we do value education, else Dd wouldn't be doing a levels.... but this has kind of thrown a wrecking ball through dds life and her doing her best is what is important, not something that in the grand scheme of life, is not.

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Newbutoldfather · 14/03/2025 12:26

Obviously the DSL was wrong and, at the very least, needs retraining. To be honest, it sounds as if she is in the wrong job. Ask to talk to the head of pastoral (sometimes called deputy head, pastoral) for some reason. They are trained in this and are generally kind and empathetic. They can put support in place at a school level.

But taking mocks does have value, both the sitting of the papers themselves and also going through them in class afterwards. If your daughter finds school too traumatic, they can also be sat at home. Of course, they don’t have the same value as evidence that way, but it is still a useful process and also keeps your daughter in a degree of routine.

I am not sure if I have ever taught a pupil who has experienced what your daughter has gone through. As a subject teacher, I doubt I would have been told. But I have taught pupils who have suffered other forms of serious trauma and, to be honest, they all react differently. Some are desperate to keep to routine and others go AWOL for a while. All a teacher can do is be sympathetic and help as much as possible.

And, yes, you should consider applying for ‘special consideration’. It is really hard to get these days but your daughter has a good case. You should be aware, though, that it is a small upward adjustment and won’t turn a C into an A.

Finally, it is about what your daughter wants and is emotionally capable of. The school needs to work around that.

Seeingalight · 14/03/2025 12:04

I'm so sorry for what you and your precious DD are going through. It's absolutely disgusting the way the school is behaving.

All they care about is results and it's taken their humanity.

Iknowaboutpopular · 14/03/2025 11:59

123dontcomeatme · 14/03/2025 10:27

Honestly sat here crying a bit.
Thank you.
I can't believe I'm having to fight like this or that my daughter is, after everything.

You're doing all you can for her OP. We can all see that. You're both being so brave ❤