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Would you resent me if I was your employee or colleague ?

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Jimisnotmyname · 14/03/2025 07:03

DC is seriously ill and inpatient in hospital. Expected to be in for several months. I have been asked by the hospital to be on side to help with various aspects of their care. In theory, I could take my notebook in and work from the ward (and do some catch up at night from home) but I am not coping. I am falling apart and not coping with anything. Would I be unreasonable to take sick leave? We get 6 months on full pay. I have been with my employer for over a decade and only was once off sick for a month (after major surgery). It would mean my colleague's holiday will have to be cancelled and I would let a lot of people down in my department and I feel hugely guilty about that. But I don't know what else to do. I know the decent thing would be to resign but I need the sick pay to cover bills. Please be honest.

yabu - suck it up and carry on working or resign.
yanbu - get signed off

OP posts:
Moonnstars · 14/03/2025 07:40

Sorry you have a seriously ill child. I can see both sides to this which I think is the dilemma you have. You absolutely should be there for your child and it sounds like being signed off sick would be the right action (your own mental health being the reason).

If I was honest though I would be annoyed at you being off if I was your colleague (though I would understand why) as I know where I work you would not be replaced as it would be argued there is not enough money to be paying someone sick leave and to be paying someone to do their job (sorry to be brutal). The company should not be able to stop others taking leave but I don't know whether they could legally enforce this.
Also not meaning to be unkind, i would then be annoyed if this went on for 6 months (having to do your extra work) only for you to still not be able to return and to have to continue doing the extra work for even longer. Also without knowing the extent of your child's illness, I would be even more frustrated if you took all the sick leave (and no replacement at work was found) and then you decided to leave completely. I would personally find this frustrating as a colleague to think that everyone had been covering you all this time when you had no intention to return and it stopped the workplace finding a replacement.
Anyway that is just me being honest and thinking about the long term and sorry if it sounds harsh.
I hope your child makes a good recovery.

SinkToTheBottomWithYou · 14/03/2025 07:39

SometimesCalmPerson · 14/03/2025 07:13

You’re not sick, this is what parental leave should cover.

Indeed. I can’t believe how dishonest people are being.

LittleBigHead · 14/03/2025 07:39

HundredPercentUnsure · 14/03/2025 07:09

Absolutely agree. Ensuring a colleague's holiday is covered (and your workload too) is not your responsibility, it's managements. Definitely take SL.

There are some workplaces where this wouldn’t happen. There would be no money for cover. Colleagues would have to add to their workloads- I work in a UK university and if the OP were an academic there’d be no cover. We would have to cancel the OP’s teaching and cover all her other work.

So it’s not always that simple.

Mydogisamassivetwat · 14/03/2025 07:39

Fuck work and fuck your colleagues. This is your child and your life.

And no, I would only feel compassion for you if I worked with you. I’d be telling you to get signed off with stress because my god, I cannot think of a more stressful situation, and if my annual leave was cancelled I’d be raising hell with my shit employer, and taking my time off anyway, not you. If your employer is shit, that’s not on you.

Spookypoo · 14/03/2025 07:39

GP here and I wouldn’t hesitate to sign you off sick, and suspect/hope most of my colleagues would feel the same.

I hope all goes Ok with your child.

Jimisnotmyname · 14/03/2025 07:38

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 14/03/2025 07:36

Surely if your colleague has holidays approved they can't cancel them. You going off sick for 6 months, your employer should get someone in to cover you

Where did I say I want to go off sick for half a year? I said we get full sick pay for that period, not that I expect to get signed off for that long. Maybe I wasn't clear in my OP.

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Bitofanchange · 14/03/2025 07:38

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 07:34

Realistically as someone without children, if I was told I had to cancel my holiday I’d be very angry.

With OP or your company?

if it’s with OP, why?

Because you don’t have children, surely doesn’t mean that you’ve no empathy for the DM of a seriously sick child in hospital?

She’s not taking time off and cancelling your holiday for an afternoon sports day.

Jimisnotmyname · 14/03/2025 07:37

0ohLarLar · 14/03/2025 07:33

Op have you checked what benefits might be available? I wonder if you might be able to access DLA etc for your child and whether this could be the financial answer?

I personally wouldn't judge. If it was someone in my team with a seriously ill child I'd probably be trying to offer them some sort of paid exceptional lesve, but i appreciate that isnt something that's possible in a stretched team where the money is needed to cover replacing staff

We get middle rate DLA which is used to cover certain aspects of my child's condition/disability. It's about £72 per week. It's nowhere near enough to replace my wage and it's not a wage replacement in any case but is used for DC (and pretty much gets all spent that way). It's clearly not the financial answer.

OP posts:
Whaleandsnail6 · 14/03/2025 07:37

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 07:34

Realistically as someone without children, if I was told I had to cancel my holiday I’d be very angry.

Surely your anger would be directed at your employer though?

The employer should have a contingency in place.

What would happen if you were already on your annual leave and out of the country? The employer couldn't just cancel your leave then if someone went off sick.

This is not on the op to feel responsibility for and any anger felt towards her would be misplaced

Iwannakeepondancing · 14/03/2025 07:37

They’ll get over it. You need to be with your child. I’d never resent anyone this.

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 14/03/2025 07:36

Surely if your colleague has holidays approved they can't cancel them. You going off sick for 6 months, your employer should get someone in to cover you

YourLimeScroller · 14/03/2025 07:35

Admittedly nearly 23 years ago but my DH fitted while driving (first time fit) and following the crash (no-one else involved but a large wall) was in hospital, not knowing whether he’d pull through for the first few days. He was then bed bound and flat for a month due to broken spine. After a few days emergency leave my head of HR called and “ordered” me to a doctor for a note for stress. All involved, doctor, employer, colleagues were so supportive and understanding (DC1 & DC3 plus DSC to care for too). No-one wants to see a valued colleague struggle. I was off for a month - nothing but kind words, support and flowers from them.
This is undoubtedly stress, you won’t be able to function at work, so let them put in some temporary arrangements rather than try and fit around day to day changes and step up with supporting their friend and colleague.

Bitofanchange · 14/03/2025 07:35

I don’t understand the colleague would need to cancel their holiday.

If you went sick whilst the colleague was on holiday, would they call her back? So why can’t she go if you’re already sick?

anyway it’s the company that employs too few staff that’s the issue.

ForTealBee · 14/03/2025 07:34

Realistically as someone without children, if I was told I had to cancel my holiday I’d be very angry.

0ohLarLar · 14/03/2025 07:33

Op have you checked what benefits might be available? I wonder if you might be able to access DLA etc for your child and whether this could be the financial answer?

I personally wouldn't judge. If it was someone in my team with a seriously ill child I'd probably be trying to offer them some sort of paid exceptional lesve, but i appreciate that isnt something that's possible in a stretched team where the money is needed to cover replacing staff

Bitofanchange · 14/03/2025 07:33

AgnesX · 14/03/2025 07:26

I'd be asking for special paid leave, rather than sick leave. I very much doubt that your GP would sign you off for that length of time.

I think you’re very much mistaken.

Is OP fit for work? She’s not eating, sleeping etc, she’s clearly suffering with a reactive mental health issue.

Why would this not be classed as sick leave and be treated accordingly?

Tandora · 14/03/2025 07:28

Dear OP, of course you must take sick leave. Please make sure you do this asap. Everyone should understand and , if they don’t, that’s for them to deal with, you have enough already on your plate.

I’m so sorry your child is unwell. Hope that things get easier soon x

Cyclingforcake · 14/03/2025 07:28

I manage a department in a hospital. I would be encouraging you to take sick leave rather than try and work piecemeal from your child’s hospital bed. Far easier to cover a known absence than manage with odd days of absence and incomplete work done at strange times by someone who through no fault of their own is struggling to cope. And there’s no way I would let someone else booked and planned annual leave be impacted by a long term sickness absence.

AngeloMysterioso · 14/03/2025 07:26

HundredPercentUnsure · 14/03/2025 07:15

but I am not coping. I am falling apart and not coping with anything.

Yes it sounds like OP actually is. You can take time off for mental health just the same as you would physical sickness.

All I would warn about is that employers (in my experience) tend not to treat long term sickness for mental health issues the same way they do physical ones.

AgnesX · 14/03/2025 07:26

I'd be asking for special paid leave, rather than sick leave. I very much doubt that your GP would sign you off for that length of time.

verycloakanddaggers · 14/03/2025 07:25

SometimesCalmPerson · 14/03/2025 07:13

You’re not sick, this is what parental leave should cover.

The op is not fit for work which is the question the GP must answer. They are not coping, not sleeping, not eating.

AlertSnail · 14/03/2025 07:25

I am so sorry to hear about your child. I would say it would be extremely difficult to work in these circumstances and being there for your child when you can is more important. I have had colleagues go through similar and I didn't consider for a second that they shouldn't be off.

For those that say "you're not sick" this is an incredibly stressful situation, causing physical and mental health symptoms. As a GP I wouldn't hesitate to support someone with sick leave for this.

SpringSoon25 · 14/03/2025 07:25

I’ve been there OP, do whatever you need to do to get you & your son through this. Work isn’t worth your brain space right now.

SometimesCalmPerson · 14/03/2025 07:24

Jimisnotmyname · 14/03/2025 07:15

I am not sleeping, not eating. I lost half a stone, I am on edge. I wouldn't say I am fine. People go off with stress for far less but thank you. I worry about what people think and this is probably the perception at work. It's not what I wanted to hear but helpful.

Then if you’re sick, you dint have a choice. You need to be off because you can’t work.

Ddakji · 14/03/2025 07:24

I wouldn’t be cross with you but I’d be livid with my workplace if my holiday ended up cancelled because of this. They need to get in proper cover.