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To want 9s not 7s for my child in their GCSEs?

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ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 17:40

Child is a model student and no problems with behaviour or attendance. Definitely seems intelligent and diligently completes homework, often without prompting.

Report is 6s and 7s. Husband is pleased and says they're As and Bs. He thinks only kids in private schools doing extended papers get 9s.

I got As, Bs and Cs many years ago but I always strived for As. AIBU to think they should be getting 9s or at least striving for them?

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80srockmumontherun · 13/03/2025 22:38

Please do not use lazy and dyslexic in the same sentence. Dyslexic children are not lazy the have a specific learning difficulty.

ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 22:29

CalleOcho · 13/03/2025 22:23

@ZeldaFighter DC is also the middle child and gets ignored because of the needs of his siblings.

This is so sad. Do you and your DH genuinely have no time at all for him?

Please don’t ignore him. As hard as it may be with other children with additional needs, please don’t ignore him. The term ‘glass child’ is a real thing.

No, we don't literally ignore him! But we ask him if he wants help and he says he's fine. He organises his own equipment, bags, etc - i rarely have to help him with anything, unlike his siblings.

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CalleOcho · 13/03/2025 22:23

@ZeldaFighter DC is also the middle child and gets ignored because of the needs of his siblings.

This is so sad. Do you and your DH genuinely have no time at all for him?

Please don’t ignore him. As hard as it may be with other children with additional needs, please don’t ignore him. The term ‘glass child’ is a real thing.

bringonyourwreckingball · 13/03/2025 22:20

My dd2 got mainly 7s a couple of 8s at GCSE. She is currently smashing her A levels and on course for A* across the board. Which I don’t think she would be if I had destroyed her confidence pushing her too hard at GCSE. Encourage your child and support them but at the end of the day GCSEs aren’t all that.

hobbcat · 13/03/2025 22:20

What are your child’s target grades? If they’re on their target now, lay off. If they have the potential to improve, support and encourage them to do so. Your own achievements are irrelevant here.

supersonicginandtonic · 13/03/2025 22:20

I want my kids to be happy and not stressed and overwhelmed. Whatever their results I will be proud.

ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 22:19

Everyone, thank you very much for your comments (even the rude and hurtful ones). I'm very grateful to get your thoughts.

I'm struggling with this on a number of levels and for different reasons. My own background is of being the bright middle child with non-academic siblings. I was left alone by my parents, which was just fine, because in my ultra-competitivep
friendship group, less than 95% was subject to scorn. I got the A-Levels I needed and met DH at the Russell Group uni we both went to.

DC is also the middle child and gets ignored because of the needs of his siblings. He is outperforming his siblings by miles. Oldest DC is lazy, possibly dyslexic and will be lucky to pass any exams. Youngest DC has diagnosed SEN and his own challenges.

I genuinely don't know if he is working hard. He does an hour or so of study every other night - I did more at his age. We think he's doing well and his teachers were pleased at Parents Evening.

But we asked how we can support him and they said "keep doing what you're doing" - we're not doing anything!!! It's all him!

I'm terrified that we're not supporting him enough and it will all slip away.

You have all made me see that a lot of this is me projecting my issues and worries. I will take the good advice to show how proud I am of him and do my best to support him.

Thank you.

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LouiseOnline · 13/03/2025 22:18

ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 17:40

Child is a model student and no problems with behaviour or attendance. Definitely seems intelligent and diligently completes homework, often without prompting.

Report is 6s and 7s. Husband is pleased and says they're As and Bs. He thinks only kids in private schools doing extended papers get 9s.

I got As, Bs and Cs many years ago but I always strived for As. AIBU to think they should be getting 9s or at least striving for them?

You say your child is a model student and completing all her homework. That means she is striving for better grades! Getting grade 7s is great. Most good sixth forms require grade 7s for A level so she meets the threshold. Consider her mental health too, please. A happy child will be a productive child. Don't grind her down expecting more when she is already working hard. You'll only drive a wedge between you and her.

echt · 13/03/2025 22:17

Bloody hell OP, you're beyond unreasonable.

Please lay off your child. It's GCSE. Give them some space to grow.
Don't let your issues spoil their time.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 13/03/2025 22:16

ZeldaFighter · 13/03/2025 17:40

Child is a model student and no problems with behaviour or attendance. Definitely seems intelligent and diligently completes homework, often without prompting.

Report is 6s and 7s. Husband is pleased and says they're As and Bs. He thinks only kids in private schools doing extended papers get 9s.

I got As, Bs and Cs many years ago but I always strived for As. AIBU to think they should be getting 9s or at least striving for them?

Do you want them to get them for you or for them? Are they reaching their actual potential or is this just arbitrary on your part?

atmywitsend1989 · 13/03/2025 22:13

Too much pressure. I was a model student at that age with asian parents who put all the pressure on me to get all A's.. they tried to hide their disappointment on my GCSE results day but it was obvious. Same throughout college and university... It puts an insane amount of stress on a child. Especially on a gifted one!

I expect my hardworking 14 Yr old to get 7s on her stronger subjects (she's predicted 8s as her highest scores although she's not in year 11 of course.. I still wouldn't put so much pressure on her) and a pass at the very least on her weakest subjects, but expecting all 9s and being disappointed in 7s would make a child feel awful..

rosemarble · 13/03/2025 22:08

Only read OP's post (always makes me wonder).

I'd love my DS to get all 9s.
After the summer fails and a slight improvement in the Jan mocks, he's on target to pass them all, with some 6s and maybe the odd 7.
He has matured a great deal over the last few months. He's seen that even a little work gets good results (he's a bright enough lad). If he was a model student, worked diligently and always completed his h/w he would meet his potential. I provide an environment for him to do so. The motivation needs to come from him, with support from me.
It's not a great school. They don't actually have a teacher for business studies. Stats was a horror show, but they've got an excellent teacher now (a bit late, but she's amazing). He'll be fine. I'm proud of him and keeping it in perspective. There are lots of children in his school who won't get English and Maths.

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/03/2025 22:07

kaos2 · 13/03/2025 21:55

7 is an A but yes some children do get 9’s…
my dd got them across the board and some of her friends did too in state school so it’s not that rare

DD got one 8, the rest 9's and this was common amongst her friend group. I suspect that you and I are basing this on our own experience of it "not being that rare" because we know several who did it, and our kids have the advantage of being top flight academically coupled with being a school that helped them achieve that. A top flight student at a crap school is unlikely to do it, same as a not so bright student at a good school. I was a good student at a good school but my mothers attempt at "support" was to make it very very clear that failure was not an option and name calling, shouting abuse etc if I didnt do what she thought I should be doing. So I barely scraped passes.

I think it is a lot of ability but a fair bit of luck too in terms of teaching, family support etc. I didnt realise how rare it is to be honest.

WhatGoesHere · 13/03/2025 22:01

Breakdown of all 9s.

To want 9s not 7s for my child in their GCSEs?
WhatGoesHere · 13/03/2025 21:59

kaos2 · 13/03/2025 21:55

7 is an A but yes some children do get 9’s…
my dd got them across the board and some of her friends did too in state school so it’s not that rare

It's is incredibly rare to get all 9s ... only 1200 16 year old students got all 9s out of over 670,000 students. That's like 0.2% ...

https://www.ocr.org.uk/about/policy-and-public-affairs/articles/results-trends-2024-gcses/#:~:text=More%20than%205.6%20million%20GCSE,students%20in%20England%20this%20summer.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/infographic-gcse-results-2024/infographics-for-gcse-results-2024-accessible

Lyannaa · 13/03/2025 21:59

Children who get 9s across the board are Oxbridge material usually.

kaos2 · 13/03/2025 21:55

7 is an A but yes some children do get 9’s…
my dd got them across the board and some of her friends did too in state school so it’s not that rare

WhatGoesHere · 13/03/2025 21:53

MellowCritic · 13/03/2025 20:53

This isn't correct. Alot of children do achieve 9s and if you look at or have experience in the grade boundaries it's achievable with hard work. I'm sure all parents would love all 9s so let's not be too hard on op.

Really, 5% a lot?

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Lyannaa · 13/03/2025 21:51

EconomyClassRockstar · 13/03/2025 21:49

I think if you strived for As and came away with As Bs and Cs, it's a bit much to then expect your child to get all 9s. He inherited his intelligence from his parents. So absolutely fine to strive for 9s but don't be disappointed if he doesn't get them.

Exactly. WTF do parents expect their child to achieve things that they couldn’t? So unreasonable.

User79853257976 · 13/03/2025 21:49

A 9 is an A**, so better than what you got. It’s not about just turning up and doing the homework. There is an element of natural flair that gets them a 9. Your daughter might have that, but 6s and 7s are good.

EconomyClassRockstar · 13/03/2025 21:49

I think if you strived for As and came away with As Bs and Cs, it's a bit much to then expect your child to get all 9s. He inherited his intelligence from his parents. So absolutely fine to strive for 9s but don't be disappointed if he doesn't get them.

niadainud · 13/03/2025 21:48

ItsUpToYou · 13/03/2025 21:29

Well that’s probably what they said when As were no longer rare and they added “A star” in. To avoid eventually ending up with “A* recurring”, they changed the system to numbers so they have the space to increase to 10 (11, 12…) when necessary.

(I can’t seem to include the asterisk for “A star” without making it bold 😄)

Edited

This is what I have always assumed from when the numbered grades were introduced with 1 as the lowest, but do you know it for a fact? I'd be interested to see it stated that this was always the intention.

Lyannaa · 13/03/2025 21:47

GCSEs are much harder since the introduction of 9-1. YABU.

niadainud · 13/03/2025 21:45

MellowCritic · 13/03/2025 20:53

This isn't correct. Alot of children do achieve 9s and if you look at or have experience in the grade boundaries it's achievable with hard work. I'm sure all parents would love all 9s so let's not be too hard on op.

Of course it's correct to say that the vast majority of candidates don't achieve a 9. It may be "alot" of children altogether, but it's a very small proportion; there will be many pupils who will never reach that level no matter how hard they work.

Moonlightdust · 13/03/2025 21:36

This generation has so much pressure on them. My poor teenager is in burnout because of it. Just encourage and support your child. GCSEs are not the be all and end all! To get 9s is tough! My eldest got mostly 7s & 8s with a couple of 6s and we were proud as punch! As long as they’re happy and healthy, and able to do their best - who cares!