What can I do that isn't on an individual level regarding climate change?

?? I think you posted on the wrong thread!😄

You do know that the Thames used to freeze so regularly that a fair was held on it.

You do know that there was a mini ice age in Tudor times.

You do know that the terrible summers and poor harvests contributed to the French Revolution.

You do know that if there wasn't climate change, we'd still be connected to Africa?

You do know that if there wasn't climate change, humans wouldn't even be here.

Think on and don't swallow everything you hear.

she didn't mention anything that sounded like a CS.
She was aying it's the little people being told to make changes whilst the wealthy just carry on being wasteful.

I do get heartily fed up of people shouting CS to perfectly valid questions and opinions

I'm struggling to find highest wind speeds in Uk any more recent than 1986/ 1962 which are the highest wind speeds
For longer term this was interesting

Overall, DNV's Wind Index demonstrates that 2023 was approximately 1% less windy on average for the UK (coming in at 99.3%) and Ireland (coming in at 99.2%) than the 1996-2022 long-term reference

Ask why if Climate Change is going to kill us all

1. Why is Heathrow being expanded?
2. Why are they demolishing huge parts of the Amazon to build a road for those who will be attending a climate change conference?
3. Why do government ministers fly all over the world for, in most cases, nothing.
4. Why is land being built on, leading to poor drainage and flooding.
5. Why is there not massive investment in cheap or even free public transport.
6. Why do various "green" initiatives always cost ordinary people money

That will do for starters. After all, if we are all going to suffer dreadful things, why are things going or not going on?

Have a little ponder.

The answer will amaze you. Could it possibly be because tis mostly bollocks? Might there be another side to the coin?

I dunno but I think it might be.

If you are still unconvinced: demolish your house, burn all your possessions, live on grass, freeze in the winter and melt in the summer. Eat very little. Join Marjorie, Crispin and Arabella in hanging from bridges, destroying paintings and stopping traffic. If you really want to make an impact, do all this while living in China. Begin walking now.

Ask why if Climate Change is going to kill us all

1. Why is Heathrow being expanded?
2. Why are they demolishing huge parts of the Amazon to build a road for those who will be attending a climate change conference?
3. Why do government ministers fly all over the world for, in most cases, nothing.
4. Why is land being built on, leading to poor drainage and flooding.
5. Why is there not massive investment in cheap or even free public transport.
6. Why do various "green" initiatives always cost ordinary people money

That will do for starters. After all, if we are all going to suffer dreadful things, why are things going or not going on?

Have a little ponder.

The answer will amaze you. Could it possibly be because tis mostly bollocks? Might there be another side to the coin?

I dunno but I think it might be.

If you are still unconvinced: demolish your house, burn all your possessions, live on grass, freeze in the winter and melt in the summer. Eat very little. Join Marjorie, Crispin and Arabella in hanging from bridges, destroying paintings and stopping traffic. If you really want to make an impact, do all this while living in China. Begin walking now.

True, conspiracy theories like "scientists are lying and doing the bidding of the political elite" will still be thriving in 20-30 years.
Gotta laugh at a claim that people who trust science are gullible, while in the same post ranting about a fantasy conspiracy.

What do you make of the melting ice caps and the storms we've been having the last year or so? The hottest days on record and the highest wind speeds in our normally temperature UK climate? The flooding around the world?
Do you think these are natural phenomena and that the fear about climate change is made up? I only wish it was.

Indeed. Worrying though, when the world is supposedly teetering on the precipice of climate related destruction. You’d think they’d prioritise that and not just keep ensuring the importation of fake Pandora charms and the like and ranting on about further trade deals. I mean they sure talk about it a lot and tell the people the changes they need to be making but there never seems to be any real impact on those giving the orders. Climate change and what the little people can do about it is Busy Work for us and will have no real impact, we’ve reduced as much as we can, to go further will mean a huge reduction in day to day living standards, but only for the little people obviously.

I will never comprehend why people are SO willing to believe and keep doing what these corrupt politicians tell them to when we can clearly see that they’re not changing ANYTHING themselves. It’s so utterly disgusting. Why aren’t people furious about this instead of starting threads on MN asking how they can do even more to kiss the boots of the political elite?

Book mark this post. In 20-30 years, the world will hardly look any different, most of us will still be here - not me I am pretty old - and there’ll be some other mass fear inflicted on us to keep us in line.

Why don’t you study - A levels of a degree? See where it takes you career wise

What do you make of the melting ice caps and the storms we've been having the last year or so? The hottest days on record and the highest wind speeds in our normally temperature UK climate? The flooding around the world?
Do you think these are natural phenomena and that the fear about climate change is made up? I only wish it was.

What do you make of the melting ice caps and the storms we've been having the last year or so? The hottest days on record and the highest wind speeds in our normally temperature UK climate? The flooding around the world?
Do you think these are natural phenomena and that the fear about climate change is made up? I only wish it was.

Name your sources. You are in an algorithmic loop that will send you certain things. So branch out. Research more. Look at alternative sources. Fact check.

sorry, but I DO remember and there absolutely was the scaremongering that we had gone past the point of no return

It was also "terrifying" in the 80's with talk of Southern England being uninhabitable by 2000 due to warming.
This was after the "terrifying" 70's where the science was very clear that we were entering a mini ice age and most of Northern England would be uninhabitable by 2000 due to being permanently ice/ snow bound.

I've been reading a lot that heat pumps aren't the amazingly efficient things that were touted.
If you live in a colder area of England you may well need a secondary heating system .
I also disagree that removing a functioning heating system for a different one is environmentally friendly.
Same with smart meters. How is replacing a perfectly working meter with a different one any better for the environment? Most people with basic intelligence know that the more appliances you have on the more electric you use. Why do you need a new meter to tell you this?

I've been reading a lot that heat pumps aren't the amazingly efficient things that were touted.
If you live in a colder area of England you may well need a secondary heating system .
I also disagree that removing a functioning heating system for a different one is environmentally friendly.
Same with smart meters. How is replacing a perfectly working meter with a different one any better for the environment? Most people with basic intelligence know that the more appliances you have on the more electric you use. Why do you need a new meter to tell you this?

Indeed. Worrying though, when the world is supposedly teetering on the precipice of climate related destruction. You’d think they’d prioritise that and not just keep ensuring the importation of fake Pandora charms and the like and ranting on about further trade deals. I mean they sure talk about it a lot and tell the people the changes they need to be making but there never seems to be any real impact on those giving the orders. Climate change and what the little people can do about it is Busy Work for us and will have no real impact, we’ve reduced as much as we can, to go further will mean a huge reduction in day to day living standards, but only for the little people obviously.

I will never comprehend why people are SO willing to believe and keep doing what these corrupt politicians tell them to when we can clearly see that they’re not changing ANYTHING themselves. It’s so utterly disgusting. Why aren’t people furious about this instead of starting threads on MN asking how they can do even more to kiss the boots of the political elite?

Book mark this post. In 20-30 years, the world will hardly look any different, most of us will still be here - not me I am pretty old - and there’ll be some other mass fear inflicted on us to keep us in line.

Nope. Not me. I think we have a very very different understanding of the world.