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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:37

There are so many men who want their wives to work but not in a way that inconveniences them in any way or impacts wives’ domestic duties.

Do you hear women making such a fuss when their partner is away with work for a week?

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

Ceramiq · 13/03/2025 12:27

TBH £40k is not a lot for a role that requires international travel for a week. I am forever reminding my DH (who runs a company) that he mustn't expect poorly paid female employees to have domestic back up at the drop of a hat (sometimes he moans that they don't want to come in person to meetings that involve two nights away midweek at short notice).

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:35

To be fair. The company is treating her as available for international travel which would suggest shes either high up in the business or has the ability to be away from home - neither of which is true in her case as she's struggled progression wise & doesn't have a stay at home husband.
So without adequate compensation (IE. An extra travel fee which would cover the added expense of being away from home for a week+ including weekend) she should drop out.
Not to teach herself or her husband a lesson but to teach the company

Do think it's only reasonable to be asked to travel if your partner is a stay at home parent? I mean, that's one way of keeping women out of certain professions I guess.

MotherOfCrocodiles · 13/03/2025 13:35

Hm your job sounds quite demanding for 40k in the private sector. That would be an ok ratio of commitment to money if you were in the junior stages of a 'big' career or perhaps working for a charity, but as a permanent role in the private sector- yes they are asking too much IMO

babyproblems · 13/03/2025 13:32

i was a bit stuck at first because yes he is earning most of the money AND doing most of the childcare… BUT then I thought it doesn’t matter what you are each earning IMO. Your money should all be pooled and all expenses paid. All remaining money split equally between you.
I think he wants to make you financially dependant on him so he has all the freedoms and all the income. Don’t allow this to happen with someone like this - he’s shown his true colours. When you ask him what the actual problem is for him what does he say??? If he is burning out, suggest you (both) buy in some help from outside. Problem solved. Don’t let him tell you you’re not as good as him at earning and therefore should just give up and stay at home so he can have freedom. No way. Could counselling help? He sounds very ignorant and self centred to make these arguments.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:32

DottieMoon · 13/03/2025 12:39

I agree with your DH.

What sort of company makes it mandatory to travel abroad for a week over the weekend too? Doesn’t sound like a decent one, this sort of expectation on only 40k? Sounds like a right piss take.

Regardless on whether the company say it’s mandatory, why would you as a parent not put your foot down and say this is unreasonable?

I'm a parent and I've never 'put my foot down' over international travel. My child has another parent who is capable of solo childcare for a week. It's not hard.

coxesorangepippin · 13/03/2025 13:30

Keep your job op

Waterweight · 13/03/2025 13:30

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:00

He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'.

Is he a bit thick? Or just a plain old misogynist?

To be fair. The company is treating her as available for international travel which would suggest shes either high up in the business or has the ability to be away from home - neither of which is true in her case as she's struggled progression wise & doesn't have a stay at home husband.

So without adequate compensation (IE. An extra travel fee which would cover the added expense of being away from home for a week+ including weekend) she should drop out.

Not to teach herself or her husband a lesson but to teach the company

honeylulu · 13/03/2025 13:28

I can see why he's pissed off but he's also unreasonable because (a) a woman should always protect her own employability/pension/independent income and (b) as an employee you don't have the flexibility that he has.

I think the practical solution is to outsource more. I know there are many people who WFH and do school pick up and then work with the kids around but I find it impossible to concentrate properly so even when I WFH my youngest is at after school club (or holiday club) until 5.45/6 unless she's at home ill or something. My husband is the same when he WFH. It's like trying to juggle two jobs at once otherwise.

Outsource cleaning. Get shopping delivered if you don't already.

AlphaApple · 13/03/2025 13:26

This sounds far less about a fair share of domestics, or finances or anything and more about a domineering and controlling man who is aggrieved that you are not putting his needs front and centre 100% of the time.

Is he controlling in other ways? Do you see your friends and family on your own? Does he like them? Do they like him? Does he encourage your hobbies and interests?

Do you have a trusted friend you can talk this through with? Or would counselling help? It's not a happy life constantly being berated by your husband for perfectly normal job requirements.

DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB.

DeepRoseFish · 13/03/2025 13:24

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:07

Isn't the problem all rooted in the fact that he sounds like an absolute arsehole who is angry, critiques you, is a misogynist and believes he's superior?
I continue to be blown away with why so many women would rather this life than the absolute peace of being single.

I think this is the case OP and he’d be the same whatever you do!

Being single is SO much better than dealing with this BS.

Tell him to pipe down or leave!

MarkWithaC · 13/03/2025 13:23

mildlydispeptic · 13/03/2025 12:56

Sounds like he's fixating on the numbers and not registering how important your career is to you, on numerous levels. Would it be worth getting some marriage counselling?

I agree with this. 40K is not a bad salary, incidentally, but you've made massive progress and dealt admirably with your challenges, and your job and career clearly mean a lot to you. He should recognise and respect that.
I don't think it sounds like you ask him to shoulder a massive burden. Look at what women describe themselves as doing day in, day out, with no drama, some of the threads on here, for perspective.

old2theforum · 13/03/2025 13:23

You earn £40k, he earns 3 times more, so your combined income is £160k. With that you should be able to get an au pair, cleaner and even get meals in.

AnneElliott · 13/03/2025 13:21

The not spending money update means that he's a bit of a knob.

The kids need childcare to enable you both to work. Sounds like he's happy to fudge that in place of an ASC on the basis that he works for himself. Well that's fine but you don't - and most employers expect childcare in place until you've finished for the day.

In practical terms I get it - I was the higher earner for years and yet did all the crap and mental load as my job was more flexible. But it seems like your DH is resentful that he's taken on the woman's role. I know lots of other mothers who are also higher earners and doing the boring shit!

Daleksatemyshed · 13/03/2025 13:20

Unless he's always worked for himself then how can he not understand? Your job includes meetings and travel, you don't get to pick and choose which bits you'll do. I don't think he'd be any happier if you made more money, he won't come out and say it but he'd prefer you to work PT, preferably school hours and term time then he could please himself.

TiredCatLady · 13/03/2025 13:18

So he doesn’t like spending money and wants you to earn more money… Say you got a promotion tomorrow. Same ts&cs but £70k. Do we think this would magically make it ok for him? I doubt it, it still wouldn’t be enough or it would still be taking you away too much or whatever else.
Say his business, for whatever reason, folded tomorrow. It happens. What would he expect to happen? Would he able to move into a corporate job?
I wonder is he actually afraid of you progressing?

Fioratourer · 13/03/2025 13:16

I think the biggest point here is that you love your job. As your husband he should be supporting you. Yes one week away is an inconvenience but as someone’s wife I just got on with it when this happened. It’s not a regular thing. Yes he may earn more money but your job is important too. Particularly important to you. Your children don’t seem to suffer because he is around to help with school runs etc. Your 40k still contributes to your home and life.

sandyhappypeople · 13/03/2025 13:15

I see his point, I have the completely flexible job and DH has the inflexible job, a lot of everything falls to me and to be honest it pisses me off, I'm just as busy as DH, if not more, but I have to do it because I am the only one around to do things, if I can't do it it is my responsibility to organise someone to cover me. It's the assumption that it is my responsibility that drives me crazy, I often get little sleep as I have to work late into the early hours to keep up with anything happening in the day and my workload.

DH work is very set hours, but if he was supposed to be doing something then it was cancelled, then last minute he was having to do something that wasn't planned and I was expected to drop everything and try and shift my work around at a moments notice to accommodate it I would be as resentful as your husband I'm afraid.

The only reason it works is because we 50/50 the household stuff, and we work well as a team domestically, he will pick up my slack and I will pick up his slack when it comes to chores.

Something is going wrong here OP and your job is obviously a big part of it, you shouldn't have to give it up but there must be a compromise somewhere, you say you do the cooking, but if he is doing pretty much all childcare from collections until what 7pm while also trying to run a successful business it sounds like he is drowning, what happens after that, how are your chores split? bath/bedtimes etc? do you both get any downtime?

Ophy83 · 13/03/2025 13:14

I understand your reluctance to tell him about the trip but in doing so you've also left him less time to plan/potentially impacted his ability to work that week. Can you show him you've got plans to lighten his load? E.g. go through his diary for that week and see where he'll have difficulties then come up with a solution like cooking double portions of things like bolognese sauce this week and freezing half so the thing you usually do will still be done? / asking another school mum to collect your child with hers?

Dh and I are both occasionally away for work and if so we do make sure we arrange cover for things like drop offs

Whoarethoseguys · 13/03/2025 13:13

Unrelated38 · 13/03/2025 11:39

Tbh I can see his point. He does most of the childcare and earns most of the money. And I do see his point about cooking. When I've been managing the kids all day I'd rather go cook by myself than stay with the kids.

Honestly I can really see his point. But I don't see a solution. You giving up your job isn't really fair. Can you pay for more help? If he earns 3 times what you do then you've got like 150k a year coming in. That's alot of money in my books. We support our family just fine on your income alone. You should be able to afford some help.

He doesn't do most of the childcare. They share childcare and she does all the cooking in the evenings, and the days she is away and he has to give hem dinner its not because she is going out with her friends its her job and I don't think 40k is a small salary at all! Even if he does earn more than her it doesn't mean her career isn't also important.
OP between you, you have a large income much, much higher than anyone I know, can't you hire a nanny or childminder to provide after school care

SharpLily · 13/03/2025 13:07

Well a couple of things stand out...

He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'
Then surely he must disagree with the whole concept of travelling for work - why is it unreasonable for you to do unless it's also unreasonable for a man to do it. Surely he realises the world as it is can't function unless some people travel for work, and there's no reason women shouldn't do it as much as men, unless he is a complete misogynist.

He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.
What? So he can't be interrupted in what he's doing but you can?

This is the crux of the matter really, isn't it? He thinks his job is so much bigger and more important than yours and therefore he shouldn't have to accommodate in any way. In the old days we used to call them male chauvinist pigs.

I don't believe in LTB at every other thread but unless he's got an awful lot going for him in every other area and this misogyny is some really out of character aberration, he sounds like a dick. He doesn't respect or value you properly. You might want to consider how your children will be influenced by his attitudes as they grow up.

babiesinthesnowflakes · 13/03/2025 13:06

Honestly, I do kind of see his point. Ideally if one parent is in a significantly lower paying role then the trade off should be that it allows them the flexibility to do more of the childcare / pick ups and drop offs / general life and family admin etc. This applies whether it’s the mother or the father in the lower paying role.

I do also think the expectations on you are quite unreasonable for a £40k salary. I’m not saying £40k is a bad salary (if all other things are equal) but I’d expect you to be earning more than that for the amount of travel involved. I’m guessing perhaps the pay is lower if it’s quite a competitive industry.

So I don’t know what the solution is, and it does sound like the way he’s handling it is a bit unkind and immature, but I do see where he’s coming from.

treesandsun · 13/03/2025 13:04

I would argue that if anything was ever to happen in terms of your relationship ie you split up or he dies - then you will need an income and therefore being in a job is going to be easier than trying to find a job when having stayed at home. Good for him he runs his own business - so therefore he gets to decide how to run it - you work for a business and they get to decide how they run and that is not to suit your husband. I would find his constant undermining of your job and contribution tiresome.
I would say you need to sit down when tempers are less frayed and work out his main issues and what can and can't be changed - so he is not reacting to stuff as it happens. You travelling is part of your job - what is his solution to that - does he want you to pack in your job?

JoyousEagle · 13/03/2025 13:04

“I have my own business and earn 3x what DH does. I do the majority of childcare during the week with school pick ups. DH seems to think that because I work for myself, I can bend round his schedule, for example if I’m in the middle of something and he’s going to do school pick up, he’ll expect me to drop what I’m doing if a meeting gets set up for him. I have the children all afternoon and when DH comes home from working in the office, he goes straight to do cooking but I’d sometimes like him to take over the children while I cook. Now he has to do week long trips abroad which will put even more pressure on me to fit my work around the children. I feel like he thinks that because I work for myself, it’s not as important for me to get things done because I don’t have a boss monitoring things.”

He’d probably be called a cocklodger who takes the piss with childcare and doesn’t understand the work that goes into being self-employed.

EndlessTreadmill · 13/03/2025 13:03

He is being very rigid and narrow-minded. Of course you need to be able to travel, most jobs now expect it. In mine I have to travel a lot more than that.
A few suggestions:

  • Can one of the grandparents come and stay at your house that week. When I travel my MIL comes to stay and do childcare/help with cooking. Takes pressure off DH and whilst he might not be thrilled if it was my mother, he is happy if it's his.
  • Sounds to me like the issue is not this trip, it's a sense you are not pulling your weight in general. If that's true, then you need to step up, if not, can you get some additional help (eg a teenager to do the pickups and a bit of homework on a couple of the days? Someone to come in and do a bit of batch cooking so dinner is literally a reheat?). That way, the ask on him is a bit less
  • Can you negotiate an early finish or something on one of the day, so you pick up a little more.

But in summary - push back. It's not about your salary, it's about your ability to keep a job which you enjoy, and you will need for the future!