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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
polishhendo · 13/03/2025 14:07

I'm curious what's your social life/hobbies are like? Do you both get time to yourselves each week, and if so what does that look like exactly?

BlackCatsForever · 13/03/2025 14:07

Am I being really thick? Because I’ve read the OP carefully and I can’t see where she said that her DH does the bulk of the housework.

Bemused the number of posters who seem to think that earning more buys you the right to do less childcare or housework. Surely that should be determined by who is available and who has time?

I mean I’m the higher earner in my household but I work fewer hours and have the the option of flexible working unlike my DH who does shifts. So I do more at home.

When out DC were younger we would have been better off if DH had been a SAHD but I would never have suggested that as his job is important for his mental health.

polishhendo · 13/03/2025 14:06

What's with this assumption you have to bow to every whim of a corporate employer? I have a corporate job and fortunately my employer understands the dynamics of modern life and the reality that both parents work. Travel should never be imposed or demanded, and if it is a frequent requirement for the job, well the job shouldn't have been accepted without discussing first with your other half.

You are allowed to say no to your employer, and if you don't through fear of the implication on your career then clearly you have a poor relationship with your manager/employer. I also agree 40K for a job requiring frequent travel is pretty poor. The median salary across the whole of the UK is 37K, so basically getting a few K more than average for inconveniencing your family life on a regular basis.

Having said that your DH has a pretty poor attitude and has serious issues if you can't broach subjects like this without fear of his reaction.

Ceramiq · 13/03/2025 14:06

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 14:02

This will blow some of your minds......an international officer working at my university will earn between £34k and £38K and they'll be expected to travel regularly and for more than a week at a time! Plus travel will be economy 😂

I think this is a different situation. When you take on a role like international officer at a university, travel IS the job and you know it from the start and you presumably take the job on wanting to spend time travelling internationally. I agree that the salary is low (but salaries in education are low) but the T&C of the role are clear from the outset.

When you have a desk job that requires ad hoc travel, the T&C and logistics are very different.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/03/2025 14:06

I think if your DH has help from family and the means to outsource then he should suck it up.

lechatnoir · 13/03/2025 14:04

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:30

I wouldn't be impressed as a higher earner if I then also had to look after children independently for a week.

I'd expect a higher salary involving international travel or a new job with a lower salary but no travelling.

So if your partner had a job they loved but didn't earn as much as you, you'd expect them to step down/back and take on childcare just because your job is more important better paid ?

I earn a pittance working for a charity doing something I'm passionate about and would say it's a big part of who I am. If my DH suddenly decided that because I earn far less than him that my job isn't important enough to justify to hours I spend out of the house, I'd tell him where to shove it & lose all respect for him. Assuming bills can be paid, salary shouldn't really come into it IMO if you both have jobs/careers you value, then you have to work together to share childcare & family responsibilities regardless of who earns what.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 14:02

This will blow some of your minds......an international officer working at my university will earn between £34k and £38K and they'll be expected to travel regularly and for more than a week at a time! Plus travel will be economy 😂

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:57

Jobs that require you to travel do NOT pay the 6 figures so many people think they should. Most people have to travel economy, some are capped in terms of spend and distance for financial and climate reasons, but you are expected to go where the work/client etc

I agree, but at the same time there’s a long way between 40k and 6 figures.

I’d expect a new role or new demands in an existing role for travel abroad, which will have childcare implications, to have at least some pay increase.

Jk987 · 13/03/2025 13:55

He's out of order. If he earns 3 x your salary that's £120k and he can hire some help if he wants. Or at least get some easy meals from Cook etc.

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:54

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

There’s 2 aspects to this. Should she be paid more for a job involving international travel, sure; should he be tackling it in this way - hell no.

It’s perfectly possible to support her work while encouraging her to renegotiate her salary or look elsewhere for a similar position better pay.

Molstraat · 13/03/2025 13:51

He sounds nasty, abusive, belittling and very controlling.
In short, not someone who you should depend on for your security.
Certainly not a relationship that I would feel secure in.

He wants you to be available to make HIS life easier, thats it.

He doesn't want to parent bare the minimum.

Do not be coerced into giving up work....that is now a crime.

Get a live out nanny.
You do not dxist for his convenience.

MzHz · 13/03/2025 13:49

Wages over the last 30 years have not increased for the average working person. Only at the top the numbers have grown into stupid amounts of money. The vast majority or people in receipt of Housing benefits are IN WORK. this is a travesty, our jobs should be enough to pay for the roof over our heads. Jobs should not be topped up by income support. but this is another story

Jobs that require you to travel do NOT pay the 6 figures so many people think they should. Most people have to travel economy, some are capped in terms of spend and distance for financial and climate reasons, but you are expected to go where the work/client etc is.

If i was happy with the job i have and didn't have to endure petty requirements and hoops that HR have come up with to change the role I took on into something totally different and not compensate me for it, i would be happy staying where i was, my H would he happy to support me to do so, because my job makes me happy. As it is, we've reached HR tipping point and I'm leaving.

The issue here is not the job/pay/travel, it the attitude of the OP H.

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:48

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:43

Whose sacrifice? His?!

40k is a perfectly healthy amount of money. She’s paying NI contributions and presumably into pension, that will pay dividends in the long run. How will he magic up another role that will suddenly pay double? Could she be paid more - sure, and she perhaps needs to have a serious conversation with her firm. But pressurising OP and making her feel bad about her income she’s worked so hard for is unacceptable.

Edited

Roles with an international travel requirement will typically pay far higher than £40k due to the time and energy sacrifice required to facilitate the demands of the job.

The one exception would be right at the start of a very lucrative career where most people won’t have kids.

I don’t think OP should leave her job. The options would be to get a different £40k a year job with more flexibility and no travel, or a job with similar travel requirements that pays more.

ThighsYouCantControl · 13/03/2025 13:47

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:58

I've asked him what his ideal solution would be and he's never been able to provide me with an answer.

He just wants me to either make more money, push back on crucial elements of my current job, or get a new job paying more and that is more convenient for him and our family.

It's not possible to only perform half my role and do the bits that suit my home life the best. Thats just an unrealistic option. So the only option would then be to quit my job and look for another.

But it's not a reasonable expectation from him that I would be able to go out and get another job with a significant salary increase that enables me to WFH every day, collect the children and be with them during my working hours.

Honestly, I think he needs to check his privilege. He’s incredibly lucky to have a job that apparently pays him a shedload and be around so much for his children. I’d kill for that work life balance. So would my husband and probably many others.

Realistically, you’re not going to get another job that pays more but also gives you more time at home day to day. If he can’t see that he’s a fucking idiot. Or he’s being deliberately awkward.

Mustreadabook · 13/03/2025 13:47

blueshoes · 13/03/2025 11:37

Does he want you to be a SAHM or find another job?

Could you get wrap around care at school for the days that you are working in London every week? Or eveyday if you are both still working when the children get home. It might make it all a bit more manageable.
No way should you give up your job. But you shouldn't really be trying to look after kids while working at home either, that is going to be stressful and not as productive.

Middlechild3 · 13/03/2025 13:45

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

He should be batting for you not tearing you down. Keep doing what is required to progress in your job. Make sure he can't shaft you come your week working away by somehow not being available for your kids and expecting you to cancel.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:45

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:37

There are so many men who want their wives to work but not in a way that inconveniences them in any way or impacts wives’ domestic duties.

Do you hear women making such a fuss when their partner is away with work for a week?

100% this!

It's a week, it's not that hard!

travailtotravel · 13/03/2025 13:44

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:30

He does the breakfasts (cereal) and I do 95% of the evening meals.

Despite me cooking most of the evening meals, he then twists it around and gets angry with me because he feels that days I'm working in the office or in London he has to deal with the stress of his own work and the children until I get home at 5:30 where I avoid the chaos at home and 'swoop in and only have to do a bit of cooking'. Confused

Yeah so for this alone, go away for your week and show him how much you do do around the home. FFS, you're super lucky you're as flexible as you are workwise. I think the PP who said he things he's doing pink jobs and doesn't like it has the nail on the head.

outerspacepotato · 13/03/2025 13:44

Your husband doesn't want to be raising his children with the amount of involvement he currently has. Your husband does not respect your work.

It sounds like you do plenty but he wants you to be available 24/7 and that's just not possible unless you bow down to him, quit your job, do everything and become financially vulnerable in the process.

Given his attitude, I certainly wouldn't quit. He sounds unreasonable, misogynistic, and disrespectful. He sounds like he thinks he's your boss, not your husband.

The work he's compaining about could be easily outsourced by having a nanny. If you quit your job, you would be giving up salary, pension contributions, and chances to advance in your career. He sounds like he would be whining that while you were doing 100% of childcare, you wouldn't be contributing financially.

I think you've got marriage troubles with his expectations and dislike of parenting and this is definitely not the time to quit your job

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 13:44

If it was discussed first, I'd never agree to it.
If it wasn't discussed first then that would be part of the problem and yes, relationship ending.

Wow. All for one week of solo childcare....madness.

You've made me even more grateful my husband is pretty chilled about this.
When I was asked to go on my first international trip he earned double my salary and DS was 3. We both knew that the trip would be really beneficial for my career so he encouraged me and even bought me a guide book in case I got time for sightseeing.

In fact, DH is currently on a two week trip to Australia for work. I have a pretty full on job yet I'm still managing to cope as a solo parent. It's slightly more stressful than when DH is at home but it's only two weeks.

MzHz · 13/03/2025 13:43

With a job paying £40k, it might not be telephone numbers, but it's a decent job and this is a way above the average wage for this country. You don't get this kind of job or salary without being trained/educated/working damned hard to get there.

I always think about the other organisation, the one paying the £40k. They 'have a deal' with the OP, and they pay her in exchange for her labour. To them, they are important as a business. It is really unfair on them that they are to be considered a waste of time because of the money she is paid.

This is less about economics than logistics and it royally boils my piss when women have to draft in help in the form of mothers and friend etc to support the father of the kids to do the basics that single parents do all day, every day of the week.

I remember a friend thanking her circle supporting her while she went to Paris for a work trip of like 2 days, batch cooking, drafting in parents and friends to help with school lunches etc. FFS! why advertise that your H can't step up for a couple of days and feed and care for his own (primary aged) kids. I was single at the time and working my arse off in a fairly low paid job keeping the roof over my head and doing what needed to be done. Men don't get to use weaponised incompetence to control how women work/live.

Then I needed to work for the money, nowadays I need to work for the grey matter, the interaction and the personal growth/sense of fulfilment. Ok so this is changing in the next few months, but I still need to make sure that I am content in my life and motivated to lie the best way I can.

Mirabai · 13/03/2025 13:43

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

Whose sacrifice? His?!

40k is a perfectly healthy amount of money. She’s paying NI contributions and presumably into pension, that will pay dividends in the long run. How will he magic up another role that will suddenly pay double? Could she be paid more - sure, and she perhaps needs to have a serious conversation with her firm. But pressurising OP and making her feel bad about her income she’s worked so hard for is unacceptable.

InSpainTheRain · 13/03/2025 13:42

I would say definitely keep your job. To me his attitude seems quite controlling - anyone understands that you can't just pick the bits of a job they want or only do calls then they want, whether they have worked in the corporate world or not. Your travel doesn't seem excessive to me either. It also means that as a family you have a safety net; just say something happens to DH in terms of not being able to work for a bit or perhaps his business has a bit of a down turn - having another income is really important in this situation and takes the pressure off.

It should also count for a lot that you enjoy what you do and are progressing in your career this is great because it gives fulfillment and also is good for you and your future (savings, pension, expenses for yourself) otherwise you'd have to go to him for everything and you are more tied to him (but perhaps this is what he wants).

Our DC are young adults now but DH and I have always supported each other in our careers although sometimes it can be a bit tricky, we've worked round each others schedules, we always told each other in advance of trips so we could arrange cover (thank you MIL!) My DH thankfully realises that it's good for everyone to be fulfilled and we work as equal partners. I really hope you can successfully resolve this - and well done in your career so far - you go girl!

Mrsttcno1 · 13/03/2025 13:39

BountifulPantry · 13/03/2025 13:36

I agree…

£40k for a job that requires international travel…. Sorry but I think your OH has a point there. They’re clearly underpaying you and it’s affecting him and your family life.

In his head he is probably thinking that the sacrifice of you being away is not worth it for your pay. Which…. It isn’t. I agree with him there.

Yeah I can sort of see this to be honest.

If OP was posting to say that she was the higher earner AND the one doing the bulk of the childcare while her husband was working for less £ and going away for work she’d be told he’s a cock lodger and to leave him because he’s not adding anything.

FrozenFeathers · 13/03/2025 13:37

JoyousEagle · 13/03/2025 13:04

“I have my own business and earn 3x what DH does. I do the majority of childcare during the week with school pick ups. DH seems to think that because I work for myself, I can bend round his schedule, for example if I’m in the middle of something and he’s going to do school pick up, he’ll expect me to drop what I’m doing if a meeting gets set up for him. I have the children all afternoon and when DH comes home from working in the office, he goes straight to do cooking but I’d sometimes like him to take over the children while I cook. Now he has to do week long trips abroad which will put even more pressure on me to fit my work around the children. I feel like he thinks that because I work for myself, it’s not as important for me to get things done because I don’t have a boss monitoring things.”

He’d probably be called a cocklodger who takes the piss with childcare and doesn’t understand the work that goes into being self-employed.

Nice try, but in this instance the OP would be called controlling and unreasonable.