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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:38

I imagine if we had family abroad, we'd all go and make a family holiday out of it because we'd have to consider annual leave.

We've done that, DH has taken DS without me and he's gone on his own.

I even managed to tie in one of my work trips with a visit which made it more affordable!

It wouldn't just be a one week works trip though, would it? With more progress would likely come more work trips, possibly even more frequently and that isn't what I would ever want.

Depends on the job I guess. I specifically have an international job but only need to travel 2/3 times a year at most.
Members of my team might do one trip a year or even every two years.

It's not always excessive.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 20:23

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:13

We don't have any family abroad

Let's hope that doesn't change!! My SIL unexpectedly moved abroad a few years ago. It's not a move we could have predicted.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that life is unpredictable. I would never have imagined that I'd be doing the job I am if you'd asked me when I got married.

Saying you'd divorce someone because they went on a one week works trip seems very inflexible and a tad harsh! But each to their own I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

I imagine if we had family abroad, we'd all go and make a family holiday out of it because we'd have to consider annual leave.

It wouldn't just be a one week works trip though, would it? With more progress would likely come more work trips, possibly even more frequently and that isn't what I would ever want.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:13

We don't have any family abroad

Let's hope that doesn't change!! My SIL unexpectedly moved abroad a few years ago. It's not a move we could have predicted.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that life is unpredictable. I would never have imagined that I'd be doing the job I am if you'd asked me when I got married.

Saying you'd divorce someone because they went on a one week works trip seems very inflexible and a tad harsh! But each to their own I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

Summerhillsquare · 13/03/2025 20:02

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:58

I've asked him what his ideal solution would be and he's never been able to provide me with an answer.

He just wants me to either make more money, push back on crucial elements of my current job, or get a new job paying more and that is more convenient for him and our family.

It's not possible to only perform half my role and do the bits that suit my home life the best. Thats just an unrealistic option. So the only option would then be to quit my job and look for another.

But it's not a reasonable expectation from him that I would be able to go out and get another job with a significant salary increase that enables me to WFH every day, collect the children and be with them during my working hours.

Someone who repeatedly complains of the same thing without either taking action themselves or proposing a solution, is either mad or a bully.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 20:01

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 19:49

I would've said that I made it very clear how I felt about that before marriage and children and my stance hasn't changed.

It also wouldn't be a compromise, it would just be my partner doing what he wants anyway.

Does your ban on travel extend to trips with friends? Or to visit family?

We don't have any family abroad. Weekends/long weekends with friends? Absolutely fine. Just as I'd be fine with an overnight/the odd few nights of occasional work travel.

Longer holidays are family holidays.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 19:49

I would've said that I made it very clear how I felt about that before marriage and children and my stance hasn't changed.

It also wouldn't be a compromise, it would just be my partner doing what he wants anyway.

Does your ban on travel extend to trips with friends? Or to visit family?

TunnocksOrDeath · 13/03/2025 19:44

40k is well below median average salary for London, but significantly higher than average for Wales, Northern Ireland and North East England. I think if DH is having to arrange his own 'more flexible' working hours around OP's more rigid needs as an employee, it's not unreasonable for him to question if it's worth it for that salary, depending on where they are. However I think it is very unreasonable of him to just moan, rather than come up with a practical suggestion to improve matters for everyone.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 19:43

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 18:40

@SouthLondonMum22
So if you were my husband you'd have either told me to turn down a once in a lifetime career opportunity which had resulted in me doubling my salary, getting a PhD funded and an opportunity to visit countries I'd never been to before....which in turn has meant my DH and DS have visited these countries as they sometimes travel with me.
Or you'd have divorced me?
All for the sake of a week of solo childcare once or twice a year?

Let's hope you never need your partner to compromise for you!

I would've said that I made it very clear how I felt about that before marriage and children and my stance hasn't changed.

It also wouldn't be a compromise, it would just be my partner doing what he wants anyway.

ChateauMargaux · 13/03/2025 19:34

Your family income is 160k... it would be tax efficient for you to earn more and for him to cut back. He could possibly talk to his accountant about paying an assistant role out of his business expenses.. but his salary can easily bear childcare costs... neither of you should be attempting to work while looking after your children.

If you were both on £40k... you would both be working as hard as you could to support each other to advance in your careers.

He is lucky he can run his business with so much flexibility and that you can share the load on some days..

Mandylovescandy · 13/03/2025 19:34

I am advertising a role just now for £40k (fairly rigid pay structure in my organisation means the experience and skill level of the role is capped at that) and I expect some travel as the job can't be done without it. I don't think that the amount of travel is excessive for the money (in the role and got the OP) and I don't know what is so hard about looking your kids for a week especially when you can afford to buy in help and have family close by

HeyDoodie · 13/03/2025 19:31

It’s so important that your confidence is growing in your job, you’re successful and enjoy your role. It may take a while to earn more but you’re on course to succeed.

HeyDoodie · 13/03/2025 19:27

I think you should do your new job and enjoy the week away abroad. He should be supporting you in this as everyone has to start somewhere. I think you should both put some childcare in place to take the weight off his shoulders a little however. A child minder who is happy to pick both children up a couple of days each week and do extra when you’re abroad. Possibly a weekly cleaner also. Online food shop. Someone to mow the lawn.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 13/03/2025 19:19

He was annoyed because you weren’t free to do some jobs in the house, because you had to work, during what I presume were your working hours?!?

Your travel doesn’t sound too bad, and you wfh part of the week. DH has much more travel and out of hours work than I do, but I earn double what he does. Is it annoying? Yes, but it’s just part of his job. These years of childcare and juggling are pretty short in the grand scheme of things.

loveawineloveacrisp · 13/03/2025 19:15

Sorry but to those saying just get another job which requires less travel, have any of you tried recently? It's fucking brutal out there.

napody · 13/03/2025 19:13

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/03/2025 18:56

If dh came home and said if I travel to America for one week a year and I’ll end up earning 150k a year here’s the written policy with the pay and rising scale.

Then logically I’d suck it up providing we then did the whole cleaner and such and I get a week childfree too. Also it could happen and I decide actually I still didn’t like it and so nope it’s not for me.

But ops only getting 40k expecting a whole week away plus various other overnights and for that I’d say no not even worth the effort and you could find another 40k job without the travel.

It's worth it for her. That's what matters here.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/03/2025 19:12

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 16:25

@SouthLondonMum22

I'm aghast that someone would end a marriage over a week long international work trip.

Yes,, you have to be very sure of your position in the marriage ( or maybe too sure)

napody · 13/03/2025 19:11

friendlycat · 13/03/2025 11:46

He sounds utterly exhausting and unbelievably rigid. Whether he’s had experience of a corporate role or not. Your salary contributes towards your household and your pension.

I really don’t know how you are going to get him on board with all of this as he sounds very entrenched in his views of how your job should work.

Exhausting was the word that came to my mind too. Having to explain to him every time you have to do something for work and deal with the backlash. It sounds like he thinks he's your boss and is in a weird one sided competition with your line manager! Different jobs pay different amounts. You're doing your best to progress on your path and just starting to get somewhere by the sounds of it. If he loves you he should be supportive- it's not just the money, it's your self esteem that's helped by you being able to focus on work for a bit.

If he wants to cook at 5.30 and you take over with the kids, that's a possibility surely? But he sounds like the type who'd feel hard done by either way round.

Cornflakes44 · 13/03/2025 19:04

BrollyGood · 13/03/2025 11:58

I think it depends on what he has explicitly stated he is willing to do - would he facilitate you being a SAHM?

It's very understandable that if he's bringing in enough money for the family and he needs to keep doing that to keep things afloat, he would feel that he shouldn't have to pick up childcare slack for his partner's 'feeling fulfilled' job.

If, on the other hand, he accepts your job is financially necessary then he doesn't get to dictate.

He doesn't get to dictate what happens with OPs career. She says she likes her job and can see potential to earn more money. So she gets to make that choice. He's not even doing that much more childcare. Being the higher earner doesn't buy him all the power in the relationship.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 19:00

OneAmberFinch · 13/03/2025 18:49

@SerenityNowSerenityNow , I think if it were me it would depend on knowing what was on the table. Not just a "it'll look good for the boss" but a "this will give me a chance to pitch my work to X person, who is currently recruiting for Y role which will pay £Z more than I currently get"

It's not always that straight forward because sometimes it's up to the individual to make the most of that opportunity and use it to progress.

But in my case I was told very clearly that it would be necessary to secure a promotion as experience of international travel and attendance at international conferences was an essential criteria.

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/03/2025 18:56

If dh came home and said if I travel to America for one week a year and I’ll end up earning 150k a year here’s the written policy with the pay and rising scale.

Then logically I’d suck it up providing we then did the whole cleaner and such and I get a week childfree too. Also it could happen and I decide actually I still didn’t like it and so nope it’s not for me.

But ops only getting 40k expecting a whole week away plus various other overnights and for that I’d say no not even worth the effort and you could find another 40k job without the travel.

OneAmberFinch · 13/03/2025 18:49

@SerenityNowSerenityNow , I think if it were me it would depend on knowing what was on the table. Not just a "it'll look good for the boss" but a "this will give me a chance to pitch my work to X person, who is currently recruiting for Y role which will pay £Z more than I currently get"

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 18:40

@SouthLondonMum22
So if you were my husband you'd have either told me to turn down a once in a lifetime career opportunity which had resulted in me doubling my salary, getting a PhD funded and an opportunity to visit countries I'd never been to before....which in turn has meant my DH and DS have visited these countries as they sometimes travel with me.
Or you'd have divorced me?
All for the sake of a week of solo childcare once or twice a year?

Let's hope you never need your partner to compromise for you!

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 18:15

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 17:02

I made it clear before marriage and kids. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Of course, it is different if OP’s DH agreed to it and is now going back on it.

But people change!
When I got married I had no intention of ever travelling internationally but out of the blue an amazing career opportunity came my way. It was completely unexpected and had he asked me when we go married if I'd have ever seen myself doing that job I would have said no. But unexpectedly I was approached to do this job.
A year into the job I was asked to go to China for a week. It was made clear to me that it would help my career, and it has. My salary has doubled and my career is likely to continue to continue to grow.

Thankfully my husband understands that people grow and situations change.

My ex husband wouldn't have been so supportive, one of the reasons he's an ex.

I can understand someone having an issue with regular travel but the OP is talking about one week. That's nothing to make a drama out of.

and people don’t just have to go along with it if they’ve made it clear it wouldn’t work for them.

It can also quickly become more and more regular and then the other person would just be expected to go along with it.

Not something I’d be willing to do.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/03/2025 17:38

Personally I'd put up with a few weeks a year. It was when mine was working away more often than not that it didn't work. There simply weren't enough hours in the weekend for DH to make up for what he wasn't able to do during the week and resentment set in. The odd week is different.

UndermyShoeJoe · 13/03/2025 17:35

I think your dh has a point that for the pay your company is expecting way too much. I will also assume his watched you struggle to make progress and now sees this company as likely stringing you along a bit and tossing you the odd wonky carrot. Rather than going and getting what your worth.

Has he worded it right? No but he has valid points underneath it all.

Though if dh suddenly came home and announced a week travel for work when that was never the previous Id be telling him to make sure he packed all his clothes personally because I didn’t sign up for a partner working away for days at a time leading to weeks at a time. Then he could have the children for an entire week the following as it would now be 50/50 parenting.

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