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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

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Ohnobackagain · 14/03/2025 09:32

@hesnotthewindbeneathmywings he sounds jealous, if I’m honest, and your name is brilliant. I’d be maybe working out who does what - what you have said suggests you both pull your weight but be interesting to have it written down in black and white (see if there ARE deficiencies). Don’t change job unless YOU want to - his complaints don’t seem realistic to me.

Donttellempike · 14/03/2025 09:12

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:10

I'm with your DH on this. Your salary is too low to be doing all that. You're expecting him to be the higher earner whilst also doing nearly all the childcare. I'd leave your current job and find employment elsewhere.

Are you the husband? Absolute nonsense obviously

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 09:09

@Unpopularopi so one MN thread is representative of all women on business trips?

Funnily enough, I manage to not cheat on my husband whether I'm at home or on a works trip.

It will probably blow your mind to know that I work in a fairly male dominated profession and my husband works with mainly women.
It's no big deal 🤷🏼‍♀️

NaomhPadraigin · 14/03/2025 09:09

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That was a man though.

My husband always has sex with another man on business trips, it's just what happens isn't it?
Surely you do too @unpopularopi?

(In unpop's World!)

Unpopularopi · 14/03/2025 09:06

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SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 09:05

honestly only weak men tolerate their wife spending more hours with other men than them

Look Andrew Tate has arrived 🙌

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 09:03

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Hahaha

Go on, tell us, what does happen on business trips 😂😂 perhaps I'm doing them wrong?

Mirabai · 14/03/2025 09:01

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Yeah you don’t actually have a wife though and probably never will.

lechatnoir · 14/03/2025 08:59

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well don't you sound a catch 😂.

"I don't let her...." "no way would I tolerate..." You do realise this is your wife not your child you're talking about?

lechatnoir · 14/03/2025 08:50

I'm also staggered how many women a suggesting her little job earning a mere £40k (in my dreams!) can't possibly be as stressful as her DH's because of her salary. How on earth can you possibly know this about her job based purely on salary. And this is of course exactly what her DH thinks. Plus suggestions she gives up a career she loves and wants to continue to support her DH and family.

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dottiedodah · 14/03/2025 08:19

I can't believe posters saying buy in help or they see his point .which is what exactly. My friends dh took paid hols to care for their dc while she went to US for a holiday to see her cousin ffs! Managed fine .simply not on board with equality

arethereanyleftatall · 14/03/2025 07:55

@DBD1975you are viewing it only from a practical point of view, and as if the dh views the op as his equal, and thus has the capacity to have a respectful discussion about how to solve this to keep them both happy. Of course there are very easy ways to solve this given the family income. The point is the husband doesn’t care, he doesn’t care about the ops happiness, just about what she can do to keep his life easiest. That is what the op needs to protect herself for by keeping her job, not what he does, but his character. Working for him would be an absolutely terrible idea given that he already views her as his staff.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 07:47

Why don't you quit your Job and work in your husband's business for now.

Because she enjoys her job!

Once the kids are older you can go back to pursuing your dream job but for now it just isn't worth the stress.

It's not always that easy. Some sectors aren't very forgiving of a lengthy career break.

Working full time with children is very difficult and having a job with the demands of travelling away is crazy on the salary you are earning.

Yet lots of people manage to do it 🤷🏼‍♀️
Her life would be less stressful if her husband stopped making her feel guilty for just doing her job and for 'only' earning £40k.
Only in MN world is that salary considered unreasonable.
Meanwhile in the real world being asked to do a relatively small amount of travel for that salary is not an outrageous request.

Spacehop · 14/03/2025 07:43

It's not just the DH that has a say, the OP does too. He doesn't get to dictate. It should be a negotiation. And £40k is not a hobby job. Especially as the OP is climbing the career ladder and may well earn more in future.

OP the same people that are saying defer to your husband now would also blame you further down the line if he left you and you were without a salary, career path or pension. Seriously we have to protect our own futures and he has to pick up the odd bit of childcare. If you want to compromise batch cook on busy weeks so you are just heating up food and can help with the kids from 5.30 but don't compromise your career.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 07:39

To be fair, I think I would feel differently if both of us would be travelling internationally for work for a week+ at a time. It would feel more equal to me.

I think it can become an issue when it is only one person who ends up going solo with the kids for a week at a time that it can become an issue. Especially if going into it, the one with the kids was already not keen on the idea.

I can see why people would become resentful if their partner just swans off on a trip with no thought of the impact it will have on the person at home.

We've always been quite mindful of doing what we can to make it easier for the parent at home. For example, DH has arranged for his parents to have DS for a couple of nights while he's away and has arranged for our friends to do the school pick up on the days that he usually does it so it's not too disruptive to my working week.
I have been annoyed if he'd just gone and left all the arrangements to me!

DBD1975 · 14/03/2025 01:24

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:35

It is imperative that you keep your job op.

You will need it. I'm a bit older than you are I'm sure, and I can say with near 💯 certainty that one day for you the rose tints will fall from your face and you will see him for who he is. When that happens, you will need this job.

Which is a successful business man, earning a very high income who is heavily invested in home life, domestic duties and child care. The stress of running your own business would far out way the stresses of any 40K a year job in the corporate world.

DBD1975 · 14/03/2025 01:03

What do you and your DH do with all this money? You are both sacrificing your health, well being, peace of mind and happiness for what? Your poor kids living in a house with all that tension. What are you doing it all for and that question is for both of you
Why don't you quit your Job and work in your husband's business for now. Once the kids are older you can go back to pursuing your dream job but for now it just isn't worth the stress. Working full time with children is very difficult and having a job with the demands of travelling away is crazy on the salary you are earning.

MakeOrBake · 14/03/2025 01:00

I think he's being completely unreasonable. You clearly contribute massively to home life and childcare, even blocking time in your calendar to facilitate child-related stuff. And your salary contribution is decent. He is not left to do everything by any stretch of the imagination.

In our household, I have the more flexible employer in general. (I also have way more stress and way more responsibility.) I can start late to facilitate school drop off, wfh 2-3 days per week to facilitate pick ups, make time for doctor /dentist/ orthodontist in the middle of the day as long as I have notice to block time. I earned less for about 15 years and now that my salary has caught up (now slightly more than his), I realise how much I was influenced by my perception of 'importance' to take on extra household and child care responsibility. That was wrong because it meant DH had no clue how much invisible work I do.

DH gets away with swanning off to work at 8 and getting back at 5.45. He rarely thinks about who's where, or what the dinner plans are. He is often oblivious to the long, long list of responsibilities I have on top of my job. I often think it would be better if we both had inflexible jobs. But it does help with balance that I'm sometimes too busy to be flexible because he has to step up to the plate and figure shit out.

Personally, I think travel is a great way to highlight the inequality women live with. I travel for a week about twice/thrice a year (usually leaving Sunday morning) and it's just the wake up call he needs to be aware of how much I facilitate his life.

The question is, if he travelled for a week would it highlight inequalities in the other direction? Or would it reinforce the amount you contribute to the running of the household?

When my DH travels for work, I just get on with it. When I travel, I end up organising shit for him. I need to stop doing that.

DBD1975 · 14/03/2025 00:55

Get an au pair to look after the children. It is easily affordable given your joint income. I can see why there are stresses on both sides. Did you talk to your husband before you took the promotion to discuss what it would mean in terms of you being away?
I can see why your DH feels put upon.
Only you can decide if it is worth all of the stress. I would hate to have a job which meant staying away from home, my DP and my kids, I can imagine nothing worse as they are my priority.

SouthLondonMum22 · 14/03/2025 00:07

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:59

Agreeing to overnights/a few nights away feels like the compromise to me..

It depends where you're being asked to travel! I try to limit my trips to a week but I tend to travel to Asia so less than a week is difficult. I once did 4 nights in Hong Kong but the travel time meant I was away 6 nights - it was a killer!

My DH is currently in Australia and will be away for 13 nights. A week would be impossible.

To be fair, I think I would feel differently if both of us would be travelling internationally for work for a week+ at a time. It would feel more equal to me.

I think it can become an issue when it is only one person who ends up going solo with the kids for a week at a time that it can become an issue. Especially if going into it, the one with the kids was already not keen on the idea.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:59

Agreeing to overnights/a few nights away feels like the compromise to me..

It depends where you're being asked to travel! I try to limit my trips to a week but I tend to travel to Asia so less than a week is difficult. I once did 4 nights in Hong Kong but the travel time meant I was away 6 nights - it was a killer!

My DH is currently in Australia and will be away for 13 nights. A week would be impossible.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 21:49

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:45

..It can very quickly become more exessive or once a year which would probably be my absolute limit if I could be pursuaded by an outstanding pay rise could suddenly become 2-3 times a year.

Like I say, it's very job specific. You can't make sweeping generalisations.
My team know that international travel will be beneficial in their future career development and its a organisational KPI to increase the number of staff with international experience.
But I have staff who have never travelled.

I've done my specific job for 4 years and the amount of travel has remained static.

and then I'd feel like I'd just have to get on with it and it would feel unfair to me so that is a reason why I've always made it clear that it's a dealbreaker for me.

That's why I mentioned compromise earlier.
Both me and DH are supportive of each other's careers so we're willing to put up with the occasional inconvenience of a work trips.

It wouldn't feel like a compromise to me. Though I suppose, like you said, it would depend on if it really would remain static.

Agreeing to overnights/a few nights away feels like the compromise to me.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 21:45

..It can very quickly become more exessive or once a year which would probably be my absolute limit if I could be pursuaded by an outstanding pay rise could suddenly become 2-3 times a year.

Like I say, it's very job specific. You can't make sweeping generalisations.
My team know that international travel will be beneficial in their future career development and its a organisational KPI to increase the number of staff with international experience.
But I have staff who have never travelled.

I've done my specific job for 4 years and the amount of travel has remained static.

and then I'd feel like I'd just have to get on with it and it would feel unfair to me so that is a reason why I've always made it clear that it's a dealbreaker for me.

That's why I mentioned compromise earlier.
Both me and DH are supportive of each other's careers so we're willing to put up with the occasional inconvenience of a work trips.

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 21:23

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 20:38

I imagine if we had family abroad, we'd all go and make a family holiday out of it because we'd have to consider annual leave.

We've done that, DH has taken DS without me and he's gone on his own.

I even managed to tie in one of my work trips with a visit which made it more affordable!

It wouldn't just be a one week works trip though, would it? With more progress would likely come more work trips, possibly even more frequently and that isn't what I would ever want.

Depends on the job I guess. I specifically have an international job but only need to travel 2/3 times a year at most.
Members of my team might do one trip a year or even every two years.

It's not always excessive.

It can very quickly become more exessive or once a year which would probably be my absolute limit if I could be pursuaded by an outstanding pay rise could suddenly become 2-3 times a year.

and then I'd feel like I'd just have to get on with it and it would feel unfair to me so that is a reason why I've always made it clear that it's a dealbreaker for me.

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