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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 17:20

Especially working out what support her husband gets when she goes away for the week.

It's a week. Not a year 🙄

I'd love to know how many men think about what support is needed at home when they work away.

Missj25 · 16/03/2025 16:35

ChateauMargaux says it’s best 👌

ThisSunnySheep · 16/03/2025 16:32

I'm on your side Absolutely.. But why is ok for you to assume the other person ie a mans going to be the bread winner ? Luckily me and my wife are equal.. I work because i want to.. don't allow him or anyone make feel like giving up your job.. But remember equality means same for both. What if i didn't want to work ?? As it happens 9 or so months ago woke up on the change just said glad to be alive. Although it has been challenging for me and my wife.. It's not just a woman thing .
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MaryGreenhill · 16/03/2025 16:28

I don't think your DH is a misogynist OP. I think he wants a better home life for you all

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 16:19

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 11:54

No, what I am saying is if I had a husband who's earning enough for the family, I can be more selective in choosing my employer and in a better position to negotiate working conditions to suit my lifestyle. Or just by virtue of having kids, slow down for a couple of years of corporate climbing to spend time with the kids and have them as priority.

She loves her job, she is excelling in the role and is progressing. She's said the salary is average for this type of role.
Why should she change jobs or step back?

It sounds like the husband already supports her by doing majority of the pick ups. Just because he is self employed doesn't mean it's easy for him to plan his days around the pick ups either. What he's saying is the additional travel is too much.

Her husband is being a parent. He does marginally more pick ups because his job is more flexible. That's how it works in most families. It sounds like she more than pulls her weight in other ways.

He's been asked to solo parent for one week. That's all.

Any gender being left to solo parent is not ideal, especially when it's not like the family is depending on the money. Don't compare to families who need the money and needs to make this sacrifice.

No it's not ideal but that's life. The money is a red herring here. The fact is she loves her job. They might not need the money but working isn't always just about the salary.

I guess to me I appreciate my career but at the end of the day it's a job that pays the bills. If I don't have to pay the bills, then I have a lot of other options and interests and pursue a better job to fit my lifestyle. If the job is as important to me regardless of pay and part of my identity, that has to be discussed before having kids of what that would look like with the travel requirements. Especially working out what support her husband gets when she goes away for the week. I enjoyed travelling for work before kids but now prioritising work flexibly to maximise family time and will decline roles that doesn't suit for this period in my life when kids are young.

I have female colleagues who are the default parent and it's tough. Everytime there's a call from daycare, they always have to drop what they are doing because their partner's job is "not as flexible". They are also the ones loaded with the responsibility to rush through their day juggling drop offs while their partners gets to go along with their jobs like normal.

That's why I stress regardless of gender, it's good to consider the partner's mental load.

Marosanne · 16/03/2025 16:18

You DEFINITELY do not want to give up your independence and become a SAHM for this nasty man. Please don't give him any more control than he already has.

askmenow · 16/03/2025 12:23

Crucially you need to hang onto a job you love for the sake of a "backstop" just in case. Don't make yourself vulnerable, we hear too much of it on here.

Don't allow yourself to become a person dependent on your OH's earnings. Future proof yourself. And the only way to do that is to forge ahead now and take the rough with the smooth.
Imagine he were to fall ill/incapactitated or suchlike where he couldn't be the main earner so discuss with him some wrap around childcare/ nanny.

Try to have a fallback plan given you have the funds to cope with that atm. Many dont.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 11:54

No, what I am saying is if I had a husband who's earning enough for the family, I can be more selective in choosing my employer and in a better position to negotiate working conditions to suit my lifestyle. Or just by virtue of having kids, slow down for a couple of years of corporate climbing to spend time with the kids and have them as priority.

She loves her job, she is excelling in the role and is progressing. She's said the salary is average for this type of role.
Why should she change jobs or step back?

It sounds like the husband already supports her by doing majority of the pick ups. Just because he is self employed doesn't mean it's easy for him to plan his days around the pick ups either. What he's saying is the additional travel is too much.

Her husband is being a parent. He does marginally more pick ups because his job is more flexible. That's how it works in most families. It sounds like she more than pulls her weight in other ways.

He's been asked to solo parent for one week. That's all.

Any gender being left to solo parent is not ideal, especially when it's not like the family is depending on the money. Don't compare to families who need the money and needs to make this sacrifice.

No it's not ideal but that's life. The money is a red herring here. The fact is she loves her job. They might not need the money but working isn't always just about the salary.

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 11:30

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 09:40

But in this situation they are not relying on her pay to live off. Her husband earns more by far from what OP describes. So she is in a position where she can be more selective in what job she does compared to families depending on that salary to live. By choice, she is choosing a career that is not paid exceptionally well that involves a lot of travelling and defaulting her husband who's the main breadwinner to do solo parenting.

She enjoys her job, when you're suggesting she be more selective what you're actually saying is she needs to prioritise salary over enjoyment and job satisfaction.
Not all sectors pay six figure salaries and £40k is a pretty decent wage. Lots of jobs paying that amount include travel.

And why does being the higher earner mean you shouldn't be expected to do some solo parenting every once in while? He's still a parent no matter how much he earns.

No, what I am saying is if I had a husband who's earning enough for the family, I can be more selective in choosing my employer and in a better position to negotiate working conditions to suit my lifestyle. Or just by virtue of having kids, slow down for a couple of years of corporate climbing to spend time with the kids and have them as priority.

It sounds like the husband already supports her by doing majority of the pick ups. Just because he is self employed doesn't mean it's easy for him to plan his days around the pick ups either. What he's saying is the additional travel is too much.

Any gender being left to solo parent is not ideal, especially when it's not like the family is depending on the money. Don't compare to families who need the money and needs to make this sacrifice.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 09:40

But in this situation they are not relying on her pay to live off. Her husband earns more by far from what OP describes. So she is in a position where she can be more selective in what job she does compared to families depending on that salary to live. By choice, she is choosing a career that is not paid exceptionally well that involves a lot of travelling and defaulting her husband who's the main breadwinner to do solo parenting.

She enjoys her job, when you're suggesting she be more selective what you're actually saying is she needs to prioritise salary over enjoyment and job satisfaction.
Not all sectors pay six figure salaries and £40k is a pretty decent wage. Lots of jobs paying that amount include travel.

And why does being the higher earner mean you shouldn't be expected to do some solo parenting every once in while? He's still a parent no matter how much he earns.

Mumlaplomb · 16/03/2025 08:03

I think when you have kids both parents have to compromise for the family. Certainly in my marriage we have both made sacrifices, I have sat at middle management so I can do the pick ups from after school club as my husband works shifts. My husband hasn’t gone for a promotion as it means working nights again which doesn’t work in a house with younger kids.
To me, as I’ve said before, I think your employer is asking too much for your salary. I think you could relatively easily find a job with less demands on your family time for that salary and your husband is right there.

WhiteJasmin · 16/03/2025 02:35

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 01:35

I would only work your sort of schedule etc for a minimum of £100k.

Meanwhile in the real world...... 🙄

But in this situation they are not relying on her pay to live off. Her husband earns more by far from what OP describes. So she is in a position where she can be more selective in what job she does compared to families depending on that salary to live. By choice, she is choosing a career that is not paid exceptionally well that involves a lot of travelling and defaulting her husband who's the main breadwinner to do solo parenting.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 16/03/2025 01:35

I would only work your sort of schedule etc for a minimum of £100k.

Meanwhile in the real world...... 🙄

OhamIreally · 16/03/2025 01:07

“She was cured of men” I love this phrase!
A 40k job will yield such benefits: self esteem, a pension, involvement in the wider world, being a good role model for children.
You have one life, it’s not fair to insist that the woman always sacrifices her selfhood when the man doesn’t have to.

lechatnoir · 15/03/2025 21:25

Such a classic Mumsnet comment “I wouldn’t do this for less than £100k” Grin Honestly @ConkerGamemost people work long hours for considerably less money - yes including weekends and unpaid overtime, evenings even time away.

I’m in Cardiff for 2 days this month, working 2 Sunday’s and then up to Leeds for 3 days. I earn £30k & really not that unusual for a charity. Fuck me our CEO doesn’t even earn £100k and he works bloody hard and has held very senior corporate roles in the past.

ConkerGame · 15/03/2025 21:05

Eesh sorry but I can see his point a bit. To my mind you simply don’t earn enough to give away so much of your freedom to your employer. Time is money after all. I would only work your sort of schedule etc for a minimum of £100k. At your salary I wouldn’t be accepting weekends away with work, short notice meeting changes etc, unless I was very junior in my twenties and knew I’d earn more money and freedom soon with promotions.

I would be annoyed in your DH’s position too tbh. I earn more than DH and I expect him to drop work stuff/push back on it more than me as ultimately it’s my salary that’s keeping us afloat. I also push back as much as poss in my own role too though - I just don’t think anyone should be bowing down unnecessarily to their employer.

Skodacool · 15/03/2025 20:57

Springadorable · 13/03/2025 12:26

Is it that he feels that you're prioritising your work above everything without acknowledging it? When you say you're on a call so can't get the kids and he'll have to do it even though he's also in the middle of something, it does sound a bit like you're dictating how things happen. I can also see what he means about coming in and disappearing to cook dinner - in our house that is by far the easier job if it's that or look after wild feral evening kids. Can you discuss which jobs he feels he needs specific change with? Like if he cook and you do the kids in the evening?

I agree you can't find his dream version of your job. But I can also see why, if he is the high earner and still having to tiptoe around your meetings which seem to get moved randomly that as well as doing most of the school runs and after school childcare he's a bit pissed off. From an output viewpoint, you're putting in a lot of effort for not much financial or time reward.

To repeat someone else’s response, if the jobs were reversed OP would be the one having to do all the stuff DH is complaining about.

WhiteJasmin · 15/03/2025 19:47

Might be a differing view but personally wouldn't get a job that takes me away from kids when they are young. If career is such a big deal, then should have thought about that before having kids to agree on a plan. This doesn't matter on the gender, would be the same if the husband takes on a job requiring travelling. It's not fair for a spouse to be the default parent and the income it brings logically doesn't make sense for the inconvenience.

Slidingthrulife · 15/03/2025 19:25

Goodness me - you are so negative in what you say yet you bring so so much. You are almost justifying what you do which you clearly don’t need to.

This is not an equal partnership on any level

Molstraat · 15/03/2025 16:33

Themaghag · 15/03/2025 15:45

Sadly, although the majority of men want, or indeed expect, their wives to work and preferably earn a lot of money for doing so, your DH is simply articulating the commonly held male view that wives should also do/organise the majority of childcare and domestic labour too. Heaven forfend that any man should ever be mildly inconvenienced by his wife's employment! I certainly wouldn't capitulate to this sort of nonsense or pander to him in any way whatsover. Your home and your children are a joint responsibility as he will rapidly discover if you ever divorce. And I'd point out that divorce is becoming more and more of a reality every time he whines about having to parent his own children or shoulder his share of the domestic load. Under no circumstances should you ever jeopardise your career prospects on his say so.

So agree with this.
Most men cannot be inconvenienced in any way.
My friends sister was with one such prick.
His mask was maintained all the way while they built a lovely home on a site gifted to them by her parents.
Once the house was built he became skittish about the wedding, wanting the house finished fully.
She very very accidentally became pregnant with twins and wouldn't terminate.
The real him then emerged.

Childcare was on her completely as his job was so important and yet she was expected to fully pay half of everything and actually paid more as he deemed anything but the bare minimum for the children to be wasteful.
My friend and her parents were so sad to see her treated so poorly by such a selfish man for years. Her parents and my friend did so much to support her as he was always so busy with work.

He thought he was such a prize and even his family were embarrassed by his refusal to marry her.
When the twins turned six her godfather died and much to the stunned surprise of her family she was left a house and 750k.
Her worm partner couldn't conceal his joy and plans for it, quickly talking weddings etc.
Thanks be to god she had more cop on than to listen to handand realised this was her way out.

A fxxkup at the original signing of the site over to her meant it had not been completed properly and the site remained in her parents name.

He hadn't been half as cute as he thought he had and they forced the sale of the house over to her.
He got half of what he had paid and a modest return.
The alternative was him wasting fees on solicitors to fight them.
He begged and pleaded with her to reconsider for the children but considering he had never once done a single drop off for them, this held no weight.
The girls are late teens now and have had a great childhood.
His family have always been kind, he really was an embarrassment to them.
She was cured of men and is very very comfortably off and isn't interested in marriage.
She has told my friend that such was the extent that he duped her, she would never risk another relationship and prefers singledom.

Themaghag · 15/03/2025 15:45

Sadly, although the majority of men want, or indeed expect, their wives to work and preferably earn a lot of money for doing so, your DH is simply articulating the commonly held male view that wives should also do/organise the majority of childcare and domestic labour too. Heaven forfend that any man should ever be mildly inconvenienced by his wife's employment! I certainly wouldn't capitulate to this sort of nonsense or pander to him in any way whatsover. Your home and your children are a joint responsibility as he will rapidly discover if you ever divorce. And I'd point out that divorce is becoming more and more of a reality every time he whines about having to parent his own children or shoulder his share of the domestic load. Under no circumstances should you ever jeopardise your career prospects on his say so.

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 15/03/2025 09:18

I think YABU and so is your DH. No idea how you sort it though 🤔 😅

Pomollo · 15/03/2025 08:08

Your job seems really flexible if you can WFH and do drop offs

I work in an office my husband is self employed and like yours does alot of childcare. To compensate I pay for the wraparound care

i have to travel sometimes overseas but unlike yours my husband fully supports tis and gets that I don’t have his flexibility it’s just the nature of an office job right?

I’m sad I miss out on home life as I don’t get to wfh or do drop offs or pick ups I think your role sounds like you can be fully involved in a way that many jobs out there don’t allow

MyTherapistSaidImAnAdult · 15/03/2025 00:29

Literally I'd love your work hours and salary.

I'm a carer and work ALL the hours day and night and earn way less than that.

And guess what? Becaise I LOVE my job... my husband (who earns 6 times as much as I do AND pays ALL the bills)... does ALL the school runs. So that I can continue to do a job I value and take pride in.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 14/03/2025 22:30

Teddybear23 · 14/03/2025 19:33

I personally would not take a job that is more than 9-5 if you have children.

Why not? Plenty of men do 🤷🏼‍♀️