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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

OP posts:
wherearemypastnames · 13/03/2025 12:20

40k is above average
It may be way above average depending on area

It's quite normal for people on 40k to be expected to sometimes need to travel
Sone people don't know their luck with their jobs

Of course your husband should be proud and supporting of you rather than being a dock

WhatNoRaisins · 13/03/2025 12:20

Do you get extra for when you're away? As much as I hated DH working away he got more money and was always telling me to spend it on soft play or whatever it took to keep the kids happy while I was on my own with them.

Truetoself · 13/03/2025 12:18

He is being unreasonable jn not understanding you can't dictate your meetings and calls etc. However, unless there is career progression and your salary will increase, you need to look for a better paying role as I feel £40k is too low a salary for expecting you to be away for a week as part of work

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 13/03/2025 12:17

DH used to do this - he picked me up after work and expected me to down tools and leave when he was ready to go. Doesn’t bloody work like that! Plus moaning about him doing the pick ups/drop offs when he had our only car.

This will reduce as your kids get older and more able to look after themselves after school. It will also reduce if you stand your ground and tell him he’s being ridiculous every time. Do not apologise. It’s not your fault, your work aren’t being unreasonable, it’s a perfectly standard working arrangement. As you progress there’s likely to be more travel, more days in London and more office days. Point this out repeatedly. Do not give up work or look for a new job just over this. I find with DH that being completely unapologetic actually gets better results than if I soften things by complaining about the expectation/suggesting in any way that work is unreasonable, because if I do he says things like “you should just tell them you can’t be there”, which I’m not prepared to do.

MrsDoubtfire123 · 13/03/2025 12:16

I think your employer is taking the p* to be honest- all of what you say you do , with a lot of travel for £40k per year salary! OP, I think you need a pay rise or a different corporate job that pays more to compensate you for all that work and travel. For what you say you do , the minimum salary for your level of job you describe would be £60/£65k in corporate. Your husband and you do need to work as a team of course and I can see both sides. But your job expects a lot from you for very little remuneration and that’s what’s impacting your marriage.

comfyshoes2022 · 13/03/2025 12:11

It sort of seems like part of his issue is that he is having to make sacrifices in his work because your job is less flexible than his. (“He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.”)

If that’s the case, then I can sort of see his frustration because it means that your work and advancement is taking precedent over his, which could be annoying to begin with but could seem particularly annoying given that he earns more than you. Even though doing certain things would help your career progress, I don’t see it as completely unreasonable for your husband to ask if you might not pursue that progression so that he can also progress. Then again, this isn’t something where everything can necessarily be equal and maybe it’s more important for you to advance given your slower career start.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 13/03/2025 12:11

Hmmm my guess is that his problem with your job is just the tip of the iceberg.

He sounds like an arsehole.

youwillneverknow · 13/03/2025 12:10

He can't have it both ways. He either accommodates your work or you become a SAHM to relieve the pressure on you both.

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:10

I'm with your DH on this. Your salary is too low to be doing all that. You're expecting him to be the higher earner whilst also doing nearly all the childcare. I'd leave your current job and find employment elsewhere.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:07

Isn't the problem all rooted in the fact that he sounds like an absolute arsehole who is angry, critiques you, is a misogynist and believes he's superior?
I continue to be blown away with why so many women would rather this life than the absolute peace of being single.

its2025 · 13/03/2025 12:07

ChateauMargaux · 13/03/2025 12:02

DH... I know you don't understand it... but I am a woman, who is already at a disadvantage simply by being female, I have had two pregnancies and 2 lots of maternity leave, which have a life long impact on my career. I feel that we are equal humans and have equal rights to self fulfillment outside of our family as well as contributing, within our means, to our family life. Please do not put your foot down and demand that I compromise my career so that I can take over things at home. If you genuinely believe that you can not continue to support our family by looking after our children after school and for the very few number of days that I have to travel away with work? Then let's solve this together.. why don't you consider dropping your hours a little, you would still earn very well if you reduced your hours to 80% or even 60%.. or we could look at an after school nanny or home help which would not cost £40k per year and not have the same impact on my lifeling earning, future pension and most of all my sense of self worth. We can do this together, as a team, where everyone's needs are met, not just yours. While it might ideal that each person's work be valued equally, that is simply not the world we live in.

I think this is the perfect response.

WaterMonkey · 13/03/2025 12:06

newsateleven · 13/03/2025 12:05

He can afford a cleaner and a nanny or childcare if he wants help around the house more than you're there.

He needs to understand that it's not just about what you earn, it's your purpose and enjoyment and mental health as well.

This, absolutely. Your job isn’t simply about the money. It’s about fulfilment and empowerment. Maybe that’s precisely why he doesn’t like it.

BettyBardMacDonald · 13/03/2025 12:06

Don't sacrifice your independence to pacify him.

newsateleven · 13/03/2025 12:05

He can afford a cleaner and a nanny or childcare if he wants help around the house more than you're there.

He needs to understand that it's not just about what you earn, it's your purpose and enjoyment and mental health as well.

Snorlaxo · 13/03/2025 12:03

You need to keep your job more than ever.
If you split and he asks for 50/50 then you need to earn as much as you can as there would be no maintenance and you’d have to buy in childcare.

As pp said I suspect that he’s resentful that he’s doing 50% of the childcare while being the breadwinner and thinks that you as the woman should be doing most of the childcare. You are doing plenty of the childcare btw- he’s treating you like a crap mum who is rarely home when you’re doing perfectly normal stuff like dinner. I don’t think it’s because he doesn’t understand corporate work. He has kids so will be full aware that you have to drop them off at school at a fixed time and it’s not negotiable in the same way that doctor’s appointments are not flexible.

Your work hours aren’t excessive. Going on the odd overnight trip and long day into London isn’t unusual or excessive- millions of dads will be doing that every day and 99.99% of people will treat it as normal and something to suck up for the paycheck. He’s being a dick treating you as if your business trip overseas is a glorified jolly. He should know you well enough that you haven’t booked a week of spa treatments and shopping and that you’re not senior enough to book that kind of trip anyway 😉

Does he think that other couples are splitting every aspect of childcare down the middle or something ? Most will be doing what fits with their routine eg someone who starts works early will do pick ups and dinner while the other does morning routine and drop offs.

Maray1967 · 13/03/2025 12:03

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:00

He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'.

Is he a bit thick? Or just a plain old misogynist?

This! Is he so thick that he doesn’t know that plenty of men have to work away at times?

If he knows that, then his issue is that the woman should not ever work away. Bollocks to that. I took students on weeklong field trips for years in a row. Part of the job - and DH stepped up. When DC were in nursery I booked the extra days. When in school I booked in extra afterschool club. But he picked them up at 5 and got on with it.

ChateauMargaux · 13/03/2025 12:02

DH... I know you don't understand it... but I am a woman, who is already at a disadvantage simply by being female, I have had two pregnancies and 2 lots of maternity leave, which have a life long impact on my career. I feel that we are equal humans and have equal rights to self fulfillment outside of our family as well as contributing, within our means, to our family life. Please do not put your foot down and demand that I compromise my career so that I can take over things at home. If you genuinely believe that you can not continue to support our family by looking after our children after school and for the very few number of days that I have to travel away with work? Then let's solve this together.. why don't you consider dropping your hours a little, you would still earn very well if you reduced your hours to 80% or even 60%.. or we could look at an after school nanny or home help which would not cost £40k per year and not have the same impact on my lifeling earning, future pension and most of all my sense of self worth. We can do this together, as a team, where everyone's needs are met, not just yours. While it might ideal that each person's work be valued equally, that is simply not the world we live in.

WhatNoRaisins · 13/03/2025 12:02

On a practical level would he be open to paying for a cleaner when you're away to take some of the load off?

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:00

He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'.

Is he a bit thick? Or just a plain old misogynist?

BrollyGood · 13/03/2025 11:59

Just seen your update. Tough titty to him. He can't provide so you need a job. He needs to grow up.

rumred · 13/03/2025 11:59

He's a misogynist. Hth.

BrollyGood · 13/03/2025 11:58

I think it depends on what he has explicitly stated he is willing to do - would he facilitate you being a SAHM?

It's very understandable that if he's bringing in enough money for the family and he needs to keep doing that to keep things afloat, he would feel that he shouldn't have to pick up childcare slack for his partner's 'feeling fulfilled' job.

If, on the other hand, he accepts your job is financially necessary then he doesn't get to dictate.

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:58

blueshoes · 13/03/2025 11:37

Does he want you to be a SAHM or find another job?

I've asked him what his ideal solution would be and he's never been able to provide me with an answer.

He just wants me to either make more money, push back on crucial elements of my current job, or get a new job paying more and that is more convenient for him and our family.

It's not possible to only perform half my role and do the bits that suit my home life the best. Thats just an unrealistic option. So the only option would then be to quit my job and look for another.

But it's not a reasonable expectation from him that I would be able to go out and get another job with a significant salary increase that enables me to WFH every day, collect the children and be with them during my working hours.

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AndSoFinally · 13/03/2025 11:57

I can see why he's annoyed. In his eyes he does most of the work at home and earns most of the money and your job is interfering with the smooth running of the home, and is increasing his workload, while not really contributing a lot to the joint pot

I know you say you do 95% of the evening meals, but if he is having to juggle the kids, homework, finishing his own work, bath, bedtime, etc, while you stand in the kitchen in peace, again it's not really "helpful" as such. Let's face it, I'd rather be the cook in that situation. Have you offered to swap?

I think in terms of keeping your job, buying in help to cover the shortfall is probably key

Crushed23 · 13/03/2025 11:56

I let him know this morning that the important call had to been moved, and he got angry asking why it was moved, and why they could move it but I couldn't. He cannot understand the politics and seniority that dictates who can and can't move calls, the complexities of juggling so many schedules etc. He feels that I should just be able to decline attending calls and travelling because it doesn't suit me (aka him!)

Not only is he unreasonable but he sounds like a fucking idiot from this? How stupid do you have to be to not understand the basics of work etiquette.

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