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To not give up my job that DH hates?

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hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:03

First off I will say that DH does an incredible amount at home and for our family compared to many husbands. He runs his own business which allows him the flexibility to wfh most of the time so usually does the school pick ups for our youngest 4 days a week, and our oldest 3 days. We both do morning drop offs every day and I do pick ups on the days he doesn't. I have less flexibility with pick ups because I'm often on calls which is why he does most of them.

Unlike DH I work for a company. My role over the past few years required me to be the office 1 day a week (30 min commute), and occasionally be in London / elsewhere a day or two a handful of times a month. Once a quarter I would be required to travel to another office for 2 days (including overnight). DH was very disgruntled with my working arrangement and felt I wasn't around enough to support with the children.

DH works very hard and his business provides for our family very well. About triple what I bring in. Salary and progression have been a real struggle for me in my career, partly because of previously undiagnosed ADHD and very low self esteem. I'm now diagnosed and on medication. It's been life changing for me and I've excelled at work performance wise, but progression has been slow (but it is happening). Still, my salary is fairly low (roughly £40k). DH feels my salary doesn't contribute enough to our household income given my workload & travel requirements (see below). For reference I have benchmarked my role and the pay is in the range of most others I've found. Albeit at the lower end of the range. But it's not uncommon.

I've been trying very hard over the past year to progress in my role and move to a senior position. I've managed a small pay rise, and the responsibilities in my role have changed slightly over the past 6 months. I wfh 3 days a week, travel overnight to our other office 2-3 quarters rather than 4 like I'd done previously. There are less ad-hoc days I'm required to be in London meeting agencies and clients. But there are several times I year I'm required to travel for work. However this is not often, and usually not for long. So far it's just been once about 6 months ago for 3 days.

I've been incredibly anxious to tell him that I'm now required to travel abroad and be away from home for a week. This overlaps with a weekend due to flights, schedules and time zones. Not only is attendance mandatory and a critical element of my role, but I see it as an important step towards progressing in my career.

DH completely flipped out when I told him. He can't understand 'how my company expects me to leave my family for a week'. I've tried to explain to him that I am the only person with my role in the company and attending the meetings and events on this trip is a mandatory and crucial element to my role. If I said I couldn't go and had to have someone else go in my place, I'd be handing over a defining element of my job and I feel it would put me at a significant disadvantage for future career growth.

I've tried to explain that a lot of others in my team (same level as myself) are all required to come into the office 2 days a week, travel to our other office a few times a year, and occasionally travel abroad. Often more frequent than myself, but usually just for a couple nights. Many don't have families, but some do (including several mothers).

All DH does is criticise I don't support enough at home and don't earn enough. I love my job, and perform very well in it. He doesn't really understand the dynamics, politics and strains of the corporate world because he's never worked a corporate job. He can't understand that I just can't cancel a call at the drop of a hat to collect one of the children if he's in the middle of something.

AIBU in sticking with my role and my vision to progress on a career path I enjoy? It's taken me 20 years of various corporate jobs to finally find one I'm good at and that I enjoy.

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Irritateddaily · 13/03/2025 12:35

He's not unreasonable "Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job"

40k per annum for international travel spanning and entire week multiple times a year plus offices in other parts of the country monthly !! Ridiculous. He will be doing the majority of parenting in these situations + earning the majority of the families money. It's a massive burden.

However if you feel that he isn't going to be happy with whatever scenario you have then that's not an issue you can really resolve is it? He'll he miserable either way, so may as well safeguard your career instead of pacifying his disdain for your job.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:35

It is imperative that you keep your job op.

You will need it. I'm a bit older than you are I'm sure, and I can say with near 💯 certainty that one day for you the rose tints will fall from your face and you will see him for who he is. When that happens, you will need this job.

JoyousEagle · 13/03/2025 12:35

Springadorable · 13/03/2025 12:26

Is it that he feels that you're prioritising your work above everything without acknowledging it? When you say you're on a call so can't get the kids and he'll have to do it even though he's also in the middle of something, it does sound a bit like you're dictating how things happen. I can also see what he means about coming in and disappearing to cook dinner - in our house that is by far the easier job if it's that or look after wild feral evening kids. Can you discuss which jobs he feels he needs specific change with? Like if he cook and you do the kids in the evening?

I agree you can't find his dream version of your job. But I can also see why, if he is the high earner and still having to tiptoe around your meetings which seem to get moved randomly that as well as doing most of the school runs and after school childcare he's a bit pissed off. From an output viewpoint, you're putting in a lot of effort for not much financial or time reward.

I agree with this.

I’m not saying there’s nothing unreasonable about him. But I can see where he’s coming from.

Wordau · 13/03/2025 12:34

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:31

Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job

He's right, you don't.

What's your answer then?

You can't just waltz into a WFH job paying 50% more. Which is what OP's DH wants.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:33

I wouldn't be impressed as a higher earner if I then also had to look after children independently for a week.

You're kidding right? Earning a higher salary doesn't mean to get to opt out of being a parent.
My DH earns more than me but my job involves more international travel. There is no reason why he can't look after our child independently he just needs to plan. Just like I do when he travels.

BadSkiingMum · 13/03/2025 12:33

He sounds a bit demanding and lacking in imagination.

I work in a sector that is inspiring, badly paid and rife with insecurity. When it is good it is wonderful, the best workplace on earth. When it is bad it is a political nightmare. 😁

My own DH is a high earner and really struggles to get his head around the fact that my jobs can be stressful, require support with family arrangements and also be badly paid. He is now rather keen on me being a SAHM…

But, putting aside the domestic side of things, is there a grain of truth in what your DH is saying? What you describe in terms of travel etc does seem like quite a lot for a £40k role in a corporate environment. If you hadn’t named the salary I would have thought it would be at least £10-£15k higher.

We are all collectively induced to think of work travel as unproblematic and having no impact on our lives, but it does actually cut across our time and contact with loved ones in quite a significant way. So it should be rewarded appropriately.

I do travel for work sometimes but always keep my relatively modest salary in mind. So generally just for one night and I make reasonable arrangements that suit my own timetable. My sector simply doesn’t pay enough for me to get up at the crack of dawn, travel home late at night, incur expenses that won’t be covered or miss too much time with my DC.

Of course there will now be an influx of people saying that everyone should expect to be internationally mobile and that they regularly worked abroad as an admin assistant on £23k, but who is really benefiting there?

jeaux90 · 13/03/2025 12:32

Absolutely deluded if he thinks you can say no to these demands as part of corporate life.

And by the way as a lone parent I had to do a lot more travelling than that to climb the ladder in the past.

arethereanyleftatall · 13/03/2025 12:32

I will also add - because I can see the "he's an arsehole" brigade have come out in force - that I can see his point of view

You've missed the point. From a practical level yes he has a point which if he was a pleasant man, could be discussed mutually and respectfully. It is his approach to the discussion - dismissive, superior, misogynistic, angry, belittling op - that shows his character very clearly.

ThejoyofNC · 13/03/2025 12:31

Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job

He's right, you don't.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 13/03/2025 12:31

I would suggest to him that you are thinking of getting a ( qualified and experienced ) nanny to live in for the full week that you need to be away.

Wordau · 13/03/2025 12:31

In my industry both my DH and I have had to travel a lot and don't earn much more than £40k. Certainly we were travelling when we didn't earn that!

Your DH sounds unrealistic. Presumably your industry isn't hugely well paid. I saw a board level job advertised paying £33k last week.

Presumably you knew when you took the job that it involved travel and discussed this with him?

Loads of jobs would be in office every day. Hybrid roles are becoming rarer. You've actually got a pretty good deal I think.

I think you should be using after school care for your DC as you shouldn't have the kids at home during working hours if it disrupts your work. Is that an option?

SouthLondonMum22 · 13/03/2025 12:30

I wouldn't be impressed as a higher earner if I then also had to look after children independently for a week.

I'd expect a higher salary involving international travel or a new job with a lower salary but no travelling.

AirborneElephant · 13/03/2025 12:30

I think he’s being completely unreasonable, and you definitely shouldn’t give up a career you enjoy just to make his life a little easier for a couple of years. your job provides satisfaction, independence and self confidence, as well as a decent financial contribution. You deserve to keep that, don’t let him convince you otherwise.

Having said that, is there anything you can do to make things easier for that week away? How old are the children.? Can they stay with a friend/family? Can you arrange for a local teenager to bring them home and sit with them for an hour or two after school?

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 13/03/2025 12:30

TBH £40k is not a lot for a role that requires international travel for a week.

Where I work staff will earn around that salary and will have to travel regularly. Earning £40k does not mean you are poorly paid.

Mnetcurious · 13/03/2025 12:27

“all DH does is criticise I don’t support enough at home and don’t earn enough”

don’t support enough vs don’t earn enough- usually doing one means you can’t do the other- earning more often goes hand in hand with working more, especially when you’re trying to make your way up the career ladder. You can’t do both!

I’m sure if he needed to go away for work then he’d just do it and not expect any complaints. He wants you to support the family but he is unwilling to support you and your career.

Ceramiq · 13/03/2025 12:27

TBH £40k is not a lot for a role that requires international travel for a week. I am forever reminding my DH (who runs a company) that he mustn't expect poorly paid female employees to have domestic back up at the drop of a hat (sometimes he moans that they don't want to come in person to meetings that involve two nights away midweek at short notice).

Springadorable · 13/03/2025 12:26

Is it that he feels that you're prioritising your work above everything without acknowledging it? When you say you're on a call so can't get the kids and he'll have to do it even though he's also in the middle of something, it does sound a bit like you're dictating how things happen. I can also see what he means about coming in and disappearing to cook dinner - in our house that is by far the easier job if it's that or look after wild feral evening kids. Can you discuss which jobs he feels he needs specific change with? Like if he cook and you do the kids in the evening?

I agree you can't find his dream version of your job. But I can also see why, if he is the high earner and still having to tiptoe around your meetings which seem to get moved randomly that as well as doing most of the school runs and after school childcare he's a bit pissed off. From an output viewpoint, you're putting in a lot of effort for not much financial or time reward.

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 12:26

WhatNoRaisins · 13/03/2025 12:02

On a practical level would he be open to paying for a cleaner when you're away to take some of the load off?

We have a cleaner.

He takes one of the children to an after school activity close to the school once a week. And takes our other child to an activity 30 mins away another day when I'm in the office. On that day my mil will come over to be with the child that doesn't have an activity until I get home.

I block out time in my diary late afternoon each week take one of the children to an activity. I'm offline for roughly 25 mins while I get us to the activity and then I continue to work for an hour from the activity.

If I have advanced notice of times I need to help with the children I can block out the time. But I cannot do that at the drop of a hat. I usually need a weeks notice. If it's too short, I will tell him we need to do an after school club. He doesn't like to do this because it costs money.

Everything is about money with him. Essentially I don't earn enough to cover the inconvenience of my job. However he's said that if I made significantly more - say £60k plus then that would outweigh the inconvenience.

Thing is, in order for me to earn £60k+ in a corporate role along the lines of what I'm doing now, I'd need to commute into a London office 3-4 times a week, I couldn't help with drop offs or pick ups because of the commute, and I'd need to travel a lot more than what I'm doing now.

So while the extra money sounds good to him now, I know he'd still find issues with a new higher paying role after a few months.

He will never be satisfied Confused

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Mumlaplomb · 13/03/2025 12:26

OP I think your salary is too low for the travel you are having to do if I’m honest. Can you speak to some recruitment agents who specialise in your field and see if there are other jobs you could do for different companies for either the same money but less travel/ inconvenience, or more money? Often if we don’t move companies regularly our salaries can be well below the market level, and you did mention you aren’t progressing very quickly at your current place. Sorry OP but I have to agree with your husband in that I think your employer is taking the pee with the salary and demands combo.

YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 13/03/2025 12:26

Sounds like he's being deliberately obtuse because he just doesn't like you not being around to do all that you normally do. He's not accepting reality just because he doesn't like it.

Milly16 · 13/03/2025 12:25

Please don't back down on this. If he left you, or you wanted to leave him, you would need to be able to support yourself. Keep going - he'll manage or can get some paid help in.

youwillneverknow · 13/03/2025 12:24

I will also add - because I can see the "he's an arsehole" brigade have come out in force - that I can see his point of view. My DH also has his own business. Yes, the upside is that he has flexibility and is a high earner but the downside is it's hard to switch off, and there are huge responsibilities that come with owning a business.

I'm a SAHM, 3 young children, and we also have a cleaner, gardener etc. I had a voluntary role for a while but had to give it up as DH working hours meant it was not feasible. Would he open to you having some external help?

crushedbandicoot · 13/03/2025 12:23

hesnotthewindbeneathmywings · 13/03/2025 11:42

He's not asked me to quit exactly. But he's expecting me to do my job on my terms. Declining to take on crucial parts of my role because he sees them as an inconvenience.

There's a couple things we need doing around the house today. I mentioned to him yesterday that I had a very important call today with 15+ senior and external people to run through a project I'm working on, so couldn't help between X time and X time due to back to back calls.

I let him know this morning that the important call had to been moved, and he got angry asking why it was moved, and why they could move it but I couldn't. He cannot understand the politics and seniority that dictates who can and can't move calls, the complexities of juggling so many schedules etc. He feels that I should just be able to decline attending calls and travelling because it doesn't suit me (aka him!)

He sounds a bit thick tbh. Sorry.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/03/2025 12:22

£40k is a pretty good contribution to your household finances. Your DH is a misogynistic twat who doesn't understand how being employed in a specified role with duties and responsibilities works. He just wants to control you. He thinks that he is the boss and doesn't like that you have another boss in work that is more important than him.

AtrociousCircumstance · 13/03/2025 12:21

Stick to your guns OP.