if I told you I wanted to socialise with my surgeon

I love Davina but I found the surgeon a little strange when I read the article, all the talk of being an 'empath', his 'fashion model' girlfriend and these two other quotes that I've attached. Doesn't everyone's career depend on their memory? Should he be worrying more about operating on a famous person? He definitely comes across as star struck and I wouldn't want him as my surgeon with all his 'feelings' woo.

I get the impression the journalist was a bit sceptical too.

YANBU. Why is "everyone" so needy for attention these days. Makes us more reserved types look like the weird. 😄.

I think he's got stars in his eyes and has been swept away by her enthusiasm.

I’m not interested enough to read the articles. I just find her a really tedious attention seeker who should spend some time OFF social media and out of the limelight.

That’s a bit unfair, she’s probably trauma bonded to him, he’s saved her life effectively. She is always keen and very enthusiastic about stuff , he’s probably got sucked into that (am still totally appalled by him saying he is an empath though!).

whatever she’s promoting she does give her heart and soul to, challenge is she’s got form for jumping on bandwagons. No sugar/zoe etc etc. this is slightly different not a bandwagon.

She fancies him, simple as that.

You need to keep an eye on that friendship. It's completely inappropriate and could easily become abusive/toxic. I hope your Aunt doesn't have money/property that she can be persuaded to hand over.
I can remember Diana, Princess of Wales, popping up in operating theatres etc and anyone who spoke out against it was shouted down. For most ordinary adults who get sucked into fame, it doesn't go well.

It's all been signed off.

It happens. It's life, life happens and people shouldn't be punished.

I have met two medical professionals in my life who were brilliant and after long courses of treatment I did say I wish we had met under different circumstances and had just been friends, both women like myself. I bought them both gifts and I look back and hope they are doing well.

@ForTealBee that is unprofessional and the therapist could be reported to their professional body.

I've met Kevin O'Neill a few times. He operated on my late partner about a decade ago (NHS - Charing Cross Hospital). My late DP had glioblastoma, which is sadly a very aggressive brain tumour with low survival rates.

I knew him as a kind and dedicated doctor, and also a pioneering one - he performed the ops when the other surgeons wouldn't, and he bought him an extra year of life and relatively good health.

They did go above and beyond, in that clinic. We had their mobile numbers. His assistant surgeon (who was training with them) called me as soon as the ops were over. They helped me so much when he deteriorated.

Brain tumours are cruel. I imagine Davina is in shock, still. Unless you have been there, don't judge. I imagine Kevin is still trying to raise more awareness - he's been chair of a charity that does so for a number of years now.

To the poster wondering if he is also an empath to his patients who aren't rich and famous - can't speak for everyone but he was really kind to us.

@LadeOde bit of an urban myth probably that Joan Crawford had some back teeth removed to emphasise her cheek bones and give that sort of ‘sunken in’ appearance.

Hmm yes. How do you get through the day if you are an “empath” you’d be too sad all the time. Better to be cold and clinical!

he is angling for a tv career.

how can such an (academically) intelligent man use the word empath?

Having gone throughout the same surgery, for the same type of brain tumour, I wanted to kiss my bloody surgeon. Colliod cysts sit silently growing in the brain, there are no symptoms and when they go wrong, they do so without warning and most don't survive. The majority are only diagnosed during a post mortem.

So, no I'm not judging either of them, I welcome the publicity and if it saves one life due to raised awareness, that's good enough for me.

This isn't a very female friendly comment but given that she made a living out of being a role model- remember then DMc fitness DVDs etc.- I wish she would put some weight on. I worry that a bout of flu and there will be nothing of her! Eat some carbs.

@WaffleParty I agree something about him in scrubs and her in cocktail attire.. strapless in one and short dress in other seems off putting. Like there’s a hidden message /vibe there. Sexying it up bit as opposed to her in blouse and pants or more business like dress. Also the posing..

Remember, coils don't hurt, don't need pain relief....

How do.you know him quite well

Agree op it’s strange and he sounds weird and Davina just had a need to be public about her whole life

your Aunties therapist is extremely unprofessional

it’s certainly unethical as they do not have a friendship they have a therapist/client relationship your aunt does not know her therapist on a personal level

many of my ex clients wanted to stay in touch you work on this and many I would have loved to know how they are doing but I have to keep professional boundaries for their wellbeing (and mine)

i am sure the therapists supervisor will have something to say about this

I do wonder if they actually will socialise or whether it was simply said for the purposes of the interview.

On the other hand, I do kind of socialise with my former GP. He was my GP for about 20 years and then retired. Not that we are friends particularly, but we do have friends in common and so we often come across each other. It was a bit weird at first, but I'm used to it now.

You sound nice.

What is that, removal of ones teeth? seriously, it seems she's lost a huge amount of weight (she was already slim before) i think it might be the something to do with her condition/treatment.

Totally agree OP. I have seen this on numerous occasions with those in the public eye becoming @friends for life" with midwives who have delivered their children. So, so inappropriate. I honestly don't know how they get away with it. I know for a fact of o started socialising with payments my employer and my regulator would be all over it!

She’s almost 60. (And looks amazing.)

Honestly, I suspect it hasn't. Either that or they are in a highly dubious practice. Massive professional ethics issue and totally inappropriate