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Can School Extend Easter?

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EasterEvenLonger · 12/03/2025 18:44

My kid’s school had published Easter holidays as:
Mon 7 April - Tuesday 22nd April

They have written today to extend it to:
Friday 4 April - Thursday 24 April
An additional 3 working/school days

I can’t list all the reasons this is a fucking nightmare for me. Can they just announce this without any consultation and just 3 weeks notice? They haven’t taken any subsequent days off to compensate. It’s an additional 3 days.

YABU - of course they can
YANBU - no they shouldn’t be able to do this

OP posts:
toffeeappleturnip · 12/03/2025 23:45

PurpleThistle7 · 12/03/2025 23:34

I asked this and the teachers obviously have loads of their own stuff in the classroom and would need to set everything up when they get to the new room - bulletin boards and such. Also some time to learn the new tech etc. The 3 days is packing by teachers - moving company shifting - unpacking by teachers.

They must have known they were going to plan to do this way more than 3 weeks in advance though.

If parents had known in early January they could have planned their leave accordingly.

There's no consideration.

..........................

And people that say 'its crazy how parents don't think they need to look after their kids', are probably the same people that would be pee'd off if we all went on benefits till our kids were all over 13.

We work because WE HAVE TO. Working doesn't become optional the minute you get pregnant.
There aren't millions of women in their 20's thinking hmmm, should I work and never have kids, or have kids and never work . . . . .

PurpleThistle7 · 12/03/2025 23:34

toffeeappleturnip · 12/03/2025 22:59

Why can't the school be organised enough to move the furniture during the Easter Holidays and actually pay a removal company to do it instead of teachers doing it for 3 days / kids missing 3 days of learning (god forbid you took them out at similar notice for a holiday) / and working parents being completely left up the creek?

Schools really take the piss on things like this and it makes no sense when they get their knickers in such a twist about attendance / illness / being late etc.

I'm with you OP. I'd be so pee'd off. If you'd had proper notice 100's of families could have had a cheap holiday with those flight dates.

I asked this and the teachers obviously have loads of their own stuff in the classroom and would need to set everything up when they get to the new room - bulletin boards and such. Also some time to learn the new tech etc. The 3 days is packing by teachers - moving company shifting - unpacking by teachers.

ScienceFanGirl · 12/03/2025 23:10

toffeeappleturnip · 12/03/2025 22:59

Why can't the school be organised enough to move the furniture during the Easter Holidays and actually pay a removal company to do it instead of teachers doing it for 3 days / kids missing 3 days of learning (god forbid you took them out at similar notice for a holiday) / and working parents being completely left up the creek?

Schools really take the piss on things like this and it makes no sense when they get their knickers in such a twist about attendance / illness / being late etc.

I'm with you OP. I'd be so pee'd off. If you'd had proper notice 100's of families could have had a cheap holiday with those flight dates.

Schools run on teachers and support staff doing stuff they shouldn't have to rather than paying other people to do it.

toffeeappleturnip · 12/03/2025 22:59

Why can't the school be organised enough to move the furniture during the Easter Holidays and actually pay a removal company to do it instead of teachers doing it for 3 days / kids missing 3 days of learning (god forbid you took them out at similar notice for a holiday) / and working parents being completely left up the creek?

Schools really take the piss on things like this and it makes no sense when they get their knickers in such a twist about attendance / illness / being late etc.

I'm with you OP. I'd be so pee'd off. If you'd had proper notice 100's of families could have had a cheap holiday with those flight dates.

TheDevilWearPrimarni · 12/03/2025 22:56

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Because school holidays are a nightmare for working parents especially when there's no childcare available. Not everyone has relatives nearby who are available. Most families need 2 inc9mes to survive.

rosemarble · 12/03/2025 22:52

Livinggently · 12/03/2025 19:03

What do you mean you wish you could do this? You can - all you do is talk to the school. As a lone parent I find that most settings completely don’t think about the impacts their actions have on lone parent families, so you have to spell it out to them and talk to them about what they suggest you do. They might even offer a solution like keeping one classroom running for families in similar situations.

I imagine some provision will be made for certain children - in the same way as they were during covid. Not just the children of key workers, but vulnerable children. It will probably be very hard to gain a place though.

rosemarble · 12/03/2025 22:50

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Yeah....well darn those employers for requiring I work when I learn my children's school is shut at short notice.

rosemarble · 12/03/2025 22:47

I think you've got the picture now OP, but I feel your pain.
I am a lone parent. Fortunately DS2 is nearly at the end of year 11, so I'm OK when these things happen.
But there were many years when something like this would send me into a pit of despair, even if I knew that it wasn't the school's fault that they had snow, flu outbreak, flooding, power cut, no heating, busses broken etc etc.
I know school isn't childcare, but working parents do organise their working patterns and leave around their children being in school, and most can't just conjure up leave, or family or alternative childcare just like that.

I hope you find a solution. There will likely be other parents feeling the same as you.

Temporaryanonymity · 12/03/2025 22:41

In your shoes I’d be taking an extra two days off and having a cheeky term time trip.

procrastinatorgator · 12/03/2025 22:33

So the teachers should sacrifice 3 days of their holiday in order to work so it's more convenient for you?

Gertrudetheadelie · 12/03/2025 22:26

I don't know if it is the case here but things like dust can be a H&S issue with the asbestos in old schools. 200 teachers have died since the year 2000 and it can be a real issue moving does need to be done sensibly and carefully and, inconvenient as that is, that's much easier without kids around!

www.britsafe.org/safety-management/2024/asbestos-in-schools-we-need-urgent-action-now-to-protect-teachers-and-pupils

Lostworlds · 12/03/2025 22:18

drasticdonkey · 12/03/2025 21:00

don't teachers get paid for holiday? Do full time teachers get paid holiday? Or are they really unpaid for 13 weeks of year??

I think it’s really unreasonable of school.

I dislike this narrative of “it’s not childcare”. It really is. These days it is as most don’t have a housewife sitting at home waiting for their kids to return.

and yes… I often work beyond my “paid hours” and during holiday. It’s the reality of my job (private sector)

The majority of people work beyond their paid hours.

With teaching we have about 4-5 weeks paid holiday like the majority of other jobs but our holiday pay is split throughout the year so we are not getting a £0 payslip during summer holidays. Each local authority will have a calendar for teachers explaining what is a school closure day and what is a holiday.

It’s unfair that this has happened but it’s not unreasonable. At some point the school will have to do a move, the council who have approved the dates have obviously decided to tag it onto the holidays to minimise disruption to the children. Sadly they are in a lose lose situation as if they decided to do it a week before the holidays then parents would be annoyed that children are not having a straight run in school . This also depends on when the building work has been completed.

SquashedSquid · 12/03/2025 22:12

PhoneStand · 12/03/2025 19:33

Do you know about work? Have you ever had a job?

I'm a teacher 👍

PurpleThistle7 · 12/03/2025 22:10

Barrenfieldoffucks · 12/03/2025 22:07

Technically speaking all schools have to provide the same base number of education days per year. So yes, in many circumstances they would indeed owe them back.

Not if it’s an ‘extraordinary situation’ like weather closures or a school fire or a move. These just disappear as they aren’t very common.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 12/03/2025 22:07

beautyqueeen · 12/03/2025 19:19

Annoying for you but their reasons are entirely reasonable, it’s school not childcare so I don’t think you’ll be ‘owed three days back’.

Technically speaking all schools have to provide the same base number of education days per year. So yes, in many circumstances they would indeed owe them back.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/03/2025 22:06

JorgyPorgy · 12/03/2025 18:53

Sounds like they are using the move as an excuse for some extra days off! But I’m probably being cynical!

They won't be days off. It will be a lot of work for staff.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/03/2025 22:04

Myengagementring · 12/03/2025 18:46

It will be teacher training days I'm imagine which they can add on

This.

InigoJollifant · 12/03/2025 22:01

I totally sympathise OP. This would give me the utter rage.

Our school has 2 weeks half term at Whit which is supposed to be a nice cheap week to go abroad in, except if you have children in another school as well, like I do, you can’t go away but also there is no childcare available as everyone else is in school… winds me up something chronic but everyone else loves it…. until they have children in secondary school, or if they work in another school in the area. And we know about that holiday in advance!

Longma · 12/03/2025 21:56

drasticdonkey · 12/03/2025 21:00

don't teachers get paid for holiday? Do full time teachers get paid holiday? Or are they really unpaid for 13 weeks of year??

I think it’s really unreasonable of school.

I dislike this narrative of “it’s not childcare”. It really is. These days it is as most don’t have a housewife sitting at home waiting for their kids to return.

and yes… I often work beyond my “paid hours” and during holiday. It’s the reality of my job (private sector)

It's a strange system that's been explained over the years.
Teachers receive pay every month including over the holidays.
However, they receive payment for a certain number of directed time, plus something like 4-5 weeks paid holiday and bank holidays. The rest is unpaid.

Like many professions, teachers will often work outside these hours and during their paid/unpaid holidays when school is closed to children. It is pretty much impossible to not work behind directed hours as planning time within those school hours is minimal.

Longma · 12/03/2025 21:53

drasticdonkey · 12/03/2025 20:40

is it the teachers doing the moving? Can’t they do the move over the original Easter instead?

teachers always tell us how often they work over the holidays. They are always in school, planning, marking etc. in the school holidays.

So you expect staff to work unpaid in their holidays, moving the school? And still get their planning and prep done?

Also, many may well be away, or looking after their own children? And yes, whilst still prepping for next half term.

Longma · 12/03/2025 21:47

JorgyPorgy · 12/03/2025 18:53

Sounds like they are using the move as an excuse for some extra days off! But I’m probably being cynical!

Yeah, that just doesn't happen!

As if the average teacher can dictate extra days off regardless.

It appears the reason is to facilitate moving to a new build, or similar. These will have been agreed with the LEA or Academy Trust.

The teaching staff will, almost certainly, be in school during these days.

RhaenysRocks · 12/03/2025 21:40

drasticdonkey · 12/03/2025 20:40

is it the teachers doing the moving? Can’t they do the move over the original Easter instead?

teachers always tell us how often they work over the holidays. They are always in school, planning, marking etc. in the school holidays.

If your work told you to come in on dates you were not paid for to do a task that is not in your job description and would be physically draining, dirty and difficult, would you?

If your child's teacher spent the first two weeks back after Easter winging it on no planning, nothing marked and mainlining caffeine because they hadn't had a break due to coming in on unpaid leave, would you be understanding?

I'm guessing no 🙄

EasterEvenLonger · 12/03/2025 21:34

@JaynaJae bore off with the childcare comments.

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neverbeenskiing · 12/03/2025 21:32

borntobequiet · 12/03/2025 19:25

We had a move when I was a teacher, three days. I’ve never been so physically exhausted in my life, despite being (in those days) strong, fit and healthy. And then straight into teaching in new surroundings, with tech barely working and confused and unsettled kids. What fun it was.

I've been through similar and I'd be surprised if they could do it in 3 days!

I thought moving house was stressful, it was nothing compared to moving school buildings. I hope I never have to do it again. Some people are talking like the Teachers at OP's school will be on a 3 day jolly. I can't imagine anyone preferring to spend 3 days clearing out cupboards, packing boxes, filling skips, hauling furniture around, unpacking boxes and cleaning over 3 normal days with the kids in school!

PurpleThistle7 · 12/03/2025 21:31

(And my husband and I both work full time and are immigrants so have no childcare. I had to take unpaid leave when my kids' school was shut. Just unavoidable sometimes unfortunately)