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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 08:53

Some time ago I had a convo with a friend on the subject of bullying.

He had always lacked confidence and had been a victim of bullying at school and apparently had never fitted in. I never went to his school so don’t know this first hand just took his word for it. At the time he was 26, lived with his parents and desperate for friends and company. He also had no experience sexually or romantically aged 26 in relationships so was very conscious of this - he presented as a lonely man and his conversations reflected that.

We were discussing one day what would make someone more prone to being a victim of bullying generally and I said is it someone with no friends?

He said “not exactly someone with no friends”. He went on to say “someone who is unsure”.

I was a bit surprised by this - given his seeming desperation to make friends and meet people all the time I thought he’d see a ‘friendless’ state or being a loner as undesirable.

However, I actually agree with him because at times in the past when I’ve been a bit of a ‘loner’ but had more inner confidence, I’ve actually been more popular with people whereas when I’ve been clinging to the edge of groups and with no friends I’ve been less popular. Any thoughts?

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Itisbetter · 12/03/2025 09:59

oakleaffy · 12/03/2025 09:11

There will always be bullies in society unfortunately-
It’s how humans as a species are.

Even animals bully each other ( Dogs, horses) to establish dominance.

No that’s not true. It is possible to have a hierarchical society without bullying and for there to be dominant and less dominant participants. Bullying is something different and is unhealthy.

TheHistorian · 12/03/2025 09:57

In my experience assertiveness is key. Bullies like to test boundaries so the first time they say or do something mean you need to pull them up on it. If you let it go they get braver.

I was in a 'friendship' group where one of the dominant women liked to make sarcastic put downs. I didn't put her in her place and it escalated to several others joining in and became so unpleasant every time I saw them I left the group.

In hindsight I wished I had pulled her up on it but I was in a vulnerable bad place at the time. It really affected my self esteem for a long time.

I bumped into her several years later and she was all over me to meet up again. Perhaps the group had turned on her too? No thanks.

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:50

Bushmillsbabe · 12/03/2025 09:44

This is really true. My oldest gets bullied sometimes because she is smart, good at sports and quite popular. She will play with lots of different people, but sometimes gets abuse from the 'friends' she isn't playing with for 'rejecting them', sometimes it can get quite nasty. I have taught her never to be unkind first and never to start anything, but to always defend herself, and that if she gets into trouble for this then I will have her back.

Bullies are nearly always lacking in something, usually self confidence, or ability, and they try to cover this up/make themselves feel better by trying to make others feel worse. So I explain to her that what the bullies say to her is a reflection on themselves rather than a reflection on her, and she has learnt to fake a 'I don't give a f**k' attitude, that isn't how she feels as she takes everything to heart, but it does help I think.

My youngest genuinely has an 'I don't give a f**k" attitude, and she had never been bullied. The bullies want to gain something- power, a reaction, popularity. If they gain nothing they move on.

Yes they do want to gain something - agreed

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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:49

CrumpledInkBlott · 12/03/2025 09:35

I also think people see quietness in people as a weakness. When they get push back from the person who is quiet they get a shock .

Some people have never been told no and have been used to getting their own way so it comes as a shock when they are told no .

True about quiet people pushing back

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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:45

Hoppinggreen · 12/03/2025 09:33

I think being part of a "pack" helps.
I was badly bullied at Primary when my "pack" started doing things I didn't like so distanced myself, I then became the target.
At Secondary I was very much Queen Bee (sorry) and while I didn't ever get involved in bullying my group were all too close for anyone to be able to pick any of us off.
DD never found her tribe at Secondary and was bullied but DS has a very strong group and nobody has ever tried to target one of them because as a teacher once said to me "anyone who takes one of them on takes all of them on". they are a really nice group who have absorbed some boys who were isolated and teachers often encourage someone who is being bullied in their direction. There is one boy who was targetted quite a lot and while Ds isn't actually very keen on him he allows the boy to hang around on the edges of the group as it does apparently give him some protection.

Yes. In school sadly I I was part of a very weak ‘pack’

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Bushmillsbabe · 12/03/2025 09:44

LipglossAlly · 12/03/2025 09:06

I agree with the other posts with regards to what would attract the unwanted attention of a bully. I would add that there are instances where people are bullied because the bully sees in them some characteristics that they do not possess. Whether it be looks, kindness and sometimes even inner confidence.

This is really true. My oldest gets bullied sometimes because she is smart, good at sports and quite popular. She will play with lots of different people, but sometimes gets abuse from the 'friends' she isn't playing with for 'rejecting them', sometimes it can get quite nasty. I have taught her never to be unkind first and never to start anything, but to always defend herself, and that if she gets into trouble for this then I will have her back.

Bullies are nearly always lacking in something, usually self confidence, or ability, and they try to cover this up/make themselves feel better by trying to make others feel worse. So I explain to her that what the bullies say to her is a reflection on themselves rather than a reflection on her, and she has learnt to fake a 'I don't give a f**k' attitude, that isn't how she feels as she takes everything to heart, but it does help I think.

My youngest genuinely has an 'I don't give a f**k" attitude, and she had never been bullied. The bullies want to gain something- power, a reaction, popularity. If they gain nothing they move on.

CrumpledInkBlott · 12/03/2025 09:35

I also think people see quietness in people as a weakness. When they get push back from the person who is quiet they get a shock .

Some people have never been told no and have been used to getting their own way so it comes as a shock when they are told no .

Hoppinggreen · 12/03/2025 09:33

I think being part of a "pack" helps.
I was badly bullied at Primary when my "pack" started doing things I didn't like so distanced myself, I then became the target.
At Secondary I was very much Queen Bee (sorry) and while I didn't ever get involved in bullying my group were all too close for anyone to be able to pick any of us off.
DD never found her tribe at Secondary and was bullied but DS has a very strong group and nobody has ever tried to target one of them because as a teacher once said to me "anyone who takes one of them on takes all of them on". they are a really nice group who have absorbed some boys who were isolated and teachers often encourage someone who is being bullied in their direction. There is one boy who was targetted quite a lot and while Ds isn't actually very keen on him he allows the boy to hang around on the edges of the group as it does apparently give him some protection.

InvisibilityCloakActivated · 12/03/2025 09:29

Minimise your chance of being bullied by never interacting with another human.

Maximise your chance of being bullied by being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong hair colour/texture, skin colour, height, weight, eyesight, disability, ability, financial status, class, family, address, academic ability, sporting prowess, coordination, accent, name, age, sex, sexual preference, job title, fashion sense..... the list goes on!

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:27

Errors · 12/03/2025 09:25

I do think perhaps self esteem is the key. Although I can’t talk after being relentlessly bullied by one nasty girl for years in high school (very targeted)
Bullied in a work place in the same manner and have had three abusive relationships as a grown up to varying degrees. I am very distrustful of people nowadays

Totally agree about self esteem

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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:25

oakleaffy · 12/03/2025 09:01

Bullies sense “weakness” or differences in people- The best way to avoid it is to take no shit if someone starts.

( Work situation)

Socially?
No need to put up with any form of bullying.

Gosh so true

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Errors · 12/03/2025 09:25

I do think perhaps self esteem is the key. Although I can’t talk after being relentlessly bullied by one nasty girl for years in high school (very targeted)
Bullied in a work place in the same manner and have had three abusive relationships as a grown up to varying degrees. I am very distrustful of people nowadays

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:24

soundsys · 12/03/2025 09:18

For children? Not popular but if you stand up to the first bully (hitting back if needed) they tend to leave you alone after that.

As adult it's much less easy!

Very true from experience

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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:23

hookiewookie29 · 12/03/2025 09:19

This!
My daughter was bullied at secondary school. She didn't have many friends and a group of girls drew her in then proceeded to bully her. It changed her as a person.

Awful. Exact same thing happened to me

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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:22

oakleaffy · 12/03/2025 09:15

I didn’t want to bring up the 🤛 punch..

But yes, I have seen bullies stopped in their tracks when the “Victim” retaliated physically.

Sometimes it’s all bullies understand.

This was me !!

I retaliated once when someone intervened in an argument - this person was then scared of me

still I’m not really proud of getting into the initial argument in the first place - I was behaving like an arse and wish I’d been a more mature 13 year old but I had an abusive, immature mother

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hookiewookie29 · 12/03/2025 09:19

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:00

Thanks for responding been in the receiving end of it too - it sucks.

i love my own company but only felt obliged to cling to people like a limpet because my mum called me selfish for liking my own company

This!
My daughter was bullied at secondary school. She didn't have many friends and a group of girls drew her in then proceeded to bully her. It changed her as a person.

soundsys · 12/03/2025 09:18

For children? Not popular but if you stand up to the first bully (hitting back if needed) they tend to leave you alone after that.

As adult it's much less easy!

oakleaffy · 12/03/2025 09:15

Kibble29 · 12/03/2025 09:12

I agree that someone “a bit unsure” is more likely to be targeted.

It makes me think of someone lacking in confidence, a quiet voice, poor eye contact, a people pleaser, nervousness etc. Obviously those are general images in my head but I can see why someone who fits that description would find themselves a target.

I think we all like to believe that childhood is where bullying stops. That we all grow up and the bullies are remorseful while the bullied are empowered and strong, but it doesn’t really work like that. Adult bullies are the same ones who did it as kids, and I bet a lot of people bullied at work also got it at school.

As for how to avoid it, I think teaching children young how to be strong (mentally and physically), resilient and helping them gain good self esteem might reduce chances of being a target. And make sure they’ve got a good, solid punch on them. 😉

I didn’t want to bring up the 🤛 punch..

But yes, I have seen bullies stopped in their tracks when the “Victim” retaliated physically.

Sometimes it’s all bullies understand.

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:13

Thanks to everyone who’s contributed btw

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MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:12

CrumpledInkBlott · 12/03/2025 09:02

I think a lot of bullies test boundaries. If they see you don't have the confidence to push back or report them they will then bully you . Bullies rely on silence . It's best to nip things in the bud . There is a thin line between tolerance and abuse.

Often , especially at work people bully because it gets them something or it's a deflection from their shortcomings. It's best not to confront but go straight over their heads to senior management. If the bully is friends with management then it's a loss cause and look to change jobs or department.

Never tell anyone you have been bullied in the past as people will see you as an easy target to shove around .

Gosh I totally agree with this post also from experience

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Kibble29 · 12/03/2025 09:12

I agree that someone “a bit unsure” is more likely to be targeted.

It makes me think of someone lacking in confidence, a quiet voice, poor eye contact, a people pleaser, nervousness etc. Obviously those are general images in my head but I can see why someone who fits that description would find themselves a target.

I think we all like to believe that childhood is where bullying stops. That we all grow up and the bullies are remorseful while the bullied are empowered and strong, but it doesn’t really work like that. Adult bullies are the same ones who did it as kids, and I bet a lot of people bullied at work also got it at school.

As for how to avoid it, I think teaching children young how to be strong (mentally and physically), resilient and helping them gain good self esteem might reduce chances of being a target. And make sure they’ve got a good, solid punch on them. 😉

oakleaffy · 12/03/2025 09:11

Itisbetter · 12/03/2025 08:55

Making bullying unacceptable is the way to stop bullying. Victims do not draw bullies.

There will always be bullies in society unfortunately-
It’s how humans as a species are.

Even animals bully each other ( Dogs, horses) to establish dominance.

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:10

arcticpandas · 12/03/2025 09:04

If you really truly don't give a fuck about what people think it's hard to bully you. We're social animals though so it's hard to get there for most. I'm there now at 45. Not paying attention to what people think is bot the equivalent of not caring for others though. Then you're just a sociopath.

TOTALLY TOTALLY AGREE with this post!!

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NigellaAwesome · 12/03/2025 09:09

I think bullies can also target out of jealousy. I can think of several instances in my workplace where the target was confident, very capable, well liked and were relentlessly targeted by inadequate people who couldn't bear to see them do well.

<bitter voice of experience>

MarioJumbo · 12/03/2025 09:08

CynicalSunni · 12/03/2025 09:05

I was bullied already so was desperate to be part of a 'group' . As being a loner would have drawn more attention. So i accepted the lesser of two evils. 🤣

I did have to learn to be comfortable with myself and develop my own personality. Think i just followed for years to fit in. But i was quite intense too i think. Once i found a friend i latched on. But that was the result of bullying. Wasnt til i was about 15/16 i had proper friends

Yes - later on I was bullied but not for being a loner - if anything being part of the wrong group! So after that I clung to the group for security

I was older than 15-16 before I had real friends - I was 18 - so you did better than me there !

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